Author Topic: THIRD & FINAL WARNING: Unacceptable Keyword Practices (Read 14649 times)

stockuser · « **on:** December 05, 2014, 16:18 »

Out of interested what comes FOURTH? Anyone reached the fourth warning here?

Dook · « **Reply #1 on:** December 05, 2014, 16:41 »

After the third I got so scared that I stopped uploading. It's been a year now.

tickstock · « **Reply #2 on:** December 05, 2014, 16:56 »

Quote from: stockuser on December 05, 2014, 16:18

Out of interested what comes FOURTH? Anyone reached the fourth warning here?

They give in and let you add 100 irrelevant keywords to all your new uploads? Seriously though, hopefully they close your account.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #3 on:** December 05, 2014, 17:19 »

If you're looking for help or sympathy, you may be in the wrong place. Spamming and keywording badly on purpose is a massively destructive thing to do and why anyone would get beyond one warning is a mystery to me.

Perhaps you can tell us what happens if you keep on *

heywoody · « **Reply #4 on:** December 05, 2014, 18:04 »

Spamming keywords is a bit like steroids in sport, agencies should come down on offenders much harder than they do presently

stockuser · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2014, 18:06 »

Haha I don't do better or worse keywording than average but I started to submit to istock after a 7 years break in the beginning of this yer I never used more than 50 keywords nowadays its a maximum of 30. Older images are poorer keyworded than new ones (that is probably the same for all of us).
It is true that I don't care about their disambigution crap at least not for 16% and let do this automatically. But of course I'm the bad guy haha!

stockuser · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2014, 19:05 »

BTW nobody answered my question what is happening with a fourth warning does anyone have any experience with it?

Holmes · « **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2014, 19:12 »

flogging

stockuser · « **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2014, 19:17 »

Quote from: Holmes on December 05, 2014, 19:12

flogging

lol flogging is not sustainable!

MatHayward · « **Reply #9 on:** December 05, 2014, 19:21 »

I would expect that your account will be closed if you continue to keyword the images the way you have been. 3 warnings seems pretty generous to me if it's obvious you are doing it intentionally.

I can tell you without a doubt that customers HATE when images come up in their search that have nothing to do with the search term they have entered. Keyword spamming does not benefit you in any way, shape or form. It makes the customers frustrated, the agencies angry and you lose the respect of the photography community.

Do yourself a favor..if you are spamming the keywords, knock it off!

-Mat

shudderstok · « **Reply #10 on:** December 05, 2014, 19:28 »

Quote from: stockuser on December 05, 2014, 19:05

BTW nobody answered my question what is happening with a fourth warning does anyone have any experience with it?

Obviously you are not the sharpest tool in the shed, so my advice is keep doing what you already know is wrong and see what experience your fourth warning is, and share that. Most people would have figured it out by now. If anything, I think IS has been more than tolerant with your spamming. If it was my play, I'd say strike three and you are out of there.

shudderstok · « **Reply #11 on:** December 05, 2014, 19:29 »

Quote from: stockuser on December 05, 2014, 18:06

Haha I don't do better or worse keywording than average but I started to submit to istock after a 7 years break in the beginning of this yer I never used more than 50 keywords nowadays its a maximum of 30. Older images are poorer keyworded than new ones (that is probably the same for all of us).
It is true that I don't care about their disambigution crap at least not for 16% and let do this automatically. But of course I'm the bad guy haha!

or a troll.

stockuser · « **Reply #12 on:** December 05, 2014, 19:30 »

I do nothing intentionally! I do get these warnings extremly rarely I stopped and deleted my port there seven years ago and decided this year that iStock is actually less evil than Fotolia and Deposit and put my portfolio up again, because of this I uploaded a HUGE portfolio in a very short time. Some of the older images have been maybe poorer keyworded but that was the standard for all of us at that time. All my newer images are much better relevant keyworded than most of yours and I'm not a native speaker!
I let Stocksubmitter do the submitting so the disambigution is automatic but that is the standard for most high volume producers nowadays.
So who wanna throw that stone again?

