Author Topic: Vector Vetta rebellion (Read 44052 times)

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #50 on:** April 03, 2011, 07:10 »

Quote from: nico_blue on April 03, 2011, 00:41

Looks like we'll get a vector conference call

Good luck with that. I hope those on the call keep a clear head about the string of broken promises of late - the words are always sweet the night before...

ShadySue · « **Reply #51 on:** April 03, 2011, 07:26 »

Quote from: aeonf on April 03, 2011, 03:35

^^^ What's the purpose? No %% upgrade is expected, so my bet is they are just going to try and sweet talk you into joining the program.

Nope, they're just going to force V/A into the front of all searches so that buyers not in that market will leave, and sellers who don't opt in will be at the bottom of all searches.
Oh, like they're doing right now.
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=320632&page=1
Then maybe (speculation) all Vetta pics will be compulsorily opted in to Thinkstock via Getty
http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/photos-from-gettyimages-direct-to-thinkstock-ouch
- though I notice Sean hasn't had a reply to his straight and simple question asked over 24 hours ago about exactly this possiblity (on iStock's Getty forum).

caspixel · « **Reply #52 on:** April 03, 2011, 09:21 »

The conference calls are lame. It's like suckering people into feeling they are important by giving them a title so you can take their attention off the fact that they wanted a raise.

gostwyck · « **Reply #53 on:** April 03, 2011, 18:50 »

Quote from: caspixel on April 03, 2011, 09:21

The conference calls are lame. It's like suckering people into feeling they are important by giving them a title so you can take their attention off the fact that they wanted a raise.

Agreed. They've proved effective though, at least from Istock's point of view. The last one did nip almost all discussion in the bud about the security issues and the truly horrendous cash claw-back. Whatever discussion resulted was conveniently deflected in to the laps of the the contributor participants of the conference call. Istock never had to say another word after the call __ they just left it to the 'lucky' participants to say their words for them.

It will be interesting to see how many of the vector Vetta artists capitulate after Istock have indulged, smooched and massaged their egos in a nice little chat (whilst actually just thinking about how much money can be made out of said artists).

In this case the artists are not actually seeking 'a raise' but simply to maintain their commission rate.

pancaketom · « **Reply #54 on:** April 03, 2011, 20:02 »

Get it in writing.

caspixel · « **Reply #55 on:** April 03, 2011, 20:13 »

Quote from: gostwyck on April 03, 2011, 18:50

Quote from: caspixel on April 03, 2011, 09:21
The conference calls are lame. It's like suckering people into feeling they are important by giving them a title so you can take their attention off the fact that they wanted a raise.

Agreed. They've proved effective though, at least from Istock's point of view. The last one did nip almost all discussion in the bud about the security issues and the truly horrendous cash claw-back. Whatever discussion resulted was conveniently deflected in to the laps of the the contributor participants of the conference call. Istock never had to say another word after the call __ they just left it to the 'lucky' participants to say their words for them.

It will be interesting to see how many of the vector Vetta artists capitulate after Istock have indulged, smooched and massaged their egos in a nice little chat (whilst actually just thinking about how much money can be made out of said artists).

In this case the artists are not actually seeking 'a raise' but simply to maintain their commission rate.

Nail on the head, as usual, gostwyck.

VB inc · « **Reply #56 on:** April 03, 2011, 21:23 »

Quote from: caspixel on April 03, 2011, 20:13

Quote from: gostwyck on April 03, 2011, 18:50
Quote from: caspixel on April 03, 2011, 09:21
The conference calls are lame. It's like suckering people into feeling they are important by giving them a title so you can take their attention off the fact that they wanted a raise.

Agreed. They've proved effective though, at least from Istock's point of view. The last one did nip almost all discussion in the bud about the security issues and the truly horrendous cash claw-back. Whatever discussion resulted was conveniently deflected in to the laps of the the contributor participants of the conference call. Istock never had to say another word after the call __ they just left it to the 'lucky' participants to say their words for them.

It will be interesting to see how many of the vector Vetta artists capitulate after Istock have indulged, smooched and massaged their egos in a nice little chat (whilst actually just thinking about how much money can be made out of said artists).

In this case the artists are not actually seeking 'a raise' but simply to maintain their commission rate.

