Author Topic: Thinking about exclusive but have some EDITORIAL images at other sites... (Read 11123 times)

hroe · « **on:** March 01, 2010, 15:10 »

Just to make it simple. Apparently I am able to keep everything that is not RF images on the other agencies. Does anyone has experience this?

Anyway, the guys who became exclusive with IS in the last months, do you really see a worthwhile difference? Do you recommend the jump

Thank you.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2010, 15:11 »

"editorial" does not mean you are not offering the content as RF. You are not allowed to offer any content RF elsewhere, assuming you are talking about iStock.

hroe · « **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2010, 15:24 »

Mmmmmm.....? I am puzzled, editorial license are not considered RF license for the agencies (my images have tons of logos). They are sold under the editorial license, and you said they sell as RF? No comprendo.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2010, 15:30 »

editorial vs. commercial
RF vs. RM

example: SS sells "editorial" under an RF license.

cathyslife · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2010, 15:32 »

editorial can be sold as rights managed (RM) also

hroe · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2010, 15:49 »

And bottom line of all of that: I can't become exclusive with IS and keep the so-called editorial images on other agencies, correct?

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2010, 15:50 »

Quote from: hroe on March 01, 2010, 15:49

And bottom line of all of that: I can't become exclusive with IS and keep the so-called editorial images on other agencies, correct?

No, the bottom line is that you can't become exclusive while selling RF at other sites. Since we don't know where you are licensing your "so-called editorial images", we can't comment on your choice.

hroe · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2010, 15:53 »

Well, I am not selling them to my local newspaper, but to other agencies equivalent to IS (DT, SS)... I wouldn't bother asking if there were not the direct IS competition.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2010, 15:54 »

I give up.

KB · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2010, 15:58 »

Quote from: sjlocke on March 01, 2010, 15:54

I give up.

The question is, Sean, why do you even bother?

hroe, it's really simple: You can't have any images for sale at any micro agency, because (AFAIK) all micro agencies sell is RF. It doesn't matter if they are editorial or not, it matters simply whether they are RF or not.

If you sell RM (editorials or otherwise) at Alamy, for example, that's fine. Just no RF, anywhere.

I really wish that IS would sell editorial images, but I don't think that will ever happen.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:00 »

Quote from: KB on March 01, 2010, 15:58

The question is, Sean, why do you even bother?

It's my court ordered societal contribution

.

ap · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:01 »

Quote from: hroe on March 01, 2010, 15:53

Well, I am not selling them to my local newspaper, but to other agencies equivalent to IS (DT, SS)... I wouldn't bother asking if there were not the direct IS competition.

both ss and dt are selling editorial images with a rf licence, meaning they're sold without registering who the buyers are. so, you wouldn't be able to go exclusive with is in this case. however, if you were to sell these same editorial images at alamy with a rm licence (registering every single buyer along the way), then you're gold. by the way, alamy only sell editorials with rm licence, no ifs or buts. that's one of the differences between microstock and macrostock.

hroe · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:03 »

Gracias amigo!

lisafx · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:03 »

Quote from: KB on March 01, 2010, 15:58

hroe, it's really simple: You can't have any images for sale at any micro agency, because (AFAIK) all micro agencies sell is RF. It doesn't matter if they are editorial or not, it matters simply whether they are RF or not.

If you sell RM (editorials or otherwise) at Alamy, for example, that's fine. Just no RF, anywhere.

^^ Well said. That should clear up any confusion

Dook · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:04 »

I am getting puzzled, too. If I sell newspaper worthy editorial pictures through Reuters, what then (about IS exclusivity)?

ap · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:06 »

Quote from: Dook on March 01, 2010, 16:04

I am getting puzzled, too. If I sell newspaper worthy editorial pictures through Reuters, what then (about IS exclusivity)?

again, is reuters selling your editorial image with a rf or rm licence? that's your assignment for the day.

Dook · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:12 »

Quote from: ap on March 01, 2010, 16:06

Quote from: Dook on March 01, 2010, 16:04
I am getting puzzled, too. If I sell newspaper worthy editorial pictures through Reuters, what then (about IS exclusivity)?

again, is reuters selling your editorial image with a rf or rm licence? that's your assignment for the day.

To be honest, I do not know. But, I can not believe that IS will ask me to give up my photojournalism career to become exclusice stock photographer. I'll better ask support.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:16 »

Quote from: Dook on March 01, 2010, 16:12

To be honest, I do not know. But, I can not believe that IS will ask me to give up my photojournalism career to become exclusice stock photographer. I'll better ask support.

Your photojournalism career is irrelevant to not selling RF anywhere else if you are interested in being an iStock exclusive.

Does anyone read the details of how they are licensing their content?

ap · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:21 »

Quote from: Dook on March 01, 2010, 16:12

To be honest, I do not know. But, I can not believe that IS will ask me to give up my photojournalism career to become exclusice stock photographer. I'll better ask support.

ok, i'm pretty sure reuters is doing rm licensing since they're a major macro news supplier. you really need to find out from who you're selling your photos to how they are licensing their sales. if they don't know, neither will is.

cathyslife · « **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:28 »

Quote

I give up.

I know just how you feel.

hroe · « **Reply #20 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:43 »

Well, sorry, I wasn't getting the point. English is not my first language and I am new to stock also... Anyway thanks for all your informative answers!

mantonino · « **Reply #21 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:56 »

Quote from: sjlocke on March 01, 2010, 16:00

Quote from: KB on March 01, 2010, 15:58
The question is, Sean, why do you even bother?

It's my court ordered societal contribution .

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

love it.

Dook · « **Reply #22 on:** March 01, 2010, 16:57 »

Quote from: ap on March 01, 2010, 16:21

Quote from: Dook on March 01, 2010, 16:12

To be honest, I do not know. But, I can not believe that IS will ask me to give up my photojournalism career to become exclusice stock photographer. I'll better ask support.

ok, i'm pretty sure reuters is doing rm licensing since they're a major macro news supplier. you really need to find out from who you're selling your photos to how they are licensing their sales. if they don't know, neither will is.

It is RM, I checked. Sorry for a little bit of panic from my side.

ap · « **Reply #23 on:** March 01, 2010, 17:21 »

Quote from: Dook on March 01, 2010, 16:57

It is RM, I checked. Sorry for a little bit of panic from my side.

you're good to go then.

from what country are you submitting to reuters?

Dook · « **Reply #24 on:** March 01, 2010, 17:28 »

I am freelancing from Balkans countries.

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