stockuser · « **Reply #13 on:** December 05, 2014, 20:00 »

I think this thread shows the state of the industry and how bitter contributors are. The first question should be: 'what you are charging 84% and you can't do your keywording yourself?' but instead people are so brainwashed here that they are blaming each other.
Keywording btw used to be a profession by itself and it should be, it is just a different skill than photographing, 3D, painting etc. And one should ask how it can be that though the agencies get most of the money why they can't at least offering the most basic service for their contibutors like keywording. Instead the force people to do something that isn't their main skill and they can't it even do in their own language they have to do in English. And for what again for 1% Commission (Depositphoto), for 3% Commission (Fotolia) or 15% Commission (iStock).

ShadySue · « **Reply #14 on:** December 05, 2014, 20:19 »

Quote from: stockuser on December 05, 2014, 20:00

Instead the force people to do something that isn't their main skill and they can't it even do in their own language they have to do in English.

Point of information: You don't have to keyword in English. You can keyword in any of the eleven (twelve if you separate UK English and US English, both of which are supported) community languages.
Of course, that's no consolation if you don't speak any of these.

I don't think you've caught on that iS/Getty aren't in the business of helping us in any way that would cost them a cent: we're just helping the owners to pay off massive debts.

It's pointless uploading if you don't keyword properly. Your keywording must be spectacularly bad - I often see files on iS which have over twenty totally wrong keywords, i.e. objectively wrong nouns, not subjective adjectives like 'adorable' or 'beautiful'. Presumably once you got your first warning, they're onto your case and someone who actually gives a d*mn checks from time to time.

Mantis · « **Reply #15 on:** December 05, 2014, 20:31 »

Give us a sample of a violation!!

We can help you!

stockuser · « **Reply #16 on:** December 05, 2014, 20:37 »

They don't give you a sample it's just a generic text!

ShadySue · « **Reply #17 on:** December 05, 2014, 20:38 »

Quote from: Mantis on December 05, 2014, 20:31

Give us a sample of a violation!! We can help you!

I don't get the impression that he wants help.

stockuser · « **Reply #18 on:** December 05, 2014, 20:42 »

I don't need help and I didn't asked for it this is true!
I asked if anyone knows what comes fourth with no hidden agenda or anything else I was just curious. And the only relevant answer I got was from a user who stopped submitting after the third.

ShadySue · « **Reply #19 on:** December 05, 2014, 20:49 »

Someone else has had three warnings:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=364143&page=1
Don't know about four.

stockuser · « **Reply #20 on:** December 05, 2014, 20:51 »

Thanks second relevant answer

Hobostocker · « **Reply #21 on:** December 05, 2014, 22:59 »

the key reason for why microstock agencies are a joke is that they don't keyword in-house.

if you're supposed to be a photo archive a strict keywording policy is the most important factor, even more important than the quality of the images.

MxR · « **Reply #22 on:** December 06, 2014, 06:31 »

I had two keywords problems in the past...

1-. Warning with google translations!!

Example: Spanish "padre coge a bebé" Google Translator "Father f/u/cks baby" Correct "father lifting baby"

or "Mujer madura" Google say: "MILF woman" correct is "mature woman"

2-. Shutterstock Suggest Keywords: this is the biggest keywords spam problem. Is easy that not relationed keywords appearin your photos.

Difydave · « **Reply #23 on:** December 06, 2014, 08:50 »

I'm glad to see iStock are doing something about bad keywording. They need to do a lot more IMO.
If you don't like the system, or can't follow their rules for whatever reason including "I'm too cool to bother with rules", then don't upload there.
It really is that simple.

Hobostocker · « **Reply #24 on:** December 06, 2014, 09:32 »

Quote from: Difydave on December 06, 2014, 08:50

I'm glad to see iStock are doing something about bad keywording. They need to do a lot more IMO.
If you don't like the system, or can't follow their rules for whatever reason including "I'm too cool to bother with rules", then don't upload there.
It really is that simple.

bad keywording and spam is THE reason why sites like Flickr or Instagram will never be possibly a competitor to stock agencies and same goes for most of the PODs.

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