Author Topic: Vector Vetta rebellion (Read 44050 times)

caspixel · « **Reply #75 on:** April 04, 2011, 15:22 »

Quote from: cclapper on April 04, 2011, 11:37

Explain to me exactly what the first conference call accomplished, in the way of getting contributors any of their money back, or more money in the future? It accomplished NOTHING, except stop all the postings in the forum for a while. Again, THAT was to istock's benefit, not the contributors.

I don't really care one way or another if you think I'm a hater...I have no control over what you think, nor do you over what I think. This is a public forum and the only person who can shut me down here is Leaf. If you don't like what I say, use the ignore button. If you don't like what a ton of others are saying, and their postings conflicts with your thoughts, ignore them. And there is always the solution of not coming here at all.

If you think this is a step in the right direction for istock, then good for you. I do not, and I will voice my opinion on it anytime I like.

EXACTLY!!!

caspixel · « **Reply #76 on:** April 04, 2011, 15:23 »

Quote from: VB inc on April 04, 2011, 12:16

It just gets aggravating for me to sift through threads with certain contributors that say the same crap over and over again on the same topic on the same thread. Got it, i heard you the first 500 times. At least there is this place to vent your frustrations out, but some people just love to vent!

It's your problem, not ours that you get aggravated.

Risamay · « **Reply #77 on:** April 04, 2011, 15:44 »

The conference calls are pointless, as the first/last one demonstrated.

Chris3fer · « **Reply #78 on:** April 05, 2011, 10:25 »

Quote from: Risamay on April 04, 2011, 15:44

The conference calls are pointless, as the first/last one demonstrated.

I agree, completely useless.

cathyslife · « **Reply #79 on:** April 05, 2011, 20:58 »

So how did the conference call go, or has it happened yet? I couldn't find anything on it or the date when it was supposed to happen.

gclk · « **Reply #80 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:45 »

Andrew's post in the iS 'Vetta % cut for Vectors' thread (my emphasis)...

Yes, it's more so that we can be more forthcoming on our end about the broader background. The actual substance of what we discuss regarding Vetta rates is going to be public soon enough. The Video contributors we've talked with over the last few weeks have been under NDA, yes.

Seems this either suggests that there's a change coming regarding Vetta rates, or there's a genuine financial reason for them 'having' to be so low.

aeonf · « **Reply #81 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:42 »

^^^ I would put my money on: "there's a genuine financial reason for them 'having' to be so low."

Just please exchange "reason" for "excuse"

gostwyck · « **Reply #82 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:49 »

Quote from: gclk on April 06, 2011, 01:45

Andrew's post in the iS 'Vetta % cut for Vectors' thread (my emphasis)...

Yes, it's more so that we can be more forthcoming on our end about the broader background. The actual substance of what we discuss regarding Vetta rates is going to be public soon enough. The Video contributors we've talked with over the last few weeks have been under NDA, yes.

Seems this either suggests that there's a change coming regarding Vetta rates, or there's a genuine financial reason for them 'having' to be so low.

That is interesting. What could the 'actual substance' be? I'm guessing it might be further intertwining of IS & Getty for Vetta and video and therefore a common commission rate.

caspixel · « **Reply #83 on:** April 06, 2011, 09:18 »

These conference calls really are a brilliant move on iStock's part. They make the contributors feel like they "care" all the while shutting up the critics (that they haven't already banned). And they resolve exactly nothing. iStock still carries on with business as usual. I'm just surprised so many people are falling for it.

lisafx · « **Reply #84 on:** April 06, 2011, 09:51 »

Quote from: retrorocket on April 04, 2011, 10:23

And while the independent and exclusive contributors hurl sand and cat turds at each other in the virtual sandbox, the heads of the major microstock agencies drink cognac and smoke cigars while discussing how to fleece those morons of another huge percentage of their royalties…

ROFLMAO!! Don't know how I missed this gem yesterday, but you paint quite a picture Retrorocket

Zephyr · « **Reply #85 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:48 »

^Thanks!

It would be nice if all of us contributors could get along and make decisions together. I know that as long as a big chunk of us are exclusive that isn't possible but we are all ultimately on the same team.

