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« Reply #225 on: May 19, 2013, 14:23 »
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I'm sure 38c a whack (for at least some sales) doesn't sustain a film star lifestyle, even with Yuri's sales.

location location location !

no idea about CapeTown, but you can buy a similar villa with seaview and small swimming pool in Thailand for as low as 2-300K $.

Believe me, the area his house is located at isn't as cheap as you might think!


OM

« Reply #226 on: May 19, 2013, 14:59 »
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to me it sounds like a super fake.

Yuri's father ? hahaha ....


on that we agree, just that ;D


Oh well - everybody always just seems to want to read their own words. If you dont know, why write?
Dhoxax IS Yuris father.



Dhoxax has the same images in his port as Steen Wackerhausen does over on Stock Fresh (so they appear to be the same person).   According to the wikipedia (I know, I know), Steen Wackerhausen is Yuri's father.    I am sure someone better at Google reseach can dig more correlations out than me.   

https://stockfresh.com/gallery/StonyArt
http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-uVista.html

Of course, for all I know, "Wackerhausen" is as common of a name in Danish as "Smith" is in the states and its just a coincidence.   But it seems legit on the surface.


And if you look back to the very early pictures in the Vista portfolio, you'll notice a number of buildings which belong to the University of Aarhus at which Yuri's father works. Proves little though especially if the images were planted there in 2005 in the event that they may be needed at some point in the future to convince doubters on MSG that it really is Yuri's dad! LOL.

« Reply #227 on: May 19, 2013, 15:35 »
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Oh, and there's still the little matter of this:
http://peopleimages.com/

So, I don't think so.


Actually, on Dreamstime you can be exclusive AND sell your images on your own website.

I don't know the terms of exclusivity at Istock, but maybe it's the same situation or he got a pass.

KB

« Reply #228 on: May 19, 2013, 15:36 »
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Yuris father wrote on the SS forum saying he is leaving too. He mentioned yuri had 3-4000 dls  a day

Can anyone trust that? SS forums have more attention seeking creep(ier) lunatics than crossdressers' board. : )

And there are some over there that regard over here in exactly the same way.......prefix 'crossdressers' with 'psychotic'.  ;D

The phrase I read was " the MSG zoo for a bunch of anonymous nobodies". I resemble that remark.  ;D

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #229 on: May 19, 2013, 15:39 »
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Oh, and there's still the little matter of this:
http://peopleimages.com/

So, I don't think so.


Actually, on Dreamstime you can be exclusive AND sell your images on your own website.

I don't know the terms of exclusivity at Istock, but maybe it's the same situation or he got a pass.


Exclusives specifically may not sell RF from their own sites (point 2b), so he presumably 'got a pass'. He wouldn't be the first.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2013, 16:00 by ShadySue »

aspp

« Reply #230 on: May 19, 2013, 15:59 »
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The phrase I read was " the MSG zoo for a bunch of anonymous nobodies".


That guy is hilarious. Really good value and an absolute gentleman. But his criticism is ironic given that (he said) that it was not always actually him posting. They used to post here. Sometimes they got quite heated.

Eg. http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/istockphoto-down-for-maintenance-or-hacked/msg229801/

OM

« Reply #231 on: May 19, 2013, 16:19 »
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Yuris father wrote on the SS forum saying he is leaving too. He mentioned yuri had 3-4000 dls  a day

Can anyone trust that? SS forums have more attention seeking creep(ier) lunatics than crossdressers' board. : )

And there are some over there that regard over here in exactly the same way.......prefix 'crossdressers' with 'psychotic'.  ;D

The phrase I read was " the MSG zoo for a bunch of anonymous nobodies". I resemble that remark.  ;D

Apologies for inaccurate transcription. Just trying to capture the flavour of the disdain over there for here. ;D

The next time the SS VP's turn up here to explain something instead of on their own site, I think they should be welcomed to this zoo using the original quotation and forum post.  ;D

falstafff

    This user is banned.
« Reply #232 on: May 19, 2013, 16:32 »
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in my opinion, stocksy is a lost case already..

their timing is bad.

anything else is ok, and they've millions in the bank.

it's not a matter of bad execution or bad business plan.
it's alright from that perspective.

but the timing .. it's 2013 ... SS is the king of the hill, public company, millions at stake, the cheapest prices ever seen, bla bla bla.

how do they plan to compete in such an environment ? where exactly do they plan to set their market niche ? would the next Yuri Arcurs join them, and why ?

so far, it's just "vaporware".

even Tony Stone some time ago launched his micro agency or whatever, just to be never heard again, can't even remeber the name of the agency actually and we're talking of Tony Stone the "father" of stock photography !!!

