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Title: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: lisafx on January 07, 2011, 18:51
I am just curious how many people will be affected by moving the RC targets.  To me, they are still pretty unreasonable on the top end.  Please vote on whether or not these NEW targets will make any difference in your royalty % for this year.  
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credits?
Post by: RT on January 07, 2011, 19:24
Lisa I think you could word the question slightly better, although we all know what you're talking about now I think somebody reading this in the future could be confused into thinking iStock are raising our royalties !!!!

Maybe:

Yes although I'm still getting a reduction over my 2010 rates.

Yes and now I've retained my rate from 2010.

Neutral I was already remaining on the same rate I had in 2010.

No I'm still getting my commissions reduced by the same amount compared to 2010 royalties.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credits?
Post by: madelaide on January 07, 2011, 19:29
well, I am a mediocre seller, so i have only 1492 credits in 2010, slightly below the 1500 limit to move from 15 to 16%. The 16% wouldn't make me feel better anyway.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credits?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on January 07, 2011, 19:42
I'm now more RCs above the target for 35% than I was before, but for some bizarre reason, that doesn't make me feel better.

I do want to nominate KT's post for some sort of razzie award though:

"And I must say, thank you to everyone for helping iStock with an exceptional year. With your hard work, we continue to meet and exceed our goals."

Imagine the school bully who beat you and took your lunch money passing you a note in class:

"Thank you for helping me buy such a wonderful lunch and not hitting me back. With your money I can even buy myself a new video game this weekend too"
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credits?
Post by: Perry on January 07, 2011, 19:45
Here are the new targets http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=289922&page=1 (http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=289922&page=1)

I am a bit over 30,000. 40,000 -> 37,000 no difference to me, still getting the crappy 17% :(
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credits?
Post by: Perry on January 07, 2011, 19:47
--double post--
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credits?
Post by: lisafx on January 07, 2011, 19:47

I do want to nominate KT's post for some sort of razzie award though:

"And I must say, thank you to everyone for helping iStock with an exceptional year. With your hard work, we continue to meet and exceed our goals."

Imagine the school bully who beat you and took your lunch money passing you a note in class:

"Thank you for helping me buy such a wonderful lunch and not hitting me back. With your money I can even buy myself a new video game this weekend too"

Absolutely!  That guy is just amazing!  Every time he makes a post he puts his foot further in his mouth.  
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credits?
Post by: lisafx on January 07, 2011, 19:53
Lisa I think you could word the question slightly better, although we all know what you're talking about now I think somebody reading this in the future could be confused into thinking iStock are raising our royalties !!!!


Richard, I agree, it could be worded better.  I just changed the title a bit, so hopefully that helps.  As for the choices, I am trying to keep it simple.  Either: Yes, I am moving up because of the revised targets, or No, I'm not.  

If anyone thinks this poll means Istock is raising royalties, I have some swamp land here in Florida I am willing to sell them at a great price ;)
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: cathyslife on January 07, 2011, 20:46
I will be at a crappy 16%. Wooyay!

I haven't gone near the thread, I don't like vomiting. But judging from what you all are reporting, I can't believe the number of people who are grateful for this. Just freakin incredible. Stockholm Syndrome is exactly right. Or the abused spouse syndrome.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credits?
Post by: BooKitty on January 07, 2011, 20:59

I do want to nominate KT's post for some sort of razzie award though:

"And I must say, thank you to everyone for helping iStock with an exceptional year. With your hard work, we continue to meet and exceed our goals."

Imagine the school bully who beat you and took your lunch money passing you a note in class:

"Thank you for helping me buy such a wonderful lunch and not hitting me back. With your money I can even buy myself a new video game this weekend too"

Absolutely!  That guy is just amazing!  Every time he makes a post he puts his foot further in his mouth.  

Or his head further up his ass.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: markrhiggins on January 07, 2011, 21:08
I am so excited I made it to 16%.
PS you could hit school bully and they would never lie to you. You were told they were trying to steal your money. Lying plus stealing is far worse.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: luissantos84 on January 07, 2011, 21:16
exclusives losing 6 and 7k.. who will benefit?
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: gostwyck on January 07, 2011, 21:24
exclusives losing 6 and 7k.. who will benefit?

