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Started by lagereek, November 15, 2011, 15:03

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lagereek

I have had it with this. Know what these morons have done? a German engineering corporation that have bought from IS, for years, mails me on my private mail, asking me if I can find some cogs and gears they had seen some two months back, they needed it for a corporate-profile and wanted to purchase 8 pics. Well, obviously I mailed them the pics personally and they agreed to the sum, which was far more then what IS, had sold them for. Incidentlly, all the pics were blue flamed. i.e. had sold for more then 1000 times. Finally after half hour of looking, I found them way, way down, left there to simply be forgotten. Well, so they thought.

This is a joke! I have now told 15, regular buyers at IS, from which I personally told 7, to buy from IS, about 3 years back,  to go to either, SS, DT or FT, because they will never, ever find anything at IS.

Why dont we all just quit this joke place and just leave it to the noobs and rookies. Thats what they want anyway. They have been spitting in our faces for the last two years, so whats the big deal anyway.

helix7

Apparently istock thought that today was a good day to take some action as well. E+ files are seeing a price increase.

Call me crazy, but this seems counter-productive when buyers are already showing frustration with the company and taking their business elsewhere. And after that customer satisfaction poll that pretty clearly showed that istock has concerns about buyer satisfaction, buyers leaving, etc., how on earth is a price increase supposed to help that?

dirkr

Quote from: lagereek on November 15, 2011, 15:03
Why dont we all just quit this joke place and just leave it to the noobs and rookies. Thats what they want anyway. They have been spitting in our faces for the last two years, so whats the big deal anyway.

Sorry to disappoint you, but the "noobs and rookies" were a lot faster than you. I left them beginning of the year.
And if at least some of you bigger sellers would have done the same, maybe (big maybe) there might have been a reaction.

click_click

The noobs most likely jumped ship a while ago already since they didn't have much to lose compared to long standing contributors.

I can't drop IS if I made a grand or two a month...

And despite IS going down the toilet, SS is making up for it - so buyers do go elsewhere and we profit from that one way or another.

BaldricksTrousers

Quote from: lagereek on November 15, 2011, 15:03
Why dont we all just quit this joke place

Well, it's a personal decision, isn't it? Are you leaving?

imageegami

I find it amusing that they have the hubris to raise already inflated prices during a recession.

Perry

Quote from: imageegami on November 15, 2011, 20:37
I find it amusing that they have the hubris to raise already inflated prices during a recession.

They are the top site measured in hubris.

lisafx

Quote from: Perry on November 15, 2011, 21:36
Quote from: imageegami on November 15, 2011, 20:37
I find it amusing that they have the hubris to raise already inflated prices during a recession.

They are the top site measured in hubris.

;D

Chico

The most exciting thing happening at IS right now is all this moustache thing. I can't understand it.

Looks a place totally abandoned by God.

digitalexpressionimages

Quote from: Chico on November 15, 2011, 22:06
The most exciting thing happening at IS right now is all this moustache thing. I can't understand it.

Looks a place totally abandoned by God.

You don't understand the moustache thing? Istock is Canadian and in Canada (and other places I'm sure) November is Movember. You grow a moustache during the month to raise money for prostate cancer research. It's like wearing a pink ribbon for breast cancer.

Chico

Quote from: digitalexpressionimages on November 15, 2011, 22:58
Quote from: Chico on November 15, 2011, 22:06
The most exciting thing happening at IS right now is all this moustache thing. I can't understand it.

Looks a place totally abandoned by God.

You don't understand the moustache thing? Istock is Canadian and in Canada (and other places I'm sure) November is Movember. You grow a moustache during the month to raise money for prostate cancer research. It's like wearing a pink ribbon for breast cancer.

Well, so it's a nice initiative, but i love if IS use the same energy to promote our work or or value ourselves as artists.

gostwyck

Quote from: Chico on November 15, 2011, 22:06
Looks a place totally abandoned by God.

In what way? Has he removed his portfolio or something? I didn't even know he was a contributor.

disorderly

Quote from: gostwyck on November 15, 2011, 23:23
Quote from: Chico on November 15, 2011, 22:06
Looks a place totally abandoned by God.

