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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: berryspun on April 23, 2007, 21:58

Title: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: berryspun on April 23, 2007, 21:58
Adelaide got me curious in the SS 5c raise thread:

(...) the average earnings in IS are high above the minimum. 

OK, I calculated my total average, and it is... 50 cents per picture!  :)

(note: in terms of total revenues, both sites are head to head for me)

What is your IS average per picture?
Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: lathspell on April 23, 2007, 22:23
~$9.50 per picture, calculation based on the number of my currently active pictures. I'm not sure about the amount when calculating with all the deactivated/dollar-binned images, could be ~$8 per picture then ...
Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: yingyang0 on April 23, 2007, 22:30
$1.20 per photo at IS.

(note: in terms of total revenue IS is 3x as much).
Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: berryspun on April 23, 2007, 23:34
lathspell and yingyang0, I think that I didn't explain well the question.

What I meant for the average per picture is: the total number of pictures sold since you join IS divided by the total income you have received from IS for those sold pictures.

Sorry for the confusion, if any.
Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: sharply_done on April 24, 2007, 00:02
$/DL is one of the statistics I keep track of. Mine floats around $0.66.

I assumed $/DL would be a constant - I guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: yingyang0 on April 24, 2007, 00:14
What I meant for the average per picture is: the total number of pictures sold since you join IS divided by the total income you have received from IS for those sold pictures.
@sharply - note that berryspun for some reason wants total photos sold divided by total revenue, not $/DL.

I don't know why you want DLs/income because it's not really a meaningful statistic. But since you asked berryspun, it is $1.44.

For the more meaningful stat ($/DL), my answer is $0.69 per download.

P.S. I think you were looking for $/DL but said it wrong (twice). The first time you asked for total income divided by number of photos in portfolio.
Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: hatman12 on April 24, 2007, 00:17
For me, last week at IS my $/DL was $0.49.

My overall total average is $0.73.

10 week running average is $0.64 so last week was below trend.
Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: snoozle on April 24, 2007, 02:30
I've only been submitting there for 2 months, and don't generate the kind of sales others around here do, but my average $/dl is 53c, although the monthly totals have been quite diverse 43c last month, and 71c so far this month.

Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: lathspell on April 24, 2007, 06:49
What I meant for the average per picture is: the total number of pictures sold since you join IS divided by the total income you have received from IS for those sold pictures.

Ooops, allright, that would make ~ $0.37 ... but I joined IS when the contributors got $0.05 royalties no matter which size.

My avarage $/DL for this month is about ~$0.63.
Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: mattb on April 24, 2007, 07:54
Mine is relatively low at .47, although I have a lot of pictures from my old 4mp Olympus so I'm sure I lose out on some of the higher commissions.
Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: sim on April 24, 2007, 08:45
Mine average is $0.58 per D/L.
Sales have rocketed in the last few weeks for me, however, it seems to be the same images that sell everyday!
Title: Re: What is your total average earning per picture?
Post by: berryspun on April 24, 2007, 08:48
P.S. I think you were looking for $/DL but said it wrong (twice). The first time you asked for total income divided by number of photos in portfolio.

yingyang0, $/DL was what I had in mind in my 1st post too, but I didn't explain it correctly.  My apologies.

This post is in the context of Adelaide's point answering michaeldb about the SS raise, when he said that this 5c SS raise is 33% more than what IS pays.

For an accurate comparison, $/DL would be the reference, right?
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: jcphoto on April 24, 2007, 09:26
All time average per download is .64

However, since the price restructuring in January, the average has jumped to .79 per sale.
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: digiology on April 24, 2007, 10:03
.53 all time average
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: KiwiRob on April 24, 2007, 10:05
I average .54 cents more than twice what I get from SS, DT is better .72 cents.
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: Read_My_Rights on April 24, 2007, 10:06
0.66
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: stokfoto on April 24, 2007, 10:25
.54cent  but my calculation might not count as I am also a video contributer
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: madelaide on April 24, 2007, 16:52
49c overall, but 59c this year with the new price structure. 

Just for comparison, 72c overall in DT, 73c this year.

