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« Reply #175 on: November 06, 2012, 12:15 »
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This is the real funny thing about indies.  They actively root for the company that pays them less for the work.  It makes no sense.  But then again there is that cheap hooker vs high priced call girl thing.  I know which one I would choose.

Hahaha, and even more funny is you're writing this while selling on micros earning maybe 1$/download.

Sorry dude,   I am averaging more than $5/dl as istock exclusive.  A dollar for a large dl was back in 2006


Microbius

« Reply #176 on: November 06, 2012, 14:50 »
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 Istock pay some of the lowest rates when you take thinkstock into account. I'll have to double check when I've got access to to my stats, but I think as an indie I am under 1 dollar rpd on IS/TS counting both sites together as we are forced to upload as if they are one site.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2012, 14:54 by Microbius »

« Reply #177 on: November 06, 2012, 15:24 »
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Istock pay some of the lowest rates when you take thinkstock into account. I'll have to double check when I've got access to to my stats, but I think as an indie I am under 1 dollar rpd on IS/TS counting both sites together as we are forced to upload as if they are one site.
I've just looked at my figures for last month and my RPD at IS/thinkstock was 64c!!!!!!!
This compares to
71c at SS
2.18$ at DT
1.21$ at FT
and I earnt considerably more  at each of these sites than I did at IS.

Microbius

« Reply #178 on: November 06, 2012, 16:13 »
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Yeah sucks pretty hard don't it. I can't believe they have managed to convince us that they pay better than the other sites. Everyone needs to run the numbers.

« Reply #179 on: November 06, 2012, 17:37 »
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Istock pay some of the lowest rates when you take thinkstock into account. I'll have to double check when I've got access to to my stats, but I think as an indie I am under 1 dollar rpd on IS/TS counting both sites together as we are forced to upload as if they are one site.
I've just looked at my figures for last month and my RPD at IS/thinkstock was 64c!!!!!!!
This compares to
71c at SS
2.18$ at DT
1.21$ at FT
and I earnt considerably more  at each of these sites than I did at IS.


Wow, I'm getting 10x that (6.5 $ per download, and that is before Getty sales). Even wirh the Exclusive factor the difference seems too big.

lisafx

« Reply #180 on: November 06, 2012, 17:53 »
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Wow, I'm getting 10x that (6.5 $ per download, and that is before Getty sales). Even wirh the Exclusive factor the difference seems too big.

Loop, do you have your port mirrored in the PP?  If not, that would explain the difference.  Most of us independents are getting more sales on TS than IS these days.  Those .25 sales really drop the average. 

For example, my average RPD on Istock in Sept. was $1.79.  But when you factor in the PP sales, it drops to .85.


« Reply #181 on: November 06, 2012, 18:01 »
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For comparison:
w/o PP: 6$ RPD
with PP: 4$ RPD

Exclusive at 35%
Photos only

WarrenPrice

« Reply #182 on: November 06, 2012, 18:03 »
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Wow, I'm getting 10x that (6.5 $ per download, and that is before Getty sales). Even wirh the Exclusive factor the difference seems too big.

Loop, do you have your port mirrored in the PP?  If not, that would explain the difference.  Most of us independents are getting more sales on TS than IS these days.  Those .25 sales really drop the average. 

For example, my average RPD on Istock in Sept. was $1.79.  But when you factor in the PP sales, it drops to .85.

This seems to get more and more complex.  PP must include more than just TS.  I've had some PP sales that were more than $2.  And, aren't TS subs at 28 cents vice 25 cents?

This is more of a question than an answer.  I am independent but no where near an authority on anything dealing with iS ... or microstock business in general, for that matter.


« Reply #183 on: November 06, 2012, 18:08 »
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Wow, I'm getting 10x that (6.5 $ per download, and that is before Getty sales). Even wirh the Exclusive factor the difference seems too big.

Loop, do you have your port mirrored in the PP?  If not, that would explain the difference.  Most of us independents are getting more sales on TS than IS these days.  Those .25 sales really drop the average. 

For example, my average RPD on Istock in Sept. was $1.79.  But when you factor in the PP sales, it drops to .85.

Just a little percentage of pics that I put there at the beggining, many of them deactivated from Istock. I don't ever look at my PP sales. Few files, as I said, and the older and worst ones, te kind of stuff I imagine can be sold fort 0.38.

« Reply #184 on: November 06, 2012, 18:11 »
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Wow, I'm getting 10x that (6.5 $ per download, and that is before Getty sales). Even wirh the Exclusive factor the difference seems too big.

Loop, do you have your port mirrored in the PP?  If not, that would explain the difference.  Most of us independents are getting more sales on TS than IS these days.  Those .25 sales really drop the average. 

For example, my average RPD on Istock in Sept. was $1.79.  But when you factor in the PP sales, it drops to .85.

Just a little percentage of pics that I put there at the beggining, many of them deactivated from Istock. I don't ever look at my PP sales. Few files, as I said, and the older and worst ones, te kind of stuff I imagine can be sold for 0.38.

Anyway, I calculated the RPD from my numbers from October. I think October PP sales aren't added yet.

El's, Agency, Vetta, E+ ans so on, must play a part in this difference.

sorry, accidentally duplicated post.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2012, 18:39 by loop »

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« Reply #185 on: November 06, 2012, 19:15 »
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PP must include more than just TS. 
There's Photos.com; but people tend only to mention TS for whatever reason.

lisafx

« Reply #186 on: November 06, 2012, 21:11 »
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This seems to get more and more complex.  PP must include more than just TS.  I've had some PP sales that were more than $2.  And, aren't TS subs at 28 cents vice 25 cents?


Yes, you are right on both counts Warren.  I misspoke.  I get .28 at TS, not .25. 

My stats are correct though.  Calculated them straight from my spreadsheet. 

« Reply #187 on: November 06, 2012, 22:52 »
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PP must include more than just TS. 
There's Photos.com; but people tend only to mention TS for whatever reason.

I think most of the sales are coming from ThinkStock - I don't check the details across the board, but whenever I've looked at an image's PP sales, TS outnumbers Photos.com by a factor of 10.

** Edited to add that I checked one of the early files to make it over to the PP a year ago. It's had 107 PP sales since then, 10 of which were Photos.com. **

The Image Packs - which are credit bundles or similar to SS on demand - bring higher royalties than 28 cents per.

For September 2012 (the last month I have PP numbers for) my RPD from all the IS properties is 83 cents, but from IS "proper" it's $2.04. SS was 86 cents, so roughly comparable.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2012, 00:50 by jsnover »

« Reply #188 on: November 23, 2012, 11:38 »
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Has anyone mentioned the word "Refunds" yet? :p

(Just to bring it up again even if it was already discussed to death because it is a part of iStock which I can never understand and cannot agree with... Maybe "customers" using photos for free and then getting all their money back without being asked why MIGHT explain why the site is tanking???)


 

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