No Tony Stone did not launch his own agency he was asked to be a consultant in a new launched agency, asked for advice thats all. He is not in favor of the micro model as such.

Poncke v2

« Reply #233 on: May 19, 2013, 16:38 »
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The phrase I read was " the MSG zoo for a bunch of anonymous nobodies".


That guy is hilarious. Really good value and an absolute gentleman. But his criticism is ironic given that (he said) that it was not always actually him posting. They used to post here. Sometimes they got quite heated.

Eg. http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/istockphoto-down-for-maintenance-or-hacked/msg229801/
I knew it!!!! That thread is hilarious. I remember it now.  I knew something was the matter with his posts on SS. One minute he is telling people they have bad manners and the next he is throwing out insults. Must be his personnel using his account.

« Reply #234 on: May 20, 2013, 01:19 »
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Believe me, the area his house is located at isn't as cheap as you might think!


well, there's an interesting (and a bit apocalyptic) article on today's BBC :



Do white people have a future in South Africa?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22554709

"Apartheid South Africa looked after white people and nobody else. Now some of its white communities face a level of deprivation, or of violence, which threatens their future in the country. "

« Reply #235 on: May 20, 2013, 01:56 »
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Believe me, the area his house is located at isn't as cheap as you might think!

well, there's an interesting (and a bit apocalyptic) article on today's BBC :

I thought John Simpson was a better journalist.

This is a country with millions of poor people. That some whites should become poor when no longer unfairly coddled is neither odd nor wrong. Nor is it news: I remember seeing a heartbreaking photo essay more than 10 years ago.

Farm murders are a difficult subject and they have several probable contributing factors, including farmers' sadly commonplace maltreatment of their labourers. That some farmers should be hated is unsurprising. Rural whites were, after all, a key racist constituency that elected apartheid governments and then gave support to the neo-Nazi AWB. And they often look like lonely islands of astounding and tempting wealth, relatively speaking, in a sea of rural squalor and exploitation.

Anyway, all these unfortunate whites that Simpson cites can number no more than 10% of the total. And Yuri, most certainly, is not and never will be among them.

Simpson seems to have swallowed the right-wing line unexamined.

If you want to read some apocalyptic material that actually contains intelligent thought, try Disgrace by JM Coetzee.



« Reply #236 on: May 20, 2013, 02:48 »
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Yuri was doing incredibly well.  He boasted in an article that he was making millions each year.  He wants to make even more.  So Getty must have paid him or I don't think he would be doing this.  So all your facts are wrong as usual.  Just because you want Yuri to be barely paying the bill doesn't make it a fact.  At any time he could of cut his costs to zero and just made millions each year from his portfolio for the rest of his life.  He's obviously more ambitious than that.

If you wanted to have any idea about the financial side of this business, you would do some research and use some actual facts instead of just making up what you would like to happen.

Hmmm. You say that but Yuri can't even afford to operate in his own country. He's had to leave his home in the idyllic country of Denmark (by many reports about the nicest place on earth to live) to set up shop in crime-ridden South Africa. By his own admission he can't afford the costs of doing business and paying taxes in Denmark.

Now he's even sold his soul to the devil and climbed into bed with Getty.

Wealth is supposed to bring freedom and choices isn't it? Seems to me that Yuri's 'wealth' has made him a prisoner of his own ambition and greed.

Not to turn this into a political discussion, but taxes in Denmark are incredibly high, sometimes up to 60-65% depending on your level of income. So, as a dane, I understand Yuri's move and in fact I encourage it.

« Reply #237 on: May 20, 2013, 02:51 »
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I think everyone is waiting more or less patiently for you to understand what you have read.

"are not suited for the kind of high production cost images we produce" - does not mean microstock is dead. It means that Yuri believes his work that is produced by a team of people at a high cost is better suited on agencies elsewhere.

Of course, it would help if the agency you are moving to actively wants your work and is willing to negotiate a special deal for you . . . which is what everyone, probably correctly, suspects.

