Author Topic: The Present B.M...... (Read 14386 times)

shank_ali · « **on:** February 08, 2009, 17:01 »

Sucks !

Graffoto · « **Reply #1 on:** February 08, 2009, 17:21 »

and you opinion is based upon???

anton9 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 08, 2009, 17:33 »

my sales have increased by a lot since the last week of Jan best ive had yet so apart from the site running a bit slow and not updating stats then I think the new best match is great

sharpshot · « **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2009, 18:28 »

It is a big improvement, my sales are much better than at the end of 2008. I still can't get a new BME there but it is nice to see I am getting closer.

vonkara · « **Reply #4 on:** February 08, 2009, 18:54 »

But... Does anyone know how it work?? Newer, download/month, views, sales, vodoo. Keyword it seem, well how that's work. The files with less keywords wins?

RT · « **Reply #5 on:** February 08, 2009, 19:05 »

That's an easy one to answer, in order to prosper under the new best match you have to make sure you're whistling (not humming) the theme tune to MASH when you upload a file.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #6 on:** February 08, 2009, 19:24 »

shank - I think you like to stir the pot. why not focus on your own work and stop opening redundant threads....

crazychristina · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2009, 19:25 »

I think that before Christmas the best match strongly favoured exclusives. Now the playing field is a bit more level, so I guess some exclusives are taking a bit of a hit (relatively).

stock shooter · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2009, 20:04 »

January sales were 4 times better for me than my December sales. My sales were steadily declining for the last six months then over night, boom best in more than a year, no new uploads.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #9 on:** February 08, 2009, 20:45 »

Quote from: stock shooter on February 08, 2009, 20:04

January sales were 4 times better for me than my December sales. My sales were steadily declining for the last six months then over night, boom best in more than a year, no new uploads.

I think many have benefited from the best match change, which is great and I certainly don't begrudge anyone sales. We all work really hard, or at least many of us, lol. I am not one of those getting sales, though I do think we cannot yet judge the best match as I doubt it has been fully implemented, if at all yet.

but, you made one very important comment -- overnight things changed. this is the kind of change/upheaval I have come to know as the iStock way. things shouldn't have such profound overnight effects on any one group of contributors. I'm not for a moment suggesting that best match/search algorithms are an easy thing, nor am I pretending to understand the processes they use to determine best match. I simply question the wisdom and for lack of a better word -- fairness-- of severely impacting sales for prolonged periods of time, whether positively or negatively for such a large number of us.

there must be a way to change things more frequently, or less radically in order to ensure that so many contributors are not left dwindling indefinitely.

m@m · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2009, 21:50 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 08, 2009, 19:24

shank - I think you like to stir the pot. why not focus on your own work and stop opening redundant threads....

Thread after thread I keep on reading this guy shank posts and they are usually all the same crap, as yecatsdoherty said "trying to stir up the pot", well, I agree, you should stick to focusing on your own work instead of brown nosing iStock and bothering other members on this forum, just because you're not allowed in theirs, probably for the same reason, being an A..!, as far as I'm concern you should also be banned out of this forum as well, so other members don't have to read anymore your redundant and annoying threads anymore...by the way, doing (or thinking you are) iStock's work or kissing A.. to them, is not going to get you any closer to being accepted back...you are what you are pal!!!

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2009, 22:42 »

^ well, in fairness to shank, I doubt the iStock powers that be like me much either. though I have not been 'banned', I am quite vocal about the changes, and the treatment of contributors. I'm pretty sure my name is mud around IS HQ these days. But I didn't join IS to make friends, I joined what I felt to be the best run company through which to sell my photographs. I'll remain exclusive only until I feel that has changed, which it may have. I'll reserve judgment until after 2.0 is fully rolled out. but I'm not impressed over the last few months.

again, GREAT company making some not so great decisions over the last year. but then again, IS is not just IS anymore, it is Getty.

caspixel · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2009, 23:05 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 08, 2009, 22:42

^ well, in fairness to shank, I doubt the iStock powers that be like me much either. though I have not been 'banned', I am quite vocal about the changes, and the treatment of contributors. I'm pretty sure my name is mud around IS HQ these days.

Do we even need to speculate on how they feel about me?

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2009, 23:41 »

^

....you gotta laugh, right? funny thing is, I really care and am really dedicated, or at least was....I used to be one of the loudest wooyayers....man I hate that word

LostOne · « **Reply #14 on:** February 09, 2009, 01:44 »

My sales are down 50% since the last few days of January

shank_ali · « **Reply #15 on:** February 09, 2009, 02:08 »

I shoot and upload every week.
The first two weeks of january were poor in regards of sales.
Then the 3rd monday in the month sales........... it lasted two whole days.Then best match CHANGED and my sales are poor.
@Mam PRESS IGNORE tyvm

anton9 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 09, 2009, 02:29 »

Ive only been on this site a couple of weeks and yet all ive witnessed so far is constant arguing in all the forums I dont get it

borg · « **Reply #17 on:** February 09, 2009, 04:35 »

Quote from: LostOne on February 09, 2009, 01:44

My sales are down 50% since the last few days of January

Same for me!