Istockphoto obviously you idiot. What actually is the point of your incessant, meaningless drivel?
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: luissantos84 on January 07, 2011, 21:28
exclusives losing 6 and 7k.. who will benefit?

Istockphoto obviously you idiot. What actually is the point of your incessant, meaningless drivel?

sorry whatīs your problem? have you ever heard of sarcasm? didnīt undestand your rude comment
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: gostwyck on January 07, 2011, 21:48
sorry whatīs your problem? have you ever heard of sarcasm? didnīt undestand your rude comment

It's not 'sarcasm' or irony, at best it might be described, very weakly, as rhetoric. I'm just tired of your constant posting to say ... er ... nothing at all. Pointless.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: luissantos84 on January 07, 2011, 21:55
sorry whatīs your problem? have you ever heard of sarcasm? didnīt undestand your rude comment

It's not 'sarcasm' or irony, at best it might be described, very weakly, as rhetoric. I'm just tired of your constant posting to say ... er ... nothing at all. Pointless.

ohhhh I see!
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: Risamay on January 07, 2011, 21:58
The changes help me not on iota. Neither as an indie, nor had I remained exclusive.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: dgilder on January 07, 2011, 22:14
Would have still been a drop.  Ho hum, iStocks done.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credits?
Post by: nickp37 on January 08, 2011, 00:05
well, I am a mediocre seller, so i have only 1492 credits in 2010, slightly below the 1500 limit to move from 15 to 16%. The 16% wouldn't make me feel better anyway.
^ Exactly the same here! Thankfully doing better on the video side, though.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: traveler1116 on January 08, 2011, 06:13
Not sure yet, I'm 99.2% of the level with 295 credits short.  I'm hoping IS will bump me up the last less than 1%.  But as of now I'm not helped at all.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: aeonf on January 08, 2011, 06:43
Staying at 25%
Hope the targets will remain the same for 2011 so we reach 30% faster then expected.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: Perry on January 08, 2011, 07:05
I'm hoping IS will bump me up the last less than 1%.  But as of now I'm not helped at all.

I hope they don't. If there is going to be levels, they have to be the same for all of us.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: cathyslife on January 08, 2011, 08:08
I'm hoping IS will bump me up the last less than 1%.  But as of now I'm not helped at all.

I hope they don't. If there is going to be levels, they have to be the same for all of us.

I would be happy for your traveler, if they did, but I think Perry is right. Since they have dropped the targets now, they have dropped them to include everybody that they wanted to benefit. Everyone else, I think, will be SOL. Sorry to say.

edit: for our out-of-US friends...SOL = sh*t out of luck
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: dhanford on January 08, 2011, 08:53
I am convinced that KT is no longer involved in iS.  I think he sold out AND sold his name for a huge sum of money. So now when IS has these insulting announcements, they haul out the KT name to make the poor a**holes that are still drinking the KoolAid will feel warn and fuzzy and that ultimately Daddy IS will take care of us.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: brm1949 on January 08, 2011, 09:40
So some are making it due to fraud? They are made partakers of fraudulent business practices and this is ethical? Wrong is right, right is wrong. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: rubyroo on January 08, 2011, 10:37
There used to be a perfect phrase for it:  "Ill-gotten gains".
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: lisafx on January 08, 2011, 10:56
Well, I am happy for the four people that are doing better than they otherwise would have done.  But looks like, at the moment, for almost 95% of us the new targets make no difference. 
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: NancyCWalker on January 08, 2011, 12:16
I'm not changing. But then again I was never in the favored group either.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: jamirae on January 08, 2011, 17:44
The changes help me not on iota. Neither as an indie, nor had I remained exclusive.

ditto.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credits?
Post by: iclick on January 08, 2011, 18:05

I do want to nominate KT's post for some sort of razzie award though:

"And I must say, thank you to everyone for helping iStock with an exceptional year. With your hard work, we continue to meet and exceed our goals."

Imagine the school bully who beat you and took your lunch money passing you a note in class:

"Thank you for helping me buy such a wonderful lunch and not hitting me back. With your money I can even buy myself a new video game this weekend too"

Absolutely!  That guy is just amazing!  Every time he makes a post he puts his foot further in his mouth.  

Agree... unbelievable!