Nail on the head, as usual, gostwyck.

haters are gonna hate

cathyslife · « **Reply #57 on:** April 04, 2011, 07:32 »

Quote from: VB inc on April 03, 2011, 21:23

Quote from: caspixel on April 03, 2011, 20:13
Quote from: gostwyck on April 03, 2011, 18:50
Quote from: caspixel on April 03, 2011, 09:21
The conference calls are lame. It's like suckering people into feeling they are important by giving them a title so you can take their attention off the fact that they wanted a raise.

Agreed. They've proved effective though, at least from Istock's point of view. The last one did nip almost all discussion in the bud about the security issues and the truly horrendous cash claw-back. Whatever discussion resulted was conveniently deflected in to the laps of the the contributor participants of the conference call. Istock never had to say another word after the call __ they just left it to the 'lucky' participants to say their words for them.

It will be interesting to see how many of the vector Vetta artists capitulate after Istock have indulged, smooched and massaged their egos in a nice little chat (whilst actually just thinking about how much money can be made out of said artists).

In this case the artists are not actually seeking 'a raise' but simply to maintain their commission rate.

Nail on the head, as usual, gostwyck.

haters are gonna hate

Cheerleaders are gonna cheer.

Zephyr · « **Reply #58 on:** April 04, 2011, 10:23 »

And while the independent and exclusive contributors hurl sand and cat turds at each other in the virtual sandbox, the heads of the major microstock agencies drink cognac and smoke cigars while discussing how to fleece those morons of another huge percentage of their royalties…

The vector conference call might have a good result and it might not, but at least it's a step in the right direction. People are trying to protect their royalties before having to upload their entire portfolios to 10 different agencies. There is no guarantee that the other sites won't cut royalties at some point. Is there?

VB inc · « **Reply #59 on:** April 04, 2011, 10:32 »

Quote from: cclapper on April 04, 2011, 07:32

Quote from: VB inc on April 03, 2011, 21:23

haters are gonna hate

Cheerleaders are gonna cheer.

Exactly what have i cheered about? I do my fair share of complaints on istock. however, i dont showcase my glaring hatred towards them by filling every post obsessively over and over about the ongoing events there.
Take this case for example. I think this a step in the right direction by istock. You guys dont see it that way. When you cant see any good coming out of istock, your a hater in my eyes.
Just tone it down already. Were all upset but i dont want to get annoyed seeing your avatar and imagining froth coming out of your mouth. Thats the image u leave me with.

Microbius · « **Reply #60 on:** April 04, 2011, 10:54 »

We don't randomly choose an agency to hate on.

IStock has worked really hard over recent months to get their contributors so worked up.

cathyslife · « **Reply #61 on:** April 04, 2011, 11:37 »

Quote from: VB inc on April 04, 2011, 10:32

Quote from: cclapper on April 04, 2011, 07:32
Quote from: VB inc on April 03, 2011, 21:23

haters are gonna hate

Cheerleaders are gonna cheer.

Exactly what have i cheered about? I do my fair share of complaints on istock. however, i dont showcase my glaring hatred towards them by filling every post obsessively over and over about the ongoing events there.
Take this case for example. I think this a step in the right direction by istock. You guys dont see it that way. When you cant see any good coming out of istock, your a hater in my eyes.
Just tone it down already. Were all upset but i dont want to get annoyed seeing your avatar and imagining froth coming out of your mouth. Thats the image u leave me with.

Explain to me exactly what the first conference call accomplished, in the way of getting contributors any of their money back, or more money in the future? It accomplished NOTHING, except stop all the postings in the forum for a while. Again, THAT was to istock's benefit, not the contributors.

I don't really care one way or another if you think I'm a hater...I have no control over what you think, nor do you over what I think. This is a public forum and the only person who can shut me down here is Leaf. If you don't like what I say, use the ignore button. If you don't like what a ton of others are saying, and their postings conflicts with your thoughts, ignore them. And there is always the solution of not coming here at all.

If you think this is a step in the right direction for istock, then good for you. I do not, and I will voice my opinion on it anytime I like.

I think you are being overly dramatic, using the obsessive word, hate word and any other derogatory word you can think of to describe me. Do a check of my recent posts here on this forum. I barely have time anymore to post, as I am actually out doing work. Check and see how many posts I have made in the istock forum of late...I think I can count them on one hand. Maybe you have me confused with someone else?

