Author Topic: Woo-Nay (Read 8596 times)

BaldricksTrousers · « **on:** June 23, 2011, 04:59 »

I see the Spring Woo Yay thread is now closed with a grand total of 45 posts. It seems to be something of an emotional barometer showing how engaged the community is with the site. Tallies of 300 to 400 posts per quarter were quite normal in the past.

aeonf · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2011, 06:38 »

Link?

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2011, 06:45 »

They're in the off topic forum

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=318842&page=1

a search pulls up the older ones.

gclk · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2011, 07:02 »

I'd put money on a 'Woo-Nay' thread attracting a lot more posts these days, except that it'd probably soon get locked / disappear.

cathyslife · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2011, 07:20 »

Quote from: gclk on June 23, 2011, 07:02

I'd put money on a 'Woo-Nay' thread attracting a lot more posts these days, except that it'd probably soon get locked / disappear.

I agree.

jamirae · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:01 »

speaking 'woo-yay' -- what's the deal with the PTOTW? do they delete the previous one once a new pimp thread has started? I pretty much lost interest when it was taken over by istock admins.

caspixel · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:14 »

Also note that the new summer "Woo-Yay" thread has a total of zero posts so far.

michealo · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:35 »

Quote from: jamirae on June 23, 2011, 09:01

I pretty much lost interest when it was taken over by istock admins.

likewise

jamirae · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:16 »

well you know, they have special rules for some people. I special thread can be started when someone hits black diamond or one of the favorites has something special happen - rarely have I seen those threads be locked with a remark of "congrats, now go visit the woo-yay thread."

that has always irritated me. if you're going to have a policy, enforce it consistently.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:18 »

guys the funniest is on the PP forum, flames of files on PP

lagereek · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:59 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 23, 2011, 10:18

guys the funniest is on the PP forum, flames of files on PP

Jeez! pathetic really. It surprises me though that somebody like, jtyler, lends herself to this PP stuff. She is a good photographer.

cathyslife · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2011, 11:04 »

Quote from: lagereek on June 23, 2011, 10:59

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 23, 2011, 10:18
guys the funniest is on the PP forum, flames of files on PP

Jeez! pathetic really. It surprises me though that somebody like, jtyler, lends herself to this PP stuff. She is a good photographer.

Yeah, I was surprised at that, too. Oh well, whatever.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2011, 12:15 »

I don´t talk there, talked like 2 or 3 times but it is just crazy.. don´t people deserve respect? I don´t understand why always ten stones on hands ready to bully whatever gets in their way

luissantos84 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2011, 12:17 »

Quote from: lagereek on June 23, 2011, 10:59

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 23, 2011, 10:18
guys the funniest is on the PP forum, flames of files on PP

Jeez! pathetic really. It surprises me though that somebody like, jtyler, lends herself to this PP stuff. She is a good photographer.

I am on the PP just to let you know.. honestly I don´t believe I won´t make much difference but the real stuff is that I do half of IS money there and totally different stuff..

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2011, 12:40 »

Quote from: jamirae on June 23, 2011, 09:01

speaking 'woo-yay' -- what's the deal with the PTOTW? do they delete the previous one once a new pimp thread has started? I pretty much lost interest when it was taken over by istock admins.

I think you will find all the old threads in the Lighbox forum. I never go in there, so I only know because somewhere in the past Rob made mention of the old PTOW threads going there in some forum I do read.

aeonf · « **Reply #15 on:** June 23, 2011, 13:02 »

Quote from: lagereek on June 23, 2011, 10:59

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 23, 2011, 10:18
guys the funniest is on the PP forum, flames of files on PP

Jeez! pathetic really. It surprises me though that somebody like, jtyler, lends herself to this PP stuff. She is a good photographer.

Pardon my ignorance, but why not? What's the difference between selling on the PP and on SS or any other subscription site for that matter ?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 23, 2011, 13:09 »

PP is another outlet that´s for sure, not the volume of SS..

the problem is that people are collecting some money there, so why not all of us? yep we are screwing stock.. this discussion will never end.. my opinion is that we all should quit all top agencies and join 50%

(where there is no money)

lagereek · « **Reply #17 on:** June 23, 2011, 14:04 »

Quote from: aeonf on June 23, 2011, 13:02

Quote from: lagereek on June 23, 2011, 10:59
Quote from: luissantos84 on June 23, 2011, 10:18
guys the funniest is on the PP forum, flames of files on PP

Jeez! pathetic really. It surprises me though that somebody like, jtyler, lends herself to this PP stuff. She is a good photographer.

Pardon my ignorance, but why not? What's the difference between selling on the PP and on Shutterstock or any other subscription site for that matter ?

Well PP members are in general sabotaging the industry, they use little point/shoots and ware flowers in their hair, they are not to be trusted, they are all on the pot and weed...........

