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« on: May 15, 2013, 15:57 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 14:02 by Audi 5000 »


« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 16:07 »
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Apparently, enough people were tired of the previous royalty.  They've managed to figure out that increasing royalties = happy contributors.  Wow.

« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 16:07 »
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It's about 2 years too late for me, but I'm glad to see something moving in a positive direction.

ShadySue

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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2013, 16:35 »
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It's certainly an 'interesting' and surprising move.

« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 16:50 »
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Well, that is good news.

Too bad photography is one of the most popular hobbies on the planet.

« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 16:53 »
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So paying a bit more than obscenely low vector royalties suddenly became sustainable again?  So does that mean RCs for independent contributors no longer matter?

Anyone think images will follow?

« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 16:57 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 14:02 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2013, 18:44 »
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So decreasing royalty rates is now "unsustainable". I wonder if photos will follow. I doubt it, but it would be nice - probably too little too late for most of us by now though.

Istock could have completely ruled the microstock universe had they not become greedy and stupid.

THP Creative

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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2013, 19:03 »
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Making this change to photos as well would at least be one tiny step in the right direction, and would impact more contributors view of iStock than just vectors alone.

Do you think they are finally starting to get it? I mean, when was the last time we heard the words 'iStock' and 'contributor royalty increase' in the same breath?

ShadySue

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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2013, 19:09 »
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It's hard to interpret.
A few weeks ago, they made the bizarre and apparently illogical statement that very few vectorians were uploading to their limits, so they were removing the limits. It may be that that didn't bring in many more vectors, as would seem logical - if they weren't loading e.g. 20 a week (or whatever) it's not likely they would upload 999.
So since they clearly want more vectors (maybe as a result of market research), they had to up the payment.

I'm not sure the situation is the same for photos. A lot of indie photographers are able to fill their slots and have backlogs.

« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2013, 19:10 »
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Wowee I didn't expect them to do that! Though it doesn't affect my %, it looks like a step in the right direction..

Noedelhap

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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2013, 19:35 »
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I can hardly believe it. Good to see they're taking a step in the right direction.

EmberMike

« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2013, 20:03 »
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I can't believe that there is good news to talk about regarding istock.

But I'll gladly take the increase. It's a big positive after years of negatives. And while it doesn't solve all of the problems over there, it's a step in a good direction.

« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2013, 20:52 »
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I'm wondering if I should start uploading vectors again, but there's the infamous 'Google Deal' to consider. Were vectors included in the Google Deal?

« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2013, 23:30 »
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This is a very good sign in my eyes! Doesn't affect me as I recently hit the old RC target for 30%, but it's a change where nobody loses and a large portion of contributors gain. Congrats to all illustrators!

« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2013, 02:58 »
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Not very exciting news for the exclusives who sell the most. So this is another change that makes you suspect that they're planning to get rid of the exxlusive program completely and push everybody down to 20%.

By slowly making the exclusive program less and less attractive people will leave exclusivity by themselves... and when there aren't many exclusives left they can just shut down the program without many complaints... :(

ShadySue

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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2013, 04:20 »
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Not very exciting news for the exclusives who sell the most. So this is another change that makes you suspect that they're planning to get rid of the exxlusive program completely and push everybody down to 20%.

By slowly making the exclusive program less and less attractive people will leave exclusivity by themselves... and when there aren't many exclusives left they can just shut down the program without many complaints... :(

Probably true enough, though conversely all iS exclusive vectors are being mirrored on Getty.

« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2013, 04:30 »
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Not very exciting news for the exclusives who sell the most. So this is another change that makes you suspect that they're planning to get rid of the exxlusive program completely and push everybody down to 20%.

By slowly making the exclusive program less and less attractive people will leave exclusivity by themselves... and when there aren't many exclusives left they can just shut down the program without many complaints... :(

Maybe it's the customers who object to paying more for an 'exclusive' image? Higher prices can be justified on the grounds of higher quality or scarcity. If an exclusive image is not of noticeably high quality and, with images generally being so plentiful in supply, the premium for scarcity also becomes less justifiable.

I'd assume that these recent abrupt changes from Istock are the result of what they learned from the fancy customer survey they commissioned (the one in which respondents were offered free iPads).

We all know what they need to do to turn the ship around. It'll be interesting to see how committed they are to actually doing so ... if indeed it can still be done.

« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2013, 04:59 »
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It looks like they are trying to encourage uploads (again).. which is interesting.  Perhaps it seems like enough people giving them the cold shoulder is working.

Noedelhap

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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2013, 04:59 »
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What I don't understand is, about 6 months ago iStock made some changes which made it seem they wanted to get rid of indies (by favoring exclusives), and now, indies are being pleased at the expense of the exclusives.

« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2013, 05:54 »
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This is NO good news imo.. photographers not being included clearly shows they still don't give a * about contributors in general.. and I am saying this as a vector contributor..

The motivation behind this move is obviously the lack of vector uploads.. what we have been doing is clearly working, so what we should do is to continue doing what we have been doing..

If the royalties are not universally raised, this is not a sincere move and they will go back to abysmal levels as soon as istockphoto got what they want..

Definitely not resuming uploads.. it is good that existing files will be getting %20, instead of %15 though..
« Last Edit: May 16, 2013, 07:27 by cidepix »

ShadySue

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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2013, 06:00 »
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If the royalties are not universally raised, this is not a sincere move and they will go back to abysmal levels as soon as istockphoto got what they want..
Sadly, I suspect that this will be the case.  >:( :(

« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2013, 06:29 »
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2013, 07:18 »
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If the royalties are not universally raised, this is not a sincere move and they will go back to abysmal levels as soon as istockphoto got what they want..
Sadly, I suspect that this will be the case.  >:( :(

posted the same thing on their forum.. let's see how long it will take for them to remove it..

« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2013, 07:32 »
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so after all, we were right that istockphoto were screwed  :D

all those lies by their representatives that business was good and growing was total BS..

I have a new nickname for them: iSadstock

so sad that they swallow their words..

sustainable? unsustainable? sustainable again?

screw them! my anger against iSadstock just came back.. royalties are not a toy.. you just don't * with them!


 

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