Before that sales were excellent!

fotografer · « **Reply #18 on:** February 09, 2009, 06:58 »

Seems to be that way in general at the moment. i've never known the SS forums to be so bad. I don't know if the weather and financial situation is causing people to be more bad
mooded than usual

Quote from: anton9 on February 09, 2009, 02:29

Ive only been on this site a couple of weeks and yet all ive witnessed so far is constant arguing in all the forums I dont get it

michealo · « **Reply #19 on:** February 09, 2009, 07:06 »

Quote from: anton9 on February 09, 2009, 02:29

Ive only been on this site a couple of weeks and yet all ive witnessed so far is constant arguing in all the forums I dont get it

Yep, when users get banned or close on IS they head over here to cause trouble ...

Tim Markley · « **Reply #20 on:** February 09, 2009, 07:44 »

With the new best match I find most of what sells is my older stuff. Newer stuff is not moving.

caspixel · « **Reply #21 on:** February 09, 2009, 10:55 »

Quote from: michealo on February 09, 2009, 07:06

Quote from: anton9 on February 09, 2009, 02:29
Ive only been on this site a couple of weeks and yet all ive witnessed so far is constant arguing in all the forums I dont get it

Yep, when users get banned or close on IS they head over here to cause trouble ...

Seems to me it's more of a case of not being able to criticize anything about iStock.

bittersweet · « **Reply #22 on:** February 09, 2009, 11:12 »

Quote from: caspixel on February 09, 2009, 10:55

Seems to me it's more of a case of not being able to criticize anything about iStock.

Yes, that's probably it. I wondered why I never see anything negative about them on the forums there. Thank goodness Leaf has no problem with people joining here with the sole purpose of contributing absolutely nothing but criticism about iStock.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #23 on:** February 09, 2009, 11:35 »

I have a lot to say about iStock that is really good. if I didn't, I wouldn't be investing so much time, energy and professional ambition in creating and managing my IS images. I also believe that if I'm going to criticize, it should be constructive and while offering ideas for positive change. that too however is unwelcome in the IS forums if said too frequently.

Which is fine. I absolutely agree with protecting the business. But as one fellow contributor recently pointed out to me, there is a group of core people who have been there since the beginning and who are part of the IS inner circle. and the rest of us are somewhat on the outside. and that's fine too, again, not there to make friends. but why have the illusion of an open community.

I've been on this site for close to a year, if not more. and spent much time providing advice, comments and positive views on IS. in the last few months, because of how I have been treated in response to concern about my plummeting income, I feel quite negatively. despite this, I have been uploading and working just as hard and staying out of the IS forums, unless it is to reply on some stupid fluffy thread that is of no consequence.

but those who say people do nothing but complain on here, well you're simply complaining about the complaints. sometimes people have good reason to complain. there is no outlet for our concerns and there are few answers. that kind of culture breeds discontent, and it has.

gostwyck · « **Reply #24 on:** February 09, 2009, 11:52 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 08, 2009, 20:45

I think many have benefited from the best match change, which is great and I certainly don't begrudge anyone sales. We all work really hard, or at least many of us, lol. I am not one of those getting sales, though I do think we cannot yet judge the best match as I doubt it has been fully implemented, if at all yet.

but, you made one very important comment -- overnight things changed. this is the kind of change/upheaval I have come to know as the iStock way. things shouldn't have such profound overnight effects on any one group of contributors. I'm not for a moment suggesting that best match/search algorithms are an easy thing, nor am I pretending to understand the processes they use to determine best match. I simply question the wisdom and for lack of a better word -- fairness-- of severely impacting sales for prolonged periods of time, whether positively or negatively for such a large number of us.

there must be a way to change things more frequently, or less radically in order to ensure that so many contributors are not left dwindling indefinitely.

I'd agree with most of that, especially the abrupt way that sales (i.e. exposure of images) have been turned on and off for so many.

Most of the folk who have lost out from this latest change are relatively new contributors (say less than 2-3 years) basically because their new-ish images had been artificially enhanced by the best match's favouring of new images. What is happening now is that many older but good images are actually being seen again, from being buried before, and it is simply a much more competitive environment in which to sell.

Personally I like the new best match and I'm delighted to see most of my best-sellers working for me again __ like they do on every other site. I hated seeing perfectly good images being virtually killed off in 4-6 months.

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Author Topic: The Present B.M...... (Read 14386 times)

shank_ali

Graffoto

anton9

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RT

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crazychristina

stock shooter

yecatsdoherty

m@m

yecatsdoherty

caspixel

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LostOne

shank_ali

anton9

borg

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michealo

Tim Markley

caspixel

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yecatsdoherty

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