.............. wait a minute! are you also with PP

?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 23, 2011, 14:37 »

come on... tons of exclusives are there blame those first then attack the other..

caspixel · « **Reply #19 on:** June 23, 2011, 14:40 »

They have really killed any fun those forums used to be. I notice they aren't nearly active as they used to be. And all the thread locking certainly doesn't give a great impression of the site anymore, either. There are six locked threads out of fifteen (that are not stickeys) in the Discussion forum. Off-topic forum is dead except for the race threads. Designer forum has been dead for a long time now. Logo forum is dead and beaten a few times too. And on and on...

cobalt · « **Reply #20 on:** June 23, 2011, 16:16 »

A lot of community activity has moved to facebook. I have daily contact with istockers from all over the globe. we share shooting tips, images, ask for help with props or locations or recommend models. Plus all the chitchat and kid pictures. Why can´t we have all that activity on istock??

Since last September, I do think the negative mood and all the drastic changes on istock has made members look for other outlets to share the creative spirit.

The biggest disadvantage is that you meet fewer people and watching several forums, facebook and the blogoshpere isn´t so efficient. I would very much prefer to have a bustling, hustling forum full of enthusiastic people.

45 woo-yay comments is pitiful and depressing. I mean, what about all the new incoming fresh talent?? Where are they?

cathyslife · « **Reply #21 on:** June 23, 2011, 17:16 »

Quote from: cobalt on June 23, 2011, 16:16

A lot of community activity has moved to facebook. I have daily contact with istockers from all over the globe. we share shooting tips, images, ask for help with props or locations or recommend models. Plus all the chitchat and kid pictures. Why can´t we have all that activity on istock??

Since last September, I do think the negative mood and all the drastic changes on istock has made members look for other outlets to share the creative spirit.

The biggest disadvantage is that you meet fewer people and watching several forums, facebook and the blogoshpere isn´t so efficient. I would very much prefer to have a bustling, hustling forum full of enthusiastic people.

45 woo-yay comments is pitiful and depressing. I mean, what about all the new incoming fresh talent?? Where are they?

And I am in a different place. I would very much have preferred if they forgot the forum altogether and concentrated on important things that made both me and them money. I certainly met some nice people in my CN, but it was just a side benefit...the main benefit for most contributors was making money.

lisafx · « **Reply #22 on:** June 23, 2011, 17:19 »

Quote from: cclapper on June 23, 2011, 17:16

Quote from: cobalt on June 23, 2011, 16:16
A lot of community activity has moved to facebook. I have daily contact with istockers from all over the globe. we share shooting tips, images, ask for help with props or locations or recommend models. Plus all the chitchat and kid pictures. Why can´t we have all that activity on istock??

Since last September, I do think the negative mood and all the drastic changes on istock has made members look for other outlets to share the creative spirit.

The biggest disadvantage is that you meet fewer people and watching several forums, facebook and the blogoshpere isn´t so efficient. I would very much prefer to have a bustling, hustling forum full of enthusiastic people.

45 woo-yay comments is pitiful and depressing. I mean, what about all the new incoming fresh talent?? Where are they?

And I am in a different place. I would very much have preferred if they forgot the forum altogether and concentrated on important things that made both me and them money. I certainly met some nice people in my CN, but it was just a side benefit...the main benefit for most contributors was making money.

Seems like at one time they managed to have both. Now they have neither.

aeonf · « **Reply #23 on:** June 23, 2011, 18:23 »

Quote from: lagereek on June 23, 2011, 14:04

Quote from: aeonf on June 23, 2011, 13:02
Quote from: lagereek on June 23, 2011, 10:59
Quote from: luissantos84 on June 23, 2011, 10:18
guys the funniest is on the PP forum, flames of files on PP

Jeez! pathetic really. It surprises me though that somebody like, jtyler, lends herself to this PP stuff. She is a good photographer.

Pardon my ignorance, but why not? What's the difference between selling on the PP and on Shutterstock or any other subscription site for that matter ?

Well PP members are in general sabotaging the industry, they use little point/shoots and ware flowers in their hair, they are not to be trusted, they are all on the pot and weed...........

.............. wait a minute! are you also with PP ?

For starters whats wrong with pot and weed ?
We are in the PP, but no bestsellers nor vetta go there.
I still don't see whats wrong with it. what the difference between the PP and SS ?

ShadySue · « **Reply #24 on:** June 23, 2011, 18:28 »

Quote from: cobalt on June 23, 2011, 16:16

A lot of community activity has moved to facebook. I have daily contact with istockers from all over the globe. we share shooting tips, images, ask for help with props or locations or recommend models. Plus all the chitchat and kid pictures. Why can´t we have all that activity on istock??

Since last September, I do think the negative mood and all the drastic changes on istock has made members look for other outlets to share the creative spirit.

The biggest disadvantage is that you meet fewer people and watching several forums, facebook and the blogoshpere isn´t so efficient. I would very much prefer to have a bustling, hustling forum full of enthusiastic people.

45 woo-yay comments is pitiful and depressing. I mean, what about all the new incoming fresh talent?? Where are they?

