Author Topic: Update on canisters. (Read 33226 times)

crazychristina · « **on:** December 18, 2009, 16:31 »

KT has announced exclusives grandfathered to next canister level numbers. Announcement here.

cthoman · « **Reply #1 on:** December 18, 2009, 16:46 »

Thanks?

loop · « **Reply #2 on:** December 18, 2009, 16:52 »

It's far better than nothing. And, by the way, being just for exclusives, puts a dilemma on the independents wich are on the fence.

Graffoto · « **Reply #3 on:** December 18, 2009, 16:56 »

I just read it & it is certainly better than the original plan.

Still looking at a huge jump to gold after I make silver... $:-\$

crazychristina · « **Reply #4 on:** December 18, 2009, 16:57 »

Quote from: loop on December 18, 2009, 16:52

It's far better than nothing. And, by the way, being just for exclusives, puts a dilemma on the independents wich are on the fence.

Expecially as they're prepared to negotiate with independents who have contractual obligations that prevent them from going exclusive before the deadline. I presume they mean DT.

KB · « **Reply #5 on:** December 18, 2009, 17:02 »

I thought this quote makes quite a good point:

You've also effectively made it hard for anyone to give up exclusivity moving forward too because it can be assumed that they could only re-enter exclusivity under the new levels...

helix7 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 18, 2009, 17:11 »

Quote from: loop on December 18, 2009, 16:52

It's far better than nothing. And, by the way, being just for exclusives, puts a dilemma on the independents wich are on the fence.

Yep. It essentially means that exclusivity is back off the table for me again. If I go exclusive before hitting Diamond, there is too great a chance that I'd be making less as an exclusive than I would as an independent. Had they allowed this amended grandfathering policy for non-exclusive folks as well, I could have still considered exclusivity. Now there's no chance.

Oh well. Back to business as usual. I guess now I have more incentive to hope that the higher exclusive prices have a positive effect in non-exclusive sales.

pancaketom · « **Reply #7 on:** December 18, 2009, 17:16 »

I don't see anything in there for me, except they specifically stated "Our plans for next year had one goal: make more money for our exclusives" - which is of course a load of $%^& - Their goal is to make more money for themselves, and if they have to make more for exclusives, that is part of how they get there.
Unfortunately they don't seem to have much concern for the source of a lot of their content - pity.

I fear that the best match will become a BEM. oh well.

loop · « **Reply #8 on:** December 18, 2009, 17:25 »

Quote from: helix7 on December 18, 2009, 17:11

Quote from: loop on December 18, 2009, 16:52
It's far better than nothing. And, by the way, being just for exclusives, puts a dilemma on the independents wich are on the fence.

Yep. It essentially means that exclusivity is back off the table for me again. If I go exclusive before hitting Diamond, there is too great a chance that I'd be making less as an exclusive than I would as an independent. Had they allowed this amended grandfathering policy for non-exclusive folks as well, I could have still considered exclusivity. Now there's no chance.

Oh well. Back to business as usual. I guess now I have more incentive to hope that the higher exclusive prices have a positive effect in non-exclusive sales.

Life is made of choices. Good luck with yours.

lisafx · « **Reply #9 on:** December 18, 2009, 17:29 »

Quote from: helix7 on December 18, 2009, 17:11

Oh well. Back to business as usual. I guess now I have more incentive to hope that the higher exclusive prices have a positive effect in non-exclusive sales.

I seriously doubt that will happen. We will be gathering dust at the back of the best match.

If you would be serious about exclusivity at diamond level you should call or e-mail support and let them know so maybe they will grandfather you in. It is certainly worth a try

sharpshot · « **Reply #10 on:** December 18, 2009, 17:33 »

I don't really care about the canister levels, it makes no difference to me as a non-exclusive. I am still fuming about the $0.25 subs commissions. It is a shame more people aren't protesting about that. If buyers don't like the price rises and move to their subs sites, we could all end up losing money.

cthoman · « **Reply #11 on:** December 18, 2009, 19:05 »

Quote from: averil on December 18, 2009, 16:57

Expecially as they're prepared to negotiate with independents who have contractual obligations that prevent them from going exclusive before the deadline. I presume they mean DT.

I didn't see that in there or was it in another thread? All I saw was that they said they reserve the right to offer exclusivity to people under 500 downloads. That and a lot of unicorns and rainbows.

crazychristina · « **Reply #12 on:** December 18, 2009, 19:11 »

Quote from: cthoman on December 18, 2009, 19:05

Quote from: averil on December 18, 2009, 16:57
Expecially as they're prepared to negotiate with independents who have contractual obligations that prevent them from going exclusive before the deadline. I presume they mean DT.
I didn't see that in there or was it in another thread? All I saw was that they said they reserve the right to offer exclusivity to people under 500 downloads. That and a lot of unicorns and rainbows.

From KTs original announcement

Quote

This will apply to anyone who becomes Exclusive before February 24. If you're interested in becoming Exclusive but will be prevented by other contractual obligations before that cut-off date, get in touch with us and we can work something out. Email us at [email protected] before January 11 and we will arrange a wider window that works for you.

Suljo · « **Reply #13 on:** December 18, 2009, 19:14 »

I know that I always have different optics then they from iStock, but what is that?

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=155531&page=7

look third post someone want to be they iStock T-shirt of the 2010?!?

??

First of all, they are angry when I called them iStock (Cattle in my language but is obviously that kind of animal is present on "illustration")
Second rainbow flag and something on head suggest other side.
Third this wanabee "illustration"!? They will never accept this if I upload something like this poor doodle and has more than 60dls?! Maybe little improvement in this "illustration" with stick man and rainbow umbrella on the back side in BruceLee or Chuck Norris pose in action of doodle creature will have more impact because for now we see only reaction of "horse" and third law of thermodinamic says that any action must have reaction or vice versa

For my "bad tongue" about them (iStok) I receive few warnings and about 15 or more Ignore buttons for my "wannabe jokes" about them.