I would have never become exclusive under the RC system but uploading 1200+ illustrations to 10 different agencies to maximize my earnings as an independent is a daunting task. I can't imagine having 10,000+ images and be considering that option.

If the conference call doesn't change anything then that is one more option being exhausted. We aren't "falling" for anything Caspixel but attempting the path of least resistance first.

lisafx · « **Reply #86 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:58 »

Quote from: retrorocket on April 06, 2011, 11:48

I would have never become exclusive under the RC system but uploading 1200+ illustrations to 10 different agencies to maximize my earnings as an independent is a daunting task. I can't imagine having 10,000+ images and be considering that option.

Not trying to persuade you either way on exclusivity, but 90% of my earnings come from just the top 4 agencies. So anyone leaving exclusivity only really has to upload to 3 additional agencies to maximize their earnings.

Other sites have their issues too, though, so whether or not to stay exclusive has many things to consider, but uploading to 10 or more additional sites isn't really necessary.

vlad_the_imp · « **Reply #87 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:19 »

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We aren't "falling" for anything Caspixel

Don't take too much notice of Caspixel, her spittle-flecked lunacy is one of the downsides of visiting these forums. Since she was ejected from istock for crimes against fashion ( is there anywhere that shortie leather jackets with turned up collars is de rigueur?) she spends all her time oozing negativity. Just ignore her.

cathyslife · « **Reply #88 on:** April 06, 2011, 13:15 »

Quote from: vlad_the_imp on April 06, 2011, 12:19

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We aren't "falling" for anything Caspixel

Don't take too much notice of Caspixel, her spittle-flecked lunacy is one of the downsides of visiting these forums. Since she was ejected from istock for crimes against fashion ( is there anywhere that shortie leather jackets with turned up collars is de rigueur?) she spends all her time oozing negativity. Just ignore her.

Now isn't that the pot calling the kettle black! caspixel oozes negativity, but you talking negative about her and calling her names is OK. Too funny!

You guys crack me up.

caspixel · « **Reply #89 on:** April 06, 2011, 15:30 »

Quote from: vlad_the_imp on April 06, 2011, 12:19

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We aren't "falling" for anything Caspixel

Don't take too much notice of Caspixel, her spittle-flecked lunacy is one of the downsides of visiting these forums. Since she was ejected from istock for crimes against fashion ( is there anywhere that shortie leather jackets with turned up collars is de rigueur?) she spends all her time oozing negativity. Just ignore her.

Bahahahaha. cclapper is right. Classic pot/kettle, right down to the personal attack! I don't know why you take my criticism of iStock so personally that you would have to make fun of a profile photo that was taken back in the 90s - duh - and was all just in fun.

nruboc · « **Reply #90 on:** April 06, 2011, 15:53 »

Quote from: caspixel on April 06, 2011, 15:30

Quote from: vlad_the_imp on April 06, 2011, 12:19
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We aren't "falling" for anything Caspixel

Don't take too much notice of Caspixel, her spittle-flecked lunacy is one of the downsides of visiting these forums. Since she was ejected from istock for crimes against fashion ( is there anywhere that shortie leather jackets with turned up collars is de rigueur?) she spends all her time oozing negativity. Just ignore her.

Bahahahaha. cclapper is right. Classic pot/kettle, right down to the personal attack! I don't know why you take my criticism of iStock so personally that you would have to make fun of a profile photo that was taken back in the 90s - duh - and was all just in fun.

LOL, you're getting under his skin ....keep up the good work

And you should know, though while anonymous, vlad_the_imp makes in the top 10% of his European country and he retains his anonymity here because some day he may need to say something negative about IStock, because as of yet, they haven't done enough things wrong.

caspixel · « **Reply #91 on:** April 06, 2011, 16:16 »

Quote from: retrorocket on April 06, 2011, 11:48

If the conference call doesn't change anything then that is one more option being exhausted. We aren't "falling" for anything Caspixel but attempting the path of least resistance first.