I'm sure it's because of the bell chart. In the old days, you could help someone else and it wouldn't really affect you, particularly if they shot different things to you.
Nowadays, you could help someone else, and they (or a lurker who read your hint) could overtake you in the RCs. That could affect you very badly.
The shame, the shame.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 23, 2011, 18:33 »

I am not into weed, ok not anymore

here in Russian is usual to smoke!

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #26 on:** June 23, 2011, 20:57 »

Quote from: aeonf on June 23, 2011, 18:23

...We are in the PP, but no bestsellers nor vetta go there.
I still don't see whats wrong with it. what the difference between the PP and Shutterstock ?

There are plenty of old threads for you to read if you want to delve into the details of the arguments against the partner program. IMO you're helping Getty nail the lid of your coffin as an exclusive by sending any work over there. It helps Getty to pull more and more work - Vetta/Agency to Getty Images and everything else to the PP - to sites that pay you 20% and no RCs to build your royalties on iStock the following year. It's a tool in the march to giving everyone a max of 20% and the bribe is some money now to make you willing to do it.

I don't participate in the PP now as an independent because they pay so poorly. Why should I assist Getty in taking business from SS which pays me a better rate?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 23, 2011, 21:10 »

that´s all right jsnover and I agree but the real thing is that when you are building some income to get to decent amounts we do need to have a few agencies and such.. and why I say that?

IS is paying me 15% (close to 1500 RC´s) but still will be at 16%
FT I am getting less than I used to have when I started 2 years ago, which means 23% until Silver (which isn´t that close and even there will be 25%)
DT keep having a lot of subs..
123RF seem to be the only one is holding up and become a great agency..

what shall I do? leave all agencies and stay only at SS? leave PP? why? when it gives me like 50% of IS earnings.. and more than CanStockPhoto, BigStock, GLO, VEER, SF, DP

not really easy to step aside.. I do believe when I get to higher earnings I can make some decisions, until there I cannot..

Mantis · « **Reply #28 on:** June 24, 2011, 19:46 »

Quote from: jsnover on June 23, 2011, 20:57

Quote from: aeonf on June 23, 2011, 18:23

Why should I assist Getty in taking business from Shutterstock which pays me a better rate?

Because Getty will always have customers no matter how well Shutterstock does. And because of the critical mass concept there will always be enough contributors at Getty to support their collection. So why not have your images there? I know the idealogs will tell contributors not to sell their stuff there because it is a disservice to the whole industry but, like I said, that critical mass momentum will simply crush that ideology. It can't be stopped or greatly influenced by a few pulling out. You will never convince everyone to pull out. Human nature (money) dictates that. So knowing that one can make $50 or $100 or $200 a month extra in a system where ideology will never mean squat is incentive enough in my opinion.

Risamay · « **Reply #29 on:** June 30, 2011, 14:36 »

Quote from: caspixel on June 23, 2011, 09:14

Also note that the new summer "Woo-Yay" thread has a total of zero posts so far.

Seems the community there is * near dead. Glad for the friendship I made and where they are flourishing, elsewhere.

caspixel · « **Reply #30 on:** June 30, 2011, 15:02 »

Quote from: Risamay on June 30, 2011, 14:36

Quote from: caspixel on June 23, 2011, 09:14
Also note that the new summer "Woo-Yay" thread has a total of zero posts so far.

Seems the community there is near dead. Glad for the friendship I made and where they are flourishing, elsewhere.

There are now two posts, one of which is this: It's winter over here!!

Mantis · « **Reply #31 on:** June 30, 2011, 16:50 »

I have simply stopped posting over there. Between the three Musketeers you can't say anything other than show your your appreciating for the way they've screwed you.

caspixel · « **Reply #32 on:** June 30, 2011, 20:08 »

That is what happens when you take all the fun out of something. Like Risamay, I made some great friendships on those forums. So glad I was able to continue them elsewhere, especially considering how many have been banned.

Mantis · « **Reply #33 on:** June 30, 2011, 20:10 »

Hitler like behavior over there makes it un-fun to even post anything for fear of retribution.

Larry · « **Reply #34 on:** June 30, 2011, 21:08 »

The forums are not useful anymore.

Graffoto · « **Reply #35 on:** June 30, 2011, 22:12 »

Quote from: Larry on June 30, 2011, 21:08

Lobo has killed off the forums. For no reason, really: he is not acting responsibly when you consider the contributors he locks out are paying his salary. There is really no reason for him to have a job at iStockphoto. It's a giant slam to the people who carry the weight. Occasionally, a thread needs to be stopped, but he abuses the job in a really serious way. Inexcusable. The management is looking really bad to leave him at that post. He needs to go get a job at Burger King.

Is he possibly quenching any and all discordant viewpoints at the request of management ie Getty?
I for one suspect that he is. I have worked for almost 30 years at a company that religiously makes everyone toe the company line.
Contrary viewpoints are only verbalized in the most hushed tones possible. "The walls have ears" is an often heard phrase.

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