Clearly you are running scared because your income is dropping, sales are dropping at IS, and buyers are leaving. Otherwise, you would be out shooting, raking in the bucks, and be way too busy to come here and call people haters. Again, blame all of us here instead of the actual party responsible...ISTOCKPHOTO AND GETTY!

edit: the great thing about the internet is that the average joe now has a place to make others aware of companies that rip them off, mistreat them, etc. I am taking full advantage of that benefit. Sorry if you don't like it.

Go over to the Best Match thread...let's see you call all of those guys haters because they are doing their fair share of discussing all the negatives

cathyslife · « **Reply #62 on:** April 04, 2011, 11:41 »

double post, sorry

VB inc · « **Reply #63 on:** April 04, 2011, 11:55 »

ignored

nruboc · « **Reply #64 on:** April 04, 2011, 12:03 »

Quote from: cclapper on April 04, 2011, 11:37

Quote from: VB inc on April 04, 2011, 10:32
Quote from: cclapper on April 04, 2011, 07:32
Quote from: VB inc on April 03, 2011, 21:23

haters are gonna hate

Cheerleaders are gonna cheer.

Exactly what have i cheered about? I do my fair share of complaints on istock. however, i dont showcase my glaring hatred towards them by filling every post obsessively over and over about the ongoing events there.
Take this case for example. I think this a step in the right direction by istock. You guys dont see it that way. When you cant see any good coming out of istock, your a hater in my eyes.
Just tone it down already. Were all upset but i dont want to get annoyed seeing your avatar and imagining froth coming out of your mouth. Thats the image u leave me with.

Explain to me exactly what the first conference call accomplished, in the way of getting contributors any of their money back, or more money in the future? It accomplished NOTHING, except stop all the postings in the forum for a while. Again, THAT was to istock's benefit, not the contributors.

I don't really care one way or another if you think I'm a hater...I have no control over what you think, nor do you over what I think. This is a public forum and the only person who can shut me down here is Leaf. If you don't like what I say, use the ignore button. If you don't like what a ton of others are saying, and their postings conflicts with your thoughts, ignore them. And there is always the solution of not coming here at all.

If you think this is a step in the right direction for istock, then good for you. I do not, and I will voice my opinion on it anytime I like.

I think you are being overly dramatic, using the obsessive word, hate word and any other derogatory word you can think of to describe me. Do a check of my recent posts here on this forum. I barely have time anymore to post, as I am actually out doing work. Check and see how many posts I have made in the istock forum of late...I think I can count them on one hand. Maybe you have me confused with someone else?

Clearly you are running scared because your income is dropping, sales are dropping at IS, and buyers are leaving. Otherwise, you would be out shooting, raking in the bucks, and be way too busy to come here and call people haters. Again, blame all of us here instead of the actual party responsible...ISTOCKPHOTO AND GETTY!

edit: the great thing about the internet is that the average joe now has a place to make others aware of companies that rip them off, mistreat them, etc. I am taking full advantage of that benefit. Sorry if you don't like it.

Go over to the Best Match thread...let's see you call all of those guys haters because they are doing their fair share of discussing all the negatives

+1, VERY WELL SAID!!!

VB inc · « **Reply #65 on:** April 04, 2011, 12:16 »

Quote from: Microbius on April 04, 2011, 10:54

We don't randomly choose an agency to hate on.

IStock has worked really hard over recent months to get their contributors so worked up.

I agree... i pretty much have lost all faith in istock the last 6 months even though i am making more money through them now than ever before. Thats probably the reason i come in here more often nowadays to get a feel of whats going on and how this industry is doing. Istock is clearly squeezing the hobbyists out.
It just gets aggravating for me to sift through threads with certain contributors that say the same crap over and over again on the same topic on the same thread. Got it, i heard you the first 500 times. At least there is this place to vent your frustrations out, but some people just love to vent!

jamirae · « **Reply #66 on:** April 04, 2011, 12:32 »

I'm not a lover or hater. but I do think it is at least a good thing that iStock is even talking to them. I do hope something good comes of it, but if history is any indication, it might only be a nice gesture with no actual change in istock's side of things.

overall if iStock didn't pull this crap in the first place it would be ideal. I see them making small attempts to prove that they are still the "nice guys" that so many of us were proud to be associated with, but it just looks more and more like the nice guys are out and those are in charge are simply "all business."

please prove me wrong, iStock. Do something good for contributors.