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: ludesal on April 24, 2007, 17:25
0.55
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: le_cyclope on April 24, 2007, 20:19
Here's my stats:

IS: .55$/DL
DT: .85$/DL
FT: .46$/DL
ST: .88$/DL  (but only 25 DL!)  :-[
and SS: .25$/DL (of course!)

One interresting note:  before last raise at iStock, my ratio there was .495$/DL.  So the raise for me was more than 10%.

Claude
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: CJPhoto on April 25, 2007, 00:50
it is about 57c at IS but it has been going up to about 70c.  Dreamstime is up to about 90c, fotolia all over the place (probably 50 - 60c), SS 25c, 123rd about 40c - 50c, and StockXpert about $1

That looks ab bit confusing:

IS 57c
DT 90c
FT 50c
SS 25c
123 40c
StockXpert $1
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: tln on April 25, 2007, 06:52
US$ 0.53 / DL
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: Opla on April 25, 2007, 07:15
62c
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: berryspun on April 25, 2007, 08:11
Very interesting statistics, thank you everyone.  I find these numbers quite informative.  In average, with the numbers posted here, IS pays at least twice as much per picture as SS (25c still applying until May 1st), but sells less.  Both sites are very good earners though.

Again, thanks!  :)
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: sharply_done on April 25, 2007, 09:50
Personally, I think a more interesting and informative statistic is $/image/month. This better predicts what I can expect from a site. My stats are IS at $2+/-, SS at $1+/-, with DT and FT steady at a measly $0.20, and $0.10 respectively.

For me, the only thing stopping IS from overtaking SS is time. Some members here - most notably kosmikkreeper (http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?action=profile;u=210) - have already passed this barrier.
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: berryspun on April 25, 2007, 10:38
Yes, it would have been more precise and current.  Your numbers still confirm that you get twice as much per picture at IS compared to SS, like what it does for me.  However in my case, SS and IS end up giving about the same monthly $ amount at this point.
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: scrappinstacy on April 25, 2007, 15:14
.62
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: IRCrockett on April 25, 2007, 15:28
IS: .55$/DL
and SS: .25$/DL (of course!)

Why would SS be "of course!"?

Mine
IS: $0.55
SS: $0.31

Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: madelaide on April 25, 2007, 18:56
sharply_done,

I didn't understand your index.  I believe $ = (total for the site), images = (number of images for sale, not dlds) but month = (??).  Total months on the site?  $/i calculated each month?

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: sharply_done on April 25, 2007, 21:20
madelaide: I calculate $/file on a daily basis (i.e. daily income/portfolio size), then average these numbers together on a monthly basis.

$0.20/file/month means that I will earn $0.20 in 1 month for each image I post to that site. If my portfolio is, say 800 images, I will earn $160 from that site.

One of my goals is to maintain an average of $1/file/month. I'd be at that level if my sales at DT and FT weren't so dismal. I'm very near to the point of abandoning FT (currently 9c/file/month - egad!) in favor of StockXpert, whose Alexa numbers show much promise.
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: Lee Torrens on May 25, 2007, 10:07
Agreed Sharply. I'm in it for the money, so income quantity is a much more meaningfull statistic than download quantity.

Here's my extrapolated income/portfolio figures for May with portfolio size tacked on the end.

IS   0.35   595
SS   0.27   566
DT   0.16   515
FT   0.07   435
BS   0.04   157
CS   0.04   281
123   0.20   21
SX   1.16   16
LO   0.31   23

While I have a very small portfolio so far on StockXpert, and what I have there are my best sellers, you can see that they're likely a good candidate for you to replace Fotolia.
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: beisea on May 25, 2007, 11:31
here is my result, 9 months into the business, with total of 7070 Dls,

$0.31 SS
$0.80 DT
$0.54 IS
$0.59 FT
$0.74 BigStock
$0.78 StockXpert

the ranking is based on total revenue.
Title: Re: What is your all-time $/DL at IS?
Post by: PenelopeB on May 25, 2007, 15:05
Right now - sitting at

IS - $1.94

Dt - $1.10

StockXpert - $0.84