Well, judging from the fraud conference call, sorry to say, nothing changed. All iStock did was to get trusted members of the community to back them up and it got people to stop talking about audits and lawsuits. I can't see much more coming out of the Vetta illustration conference call. But just like the fraud one, people were convinced iStock "cared" just by having it. It's definitely one of the more brilliant strategies they devised lately, that's for sure.

caspixel · « **Reply #92 on:** April 06, 2011, 16:17 »

Quote from: nruboc on April 06, 2011, 15:53

And you should know, though while anonymous, vlad_the_imp makes in the top 10% of his European country and he retains his anonymity here because some day he may need to say something negative about IStock, because as of yet, they haven't done enough things wrong.

Ha! Thanks for reminding me how "important" he is. Clearly I should be crushed by his ill opinion of me.

Zephyr · « **Reply #93 on:** April 06, 2011, 16:38 »

@caspixel

This conference call is different from the fraud call. They just took our money and some contributors got to listen to the reason why it was done.

I and hopefully everyone one on that list has already contacted support to opt-out of Vetta. If the conference call does not get us our main collection royalty rate for Vetta then I'm staying opted-out.

If Istock decides to punish me for demanding the royalty rate I earned through the canister system and then through the RC system for Vetta then I have the option to drop the crown.

caspixel · « **Reply #94 on:** April 06, 2011, 16:56 »

Quote from: retrorocket on April 06, 2011, 16:38

@caspixel

This conference call is different from the fraud call. They just took our money and some contributors got to listen to the reason why it was done.

I and hopefully everyone one on that list has already contacted support to opt-out of Vetta. If the conference call does not get us our main collection royalty rate for Vetta then I'm staying opted-out.

If Istock decides to punish me for demanding the royalty rate I earned through the canister system and then through the RC system for Vetta then I have the option to drop the crown.

I wish you good luck!!

aeonf · « **Reply #95 on:** April 06, 2011, 17:05 »

The call is over, quoting Rogermexico:

"We've just finished the phone call with the Vector group. We are going to do some email follow up with them on a few things. In my opinion it was a really productive discussion. There will likely be a few days with little news so give them some time and space. From the iStock side, we intend to make a post next week with a proposal to the whole Vector community. Thanks Nico_blue, daveturton, johnwoodcock and sodafish for having the discussion!"

caspixel · « **Reply #96 on:** April 06, 2011, 17:13 »

Quote from: aeonf on April 06, 2011, 17:05

The call is over, quoting Rogermexico:

"We've just finished the phone call with the Vector group. We are going to do some email follow up with them on a few things. In my opinion it was a really productive discussion. There will likely be a few days with little news so give them some time and space. From the iStock side, we intend to make a post next week with a proposal to the whole Vector community. Thanks Nico_blue, daveturton, johnwoodcock and sodafish for having the discussion!"

So, they have to run it past Getty?

jamirae · « **Reply #97 on:** April 06, 2011, 17:19 »

Quote from: aeonf on April 06, 2011, 17:05

The call is over, quoting Rogermexico:

"We've just finished the phone call with the Vector group. We are going to do some email follow up with them on a few things. In my opinion it was a really productive discussion. There will likely be a few days with little news so give them some time and space. From the iStock side, we intend to make a post next week with a proposal to the whole Vector community. Thanks Nico_blue, daveturton, johnwoodcock and sodafish for having the discussion!"

was this also video or just vector?

cathyslife · « **Reply #98 on:** April 06, 2011, 17:30 »

Quote from: caspixel on April 06, 2011, 17:13

Quote from: aeonf on April 06, 2011, 17:05
The call is over, quoting Rogermexico:

"We've just finished the phone call with the Vector group. We are going to do some email follow up with them on a few things. In my opinion it was a really productive discussion. There will likely be a few days with little news so give them some time and space. From the iStock side, we intend to make a post next week with a proposal to the whole Vector community. Thanks Nico_blue, daveturton, johnwoodcock and sodafish for having the discussion!"

So, they have to run it past Getty?

Either they are going to give contributors their money, or they're not. Again with the whole big drama. Dragging it out a week buys Getty/IS more time to take more money.

caspixel · « **Reply #99 on:** April 06, 2011, 20:46 »

Quote from: cclapper on April 06, 2011, 17:30

Either they are going to give contributors their money, or they're not. Again with the whole big drama.

And the NDA.

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