VB inc · « **Reply #67 on:** April 04, 2011, 12:33 »

Quote from: nruboc on April 04, 2011, 12:03

+1, VERY WELL SAID!!!

u want my apology for the "dickmove" statement i outed u on earlier? im sorry, i call it like i see it.

I pretty much have nothing good to say about istock at the moment and i still get called a cheerleader.

cathyslife · « **Reply #68 on:** April 04, 2011, 12:53 »

Quote from: VB inc on April 04, 2011, 12:16

Quote from: Microbius on April 04, 2011, 10:54
We don't randomly choose an agency to hate on.

IStock has worked really hard over recent months to get their contributors so worked up.

I agree... i pretty much have lost all faith in istock the last 6 months even though i am making more money through them now than ever before. Thats probably the reason i come in here more often nowadays to get a feel of whats going on and how this industry is doing. Istock is clearly squeezing the hobbyists out.
It just gets aggravating for me to sift through threads with certain contributors that say the same crap over and over again on the same topic on the same thread. Got it, i heard you the first 500 times. At least there is this place to vent your frustrations out, but some people just love to vent!

But the problem is that there are many folks here who are venting...so when you do it, it's ok, when everyone else does it, it's ok, when I do it, or Gostwyck does it, were haters? Just listen to yourself.

And you better believe it, I do love to vent, especially about istock!

cathyslife · « **Reply #69 on:** April 04, 2011, 13:05 »

Quote from: VB inc on April 04, 2011, 12:33

Quote from: nruboc on April 04, 2011, 12:03
+1, VERY WELL SAID!!!

u want my apology for the "dickmove" statement i outed u on earlier? im sorry, i call it like i see it.

I pretty much have nothing good to say about istock at the moment and i still get called a cheerleader.

You got called a cheerleader because you called someone else a hater. If you don't like being called names, don't call anyone else names. Everyone has an equal right to vent here.

thesentinel · « **Reply #70 on:** April 04, 2011, 13:20 »

Quote from: cclapper on April 04, 2011, 13:05

You got called a cheerleader because you called someone else a hater.

It's this level of debate that makes this site such compelling comedy.

jamirae · « **Reply #71 on:** April 04, 2011, 13:25 »

Quote from: thesentinel on April 04, 2011, 13:20

Quote from: cclapper on April 04, 2011, 13:05

You got called a cheerleader because you called someone else a hater.

It's this level of debate that makes this site such compelling comedy.

that may be but in reality there really is a lot more to the discussions here than silly name calling. it is a great forum for being able to express your opinions without getting your topic closed or deleted.

cathyslife · « **Reply #72 on:** April 04, 2011, 13:38 »

Quote from: thesentinel on April 04, 2011, 13:20

Quote from: cclapper on April 04, 2011, 13:05

You got called a cheerleader because you called someone else a hater.

It's this level of debate that makes this site such compelling comedy.

Totally! I'm working on a Flash website, and this provides a great diversion!

nruboc · « **Reply #73 on:** April 04, 2011, 13:39 »

Quote from: VB inc on April 04, 2011, 12:33

Quote from: nruboc on April 04, 2011, 12:03
+1, VERY WELL SAID!!!

u want my apology for the "dickmove" statement i outed u on earlier? im sorry, i call it like i see it.

I pretty much have nothing good to say about istock at the moment and i still get called a cheerleader.

I have no idea what you are talking about, obviously you think I remember or care who you are. You finally managed to find the ignore button, feel free to use it again

caspixel · « **Reply #74 on:** April 04, 2011, 15:21 »

Quote from: VB inc on April 04, 2011, 10:32

Quote from: cclapper on April 04, 2011, 07:32
Quote from: VB inc on April 03, 2011, 21:23

haters are gonna hate

Cheerleaders are gonna cheer.

Exactly what have i cheered about? I do my fair share of complaints on istock. however, i dont showcase my glaring hatred towards them by filling every post obsessively over and over about the ongoing events there.
Take this case for example. I think this a step in the right direction by istock. You guys dont see it that way. When you cant see any good coming out of istock, your a hater in my eyes.
Just tone it down already. Were all upset but i dont want to get annoyed seeing your avatar and imagining froth coming out of your mouth. Thats the image u leave me with.

I could care less what you think about me or if you imagine froth coming out of my mouth. See that ignore button? Use it and stop whining and name-calling.

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Author Topic: Vector Vetta rebellion (Read 44052 times)

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