A case of thanks for nothing for me unfortunately
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: Dr Bouz on February 11, 2011, 11:56
in september i said that i am going down from silver for some 1-1.5k RC. and after lowering, i am on the same. if i was exclusive for whole year, i should be on the same with no concerns. (somewhere about 24k)
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: RacePhoto on February 11, 2011, 14:02
Well, I am happy for the four people that are doing better than they otherwise would have done.  But looks like, at the moment, for almost 95% of us the new targets make no difference. 

I suppose it's a little late to mention this but honestly the survey should have asked, three questions, not two. "How will the new RC credit targets affect your income?"

1) Improved
2) The Same
3) Lower

Still as surprised as anyone that seven people benefited from this. May I guess that they are all high volume exclusives?  ;)
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: cathyslife on February 11, 2011, 14:05
snip
Still as surprised as anyone that seven people benefited from this. May I guess that they are all high volume exclusives?  ;)

I would guess the same thing.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: Sadstock on February 11, 2011, 14:27
I actually would think they are low volume, high RC's per sale exclusives, since if they were high volume, they would already be gold/diamond.  It is more likely bronze or silver folks who portfolio has lots of vetta in it, who now get to a higher percentage much sooner than they would have under the old system.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: lisafx on February 11, 2011, 14:38
I actually would think they are low volume, high RC's per sale exclusives, since if they were high volume, they would already be gold/diamond.  It is more likely bronze or silver folks who portfolio has lots of vetta in it, who now get to a higher percentage much sooner than they would have under the old system.

^^ Agree.  I think it is more likely the only ones to benefit are high volume, relative newbies. 
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: fotografer on February 11, 2011, 16:06
I'm a diamond independent and I benefited.  I just missed  40,000 by a very small amount and the change bought me up to 18%.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: Digital66 on February 11, 2011, 16:40
I'm a diamond independent and I benefited.  I just missed  40,000 by a very small amount and the change bought me up to 18%.

You benefited? Sure?  You went from 20% to 18% !!! ???
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: fotografer on February 11, 2011, 16:43
I'm a diamond independent and I benefited.  I just missed  40,000 by a very small amount and the change bought me up to 18%.

You benefited? Sure?  You went from 20% to 18% !!! ???
Unless I'm mistaken the question was if I would do better under the new targets than the original targets.  Under the original targets I would have got 17% and under the new targets I will get 18%
I'm not in anyway wooyaying just answering Lisa's question!!
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: luissantos84 on February 11, 2011, 16:46
just had a 0.12$ sale! now back to uploading :)
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: Digital66 on February 11, 2011, 16:46
I'm a diamond independent and I benefited.  I just missed  40,000 by a very small amount and the change bought me up to 18%.

You benefited? Sure?  You went from 20% to 18% !!! ???
Unless I'm mistaken the question was if I would do better under the new targets than the original targets.  Under the original targets I would have got 17% and under the new targets I will get 18%
I'm not in anyway wooyaying just answering Lisa's question!!
Oops!  You are right.   Sorry.    I guess it's coffee time.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: adamkaz on February 11, 2011, 16:57
One of the lucky few... wish it didn't come to this though.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: lisafx on February 11, 2011, 19:09

Unless I'm mistaken the question was if I would do better under the new targets than the original targets.  Under the original targets I would have got 17% and under the new targets I will get 18%
I'm not in anyway wooyaying just answering Lisa's question!!

This thread's so old I had forgotten what my original question was about, LOL.  But I am glad you got bumped.  Honestly.  It sucks that any of us got lowered at all, but glad to hear the revisions made a difference for a few :)
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: VB inc on February 11, 2011, 21:57
me too, i was one of the lucky few who actually got a bump up. But i still think istock really robbed a lot of contributors. Most of the contributors joined and stuck w exclusitivity in the hopes of getting to the 40% one day.
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: Poncke on October 25, 2012, 17:30
me too, i was one of the lucky few who actually got a bump up. But i still think istock really robbed a lot of contributors. Most of the contributors joined and stuck w exclusitivity in the hopes of getting to the 40% one day.

So, how did it pan out for everyone?
Title: Re: Will you benefit from Istock's revised RC credit targets?
Post by: fritz on October 25, 2012, 17:55
No, I don't thing so. At the moment having 30K so I miss 5K credits.But who knows, everything is possible in the game of istock.