In what way? Has he removed his portfolio or something? I didn't even know he was a contributor.

Haven't you seen all the tree pictures?  Surely you've heard the famous saying, "Only God can shoot a tree."

icefront

Time will solve the IS problem...

nicku

I am not in the hurry to join IS.... maybe when i finish to upload all my pics on SS, FT,123,CAN,DP,VEER...etc... i will (maybe) consider joining IS... ::)

Noedelhap

Redirecting customers to SS or DT, fine, but FT...?

cidepix

Quote from: Noedelhap on November 16, 2011, 14:01
Redirecting customers to SS or DT, fine, but FT...?

Good Point! What is that about suggesting FT as an alternative.. It is almost as awful as IS...

wut

Quote from: cidepix on November 16, 2011, 14:14
Quote from: Noedelhap on November 16, 2011, 14:01
Redirecting customers to SS or DT, fine, but FT...?

Good Point! What is that about suggesting FT as an alternative.. It is almost as awful as IS...

IMO it's actually worse. They don't have the volume (IS is loosing it as well, but it's still huge compared to FT), they've cut commissions twice and they're just following the bad example, at least IS come up with it :)

lagereek

No way. For me FT, has almost always been a great earner. Take today as an example: FT= 24 dls, mostly Photo-sale-credits, IS= 2 dls and this is only half day yet.
My problem is NOT, the revenue from IS, I have accepted that for us Independants, IS, is history and you know, sod the money. Im much more worried about this TS migration, how the heck are we going to get our pics back, especially since many of us are under Getty-contracts.

ShadySue

Quote from: lagereek on November 16, 2011, 15:48
Im much more worried about this TS migration, how the heck are we going to get our pics back, especially since many of us are under Getty-contracts.
I'm sure you'll find out when you contact CR at iStock to cancel your membership there and ask them to also pull your files from TS/Photos.com.

lagereek

Quote from: ShadySue on November 16, 2011, 16:10
Quote from: lagereek on November 16, 2011, 15:48
Im much more worried about this TS migration, how the heck are we going to get our pics back, especially since many of us are under Getty-contracts.
I'm sure you'll find out when you contact CR at iStock to cancel your membership there and ask them to also pull your files from TS/Photos.com.

No youre not reading my post properly. Some of us are under a Getty-contract, through their house-collection, RM !  Well I assume you know the rest, about our contracts, etc.

ShadySue

Quote from: lagereek on November 16, 2011, 16:46
Quote from: ShadySue on November 16, 2011, 16:10
Quote from: lagereek on November 16, 2011, 15:48
Im much more worried about this TS migration, how the heck are we going to get our pics back, especially since many of us are under Getty-contracts.
I'm sure you'll find out when you contact CR at iStock to cancel your membership there and ask them to also pull your files from TS/Photos.com.

No youre not reading my post properly. Some of us are under a Getty-contract, through their house-collection, RM !  Well I assume you know the rest, about our contracts, etc.
I have no idea. Does your Getty contract RM tie your iStock files into TS? If not, you'll have to explain the issue to us Lesser Mortals.

helix7

Quote from: lagereek on November 16, 2011, 16:46
...Well I assume you know the rest, about our contracts, etc.

I wouldn't assume that. I have no idea what you mean. Can you elaborate on this?

cobalt

#23
getty now has the right to move content between all their partner sites, upstream and downstream as they please. for rm there is some kind of time frame, i think if it hasn´t sold even once in three years they can put it into rf and if they want to even thinkstock.

But so far I haven´t heard from a single case where pictures that are on getty have been moved downstream to thinkstock or even istock.

i personally thought it was a good move, because when you look through their library there are many ordinary and old shots in the rm catalogue that are very generic or have too much modern competition from the rf collection.

and files that sell will not be moved, so this is only an issue for files without sales that might benefit from being placed into rf. there was a huge uproar about it, but to me it made sense.

ShadySue

Quote from: cobalt on November 16, 2011, 18:14
But so far I haven´t heard from a single case where pictures that are on getty have been moved downstream to thinkstock or even istock.
EdStock seems to be 75618 cases. (at least, I understood they came from Getty).