Author Topic: WME is the new BME (Read 7307 times)

Chico · « **on:** March 01, 2013, 08:12 »

IS veterans will remember. Every month, when sales topic started, almost every dude had a BME. Today, almost everyone has a WME.

Mantis · « **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2013, 08:20 »

Istock is on a foundation of sand.

m-studio · « **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2013, 10:42 »

I'm in micro stock for about a year.. Just on october I become excl. The first two months boom up.. now down down ...

I don't know what can I do anymore..

Whas my decision good?:S

tab62 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2013, 11:11 »

'Whas my decision good?:S'

you probably already know the answer to this question already.

ShadySue · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2013, 11:26 »

Quote from: m-studio on March 01, 2013, 10:42

I'm in micro stock for about a year.. Just on october I become excl. The first two months boom up.. now down down ...

I don't know what can I do anymore..

Whas my decision good?:S

Depends how well you were doing elsewhere (if you were submitting elsewhere).

shudderstok · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2013, 11:30 »

do you really think the grass is greener on the other side? there is simply an oversupply of images on the market. the revolution of cheap images is now in full effect, and will in my opinion further put the whole industry in decline.

m-studio · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2013, 11:33 »

I had just 20-30 images(testing) on SS and I was generating a few dollars a mont here.

Now on IS I have 950 images on feb. I made around 100$.

:S

luissantos84 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2013, 11:34 »

Quote from: shudderstok on March 01, 2013, 11:30

do you really think the grass is greener on the other side? there is simply an oversupply of images on the market. the revolution of cheap images is now in full effect, and will in my opinion further put the whole industry in decline.

I am leaving

dirkr · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2013, 11:36 »

Quote from: shudderstok on March 01, 2013, 11:30

do you really think the grass is greener on the other side? there is simply an oversupply of images on the market. the revolution of cheap images is now in full effect, and will in my opinion further put the whole industry in decline.

I disagree. The oversupply will hurt the profitability of the individual contributor, but will not endanger the whole industry.
The total demand for images (properly licenced images) is not driven by the supply.
Oversupply may push prices down, but it will not eliminate the whole business.

EmberMike · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2013, 11:59 »

Quote from: m-studio on March 01, 2013, 11:33

I had just 20-30 images(testing) on SS and I was generating a few dollars a mont here.

Now on IS I have 950 images on feb. I made around 100$.

That's not much of a sample to draw any real conclusions from, but for the sake of argument if you wanted to do the math, you were probably making about the same amount of money per image per month at SS as you are with istock. If I could make the same amount of money with SS that I could make as an exclusive with istock, I'd definitely opt for SS and then just ramp up my earnings by submitting to other companies as well.

m-studio · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2013, 12:20 »

Quote from: EmberMike on March 01, 2013, 11:59

Quote from: m-studio on March 01, 2013, 11:33
I had just 20-30 images(testing) on SS and I was generating a few dollars a mont here.

Now on IS I have 950 images on feb. I made around 100$.

That's not much of a sample to draw any real conclusions from, but for the sake of argument if you wanted to do the math, you were probably making about the same amount of money per image per month at SS as you are with istock. If I could make the same amount of money with SS that I could make as an exclusive with istock, I'd definitely opt for SS and then just ramp up my earnings by submitting to other companies as well.

I'm really not smart anymore... I have friend that is at IS for long years.. He told me that jan 2013 was better then 2012. On the other side I have a friend that makes 1K+ $ every month with 2000 images across 4 sites.

I will wait a few months if they fix the best match...

luissantos84 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2013, 12:28 »

Quote from: m-studio on March 01, 2013, 12:20

Quote from: EmberMike on March 01, 2013, 11:59
Quote from: m-studio on March 01, 2013, 11:33
I had just 20-30 images(testing) on SS and I was generating a few dollars a mont here.

Now on IS I have 950 images on feb. I made around 100$.

That's not much of a sample to draw any real conclusions from, but for the sake of argument if you wanted to do the math, you were probably making about the same amount of money per image per month at SS as you are with istock. If I could make the same amount of money with SS that I could make as an exclusive with istock, I'd definitely opt for SS and then just ramp up my earnings by submitting to other companies as well.

I'm really not smart anymore... I have friend that is at IS for long years.. He told me that jan 2013 was better then 2012. On the other side I have a friend that makes 1K+ $ every month with 2000 images across 4 sites.

I will wait a few months if they fix the best match...

wow! what a big universe

cthoman · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2013, 12:34 »

Quote from: m-studio on March 01, 2013, 12:20

I'm really not smart anymore... I have friend that is at IS for long years.. He told me that jan 2013 was better then 2012. On the other side I have a friend that makes 1K+ $ every month with 2000 images across 4 sites.

I will wait a few months if they fix the best match...