Whats you conclusion in this case? Am I so wrong?

Anyhow to not to bee so offtopic. I only need bigger canister levels when I started with them and for bronze was border 500 dls same with now they announce for february. In that stage I dont remember other borders because they are been so far away from me. For now I maybe few times needs few more uploads for my current canister level but it was not so horrible to wait day or two.
Maybee they drop they canister levels when they see big drop (in Alexa and wee also in our sales while experimenting with best match algorithm) last half of 2008. to attract more submitters. Now they have recover growth from last year and now they screw pipe to old level.
My only concern is if they dont dig or hide so deep nonexclusive images for buyers.
Sorry if I was "rude" again...

crazychristina · « **Reply #14 on:** December 18, 2009, 19:36 »

Hi Suljo, the illustration is very metaphorical, and represents a phrase that I had never heard until joining istock (so it's probably only common in North America), which is Heart Heart Unicorn Rainbow and apparently means whatever bad things we say about you we don't realy mean it and we still love you.

A unicorn is a mythological animal resembling a horse with a horn on it's head, so that's not a penis accidently drawn in the wrong place. The rainbow represents good feeling, and the illustration was uploaded three years ago - standards have changed since then.

Perhaps if you put HHUR at the end of your posts about istock they wouldn't get angry with you.

madelaide · « **Reply #15 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:41 »

Quote from: averil on December 18, 2009, 19:36

so that's not a penis accidently drawn in the wrong place.

Did Suljo think it was a penis? Oh my....

cthoman · « **Reply #16 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:44 »

Thanks for posting the quote. That's good to know that they are a little flexible on it.

cthoman · « **Reply #17 on:** December 19, 2009, 12:11 »

I just assumed HHUR was an iStock forum thing like Woo Yays. I've never heard either of those before iStock. Regardless, I like the illustration. A unicorn vomiting a rainbow? That's awesome!

iclick · « **Reply #18 on:** December 19, 2009, 12:13 »

Yes indeed the message and pressure seems to be once again 'Go Exclusive' or give up all hope here

Anyone any idea why they have selected February as the cut off for going Exclusive and securring a natural progression to the next cannister level ? just wondered what was on the cards after Feb $:-\$

FD · « **Reply #19 on:** December 19, 2009, 12:25 »

Quote from: sharpshot on December 18, 2009, 17:33

I am still fuming about the $0.25 subs commissions. It is a shame more people aren't protesting about that.

I followed your advice and I opted out of subs, both on IS and on StockXpert. My content will only be on SS (0.36$) and on DT (0.35$) as subs. I don't want Getty to undercut my best selling agents.

(The year of the predator)

Leo Blanchette · « **Reply #20 on:** December 19, 2009, 14:14 »

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Suljo · « **Reply #21 on:** December 19, 2009, 14:26 »

Quote from: madelaide on December 19, 2009, 11:41

Quote from: averil on December 18, 2009, 19:36
so that's not a penis accidently drawn in the wrong place.

Did Suljo think it was a penis? Oh my....

Actually not at all. My first allusion was about missing Action and Reaction like on "improved illustration". On original image is only Reaction without visible reason why mythical horse is puking rainbow.
Not like in this song. Sorry again...


Let3 feat Seve - kurcem u celo

sharpshot · « **Reply #22 on:** December 19, 2009, 16:08 »

Quote from: FD-amateur on December 19, 2009, 12:25

Quote from: sharpshot on December 18, 2009, 17:33
I am still fuming about the $0.25 subs commissions. It is a shame more people aren't protesting about that.

I followed your advice and I opted out of subs, both on IS and on StockXpert. My content will only be on SS (0.36$) and on DT (0.35$) as subs. I don't want Getty to undercut my best selling agents.

(The year of the predator)

I am getting some $0.70 subs sales from DT now as well. Makes the difference even greater.

nruboc · « **Reply #23 on:** December 19, 2009, 17:25 »

Quote from: FD-amateur on December 19, 2009, 12:25

Quote from: sharpshot on December 18, 2009, 17:33
I am still fuming about the $0.25 subs commissions. It is a shame more people aren't protesting about that.

I followed your advice and I opted out of subs, both on IS and on StockXpert. My content will only be on SS (0.36$) and on DT (0.35$) as subs. I don't want Getty to undercut my best selling agents.

(The year of the predator)

I did the same. I wish some of the other agencies would get creative and reward people doing this. Doesn't have to be monetary, maybe give people opting out of Getty subscription offerings a bump in the best match. And an even bigger bump for people who don't submit at all to Getty.

That would also increase the chances of customers jumping from site to site, seeing content they haven't already seen.

helix7 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 19, 2009, 18:45 »

Quote from: lisafx on December 18, 2009, 17:29

Quote from: helix7 on December 18, 2009, 17:11

Oh well. Back to business as usual. I guess now I have more incentive to hope that the higher exclusive prices have a positive effect in non-exclusive sales.

I seriously doubt that will happen. We will be gathering dust at the back of the best match.

If you would be serious about exclusivity at diamond level you should call or e-mail support and let them know so maybe they will grandfather you in. It is certainly worth a try

I almost hate to admit it, but I think your right. Chances are the best match shift is going to be significant, since istock stands to gain so much more now from exclusive files.

As for me going exclusive, I'm still not sure. I'd have to basically contact HQ and commit to it by January 10th, which doesn't give me any time to really see what effect the new pricing will have on sales. It's a big gamble, for sure.

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