You could ask a dozen different people and get a dozen different answers. You could take the average like the chart on the right, but that may not be the right answer for you either. It's really about experimenting to find the best solution for you. That's what I've found anyway.

m-studio · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2013, 12:35 »

Quote from: cthoman on March 01, 2013, 12:34

Quote from: m-studio on March 01, 2013, 12:20
I'm really not smart anymore... I have friend that is at IS for long years.. He told me that jan 2013 was better then 2012. On the other side I have a friend that makes 1K+ $ every month with 2000 images across 4 sites.

I will wait a few months if they fix the best match...

You could ask a dozen different people and get a dozen different answers. You could take the average like the chart on the right, but that may not be the right answer for you either. It's really about experimenting to find the best solution for you. That's what I've found anyway.

Thanks;)

heywoody · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2013, 13:25 »

Nothing, nada, not 1 single sale in Feb. Tiny port but usually make 2 -3 times more per image than SS. From the sentiments here and over there and the fact that review times have gone to hell on the other sites, it sure looks like a sinking ship.

Chico · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2013, 13:31 »

Wow, Pieman is furious.

OhGoAway! · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2013, 13:44 »

Quote from: Chico on March 01, 2013, 13:31

Wow, Pieman is furious.

And screw him.

Sadstock · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2013, 13:45 »

Quote from: Chico on March 01, 2013, 13:31

Wow, Pieman is furious.

Link?

OhGoAway! · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2013, 13:47 »

Quote from: Sadstock on March 01, 2013, 13:45

Quote from: Chico on March 01, 2013, 13:31
Wow, Pieman is furious.

Link?

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=351835&page=5

Chico · « **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2013, 13:52 »

Topic is on fire.

Mantis · « **Reply #20 on:** March 01, 2013, 14:32 »

Posted By Lobo:

Posted By PrairieArtProject:
December 2002, when I had 15 files in my portfolio, is the only month that I have ever done worse than I did in February of 2013. I am beyond shocked at how things have fallen apart here.

When was the last time you uploaded a file? I'm just curious as it might help other contributors if they had some addition clarity regarding the decline you are seeing.

Does it matter? We're not talking about a small decline. We're talking about a difference of hundreds of files that at least until the past month had managed to be not great but not terrible. But whatever, villify me if you want. The files I uploaded last summer have done nothing, so it wasn't terrifically motivating to keep on.

BTW, I thought this was the stats thread, not the commentary thread, so keep it on topic.

CLASSIC!!!!

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=351835&page=5

ShadySue · « **Reply #21 on:** March 01, 2013, 14:46 »

Quote from: Chico on March 01, 2013, 13:31

Wow, Pieman is furious.

Which normally would be fair comment, except that since late Sept, new files have fallen like stones in most ports. So why upload and lose the file for ever?

mlwinphoto · « **Reply #22 on:** March 01, 2013, 17:33 »

I think things are coming to a head over there, finally. Sales threads are usually around 50/50 in terms of doing well vs. not doing so well. Not this time. Time for Getty/iStock to let us know what is really going on as this can't be solely best match related (besides, we can no longer blame the price slider or lack of a zoom tool as contributing factors....not much left.).

KB · « **Reply #23 on:** March 01, 2013, 18:45 »

Quote from: ShadySue on March 01, 2013, 14:46

Quote from: Chico on March 01, 2013, 13:31
Wow, Pieman is furious.

Which normally would be fair comment, except that since late Sept, new files have fallen like stones in most ports. So why upload and lose the file for ever?

Please stop me from doing this! ... No? .... No one? .... *#$^%!@%

I can't believe it, but I agree with Lobo. PrairieArtProject has UL'd a total of SIX files since July 2010. Who amongst us wouldn't expect to see a significant downturn with that kind of output? Of course we'd all prefer it if our older files continued to sell well, but we know that it's also necessary to feed the beast at least a bit more than that.

lisafx · « **Reply #24 on:** March 01, 2013, 19:01 »

Quote from: KB on March 01, 2013, 18:45

I can't believe it, but I agree with Lobo. PrairieArtProject has UL'd a total of SIX files since July 2010. Who amongst us wouldn't expect to see a significant downturn with that kind of output? Of course we'd all prefer it if our older files continued to sell well, but we know that it's also necessary to feed the beast at least a bit more than that.

I am not one of the Lobo haters, and I can see how he might have had a point, if Tracey was the only person reporting such massive drops. But they are epidemic across the spectrum of people who have uploaded little to people who have uploaded thousands a year.

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Author Topic: WME is the new BME (Read 7307 times)

Chico

Mantis

m-studio

tab62

ShadySue

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m-studio

luissantos84

dirkr

EmberMike

m-studio

luissantos84

cthoman

m-studio

heywoody

Chico

OhGoAway!

Sadstock

OhGoAway!

Chico

Mantis

ShadySue

mlwinphoto

KB

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