By contrast, many of us don't produce high production cost work, much less have large agencies beating a path to our doors.

After the dust settles, business as usual.

For me, that's in around 5 minutes from now.

Can someone remind me how to set the ignore feature?

please bring me respect, unlike you and many others i've correctly predicted the outcome of microstock in the long term a long time ago.

now you dont want to hear the ugly truth, well dont shoot the messanger, you can only blame yourself if you bet the farm on micros and put all the eggs on istock.

it's funny that those like me are called "trolls" both here and on RM forums.

People won't pay more. They will skip it. If this wasn't true, there wouldn't be microstock companies.
Well that is not true.

michealo

« Reply #238 on: May 20, 2013, 03:42 »
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My guess is this isn't just about a % royalty or exclusivity. This is a takeoff of Yuri Inc, who either gets a lot of cash or a % stake in Getty ...

rubyroo

« Reply #239 on: May 20, 2013, 04:15 »
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Give me a meritocracy over a deal-based income any day.

As we all know, deals can suddenly be pulled out of the air that were never anticipated and can work against you.  Even where agreements are signed in triplicate, they can't anticipate every eventuality.

I hope it works out for Yuri at Getty, and I hope his absence from the indie market will allow the excellent work of others to rise to the top.  If everybody wins from this change, that can only be a good thing.

I'll keep my faith in a meritocracy though.  I much prefer the straightforwardness of knowing that my income depends only on the effort I put in, with no additional strings attached.

« Reply #240 on: May 20, 2013, 04:33 »
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My guess is this isn't just about a % royalty or exclusivity. This is a takeoff of Yuri Inc, who either gets a lot of cash or a % stake in Getty ...

Interesting thoughts but I don't think Yuri is in that league yet! The Getty family, Klein and Co have personal stakes supposedly valued in the $Billions. Yuri, at best, is in the very small millions.

« Reply #241 on: May 20, 2013, 04:48 »
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It'll just be an increase in the basic royalty, a blind eye turned to his own site and a guarantee that all the work goes into Sig+ and therefore duplicated onto Getty.

Infuriating, unfair and hypocritical on iStock's part, but perfectly understandable from Yuri's point of view.

rubyroo

« Reply #242 on: May 20, 2013, 04:56 »
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Actually, if you add to that an agreement that he can review all upcoming deals and choose to opt out as he sees fit, that would probably cover his end of things.

Ultimately, no doubt Yuri will do what works for Yuri and Getty will do what works for Getty.

I'm going to have have to stop thinking about this now and do what works for me.  :)

« Reply #243 on: May 20, 2013, 06:12 »
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New message to iStock, I will let you know the results

Hello,

Since Yuri is now exclusive and stated so himself, I have notice that he still has his "peopleimages" site up. I was wondering if I could sell my video's on my own site as I can see this is now an exclusive perk?  Thank-you

John

« Reply #244 on: May 20, 2013, 06:15 »
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Good luck with that!

« Reply #245 on: May 20, 2013, 06:41 »
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two entries on SS forum from Yuri's father

Well, now Yuri has left Shutterstock I can just as well reveal a few things. It is a long time ago since Yuri only had 1000 downloads a day at SS. A typical day at SS had between 3000-4000 downloads!! How do I know? Well, I introduced Yuri to SS. And I am Yuris dad - and very proud of my sons success!

By the way, Yuri is not the only one leaving SS. If you want to see my port, do it now. In some weeks it will be gone too! Time to say goodbye!

The best to all of you!

PS: Rinder99, thanks! You have always been fair to Yuri (and me) from the very beginning about 7-8 years ago.

Vista/Dhoxax


AND

Thanks for the nice words about my son Yuri (and my port)!

Why I leave too? Not so difficult to figure out really: I simply got an offer I could not refuse! Got It?

No, stock photography is only my hobby (though, a hobby with a nice income). In "real life" I work as an university professor and researcher.

The best to all of you!

Vista/Dhoxax .)

Well Vista/Dhoxax joined SS in June 2005 while Yuri joined SS in Feb 2005 but he is still claiming he introduced Yuri to SS.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2013, 06:56 by eclaire »

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #246 on: May 20, 2013, 06:48 »
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Well Vista/Dhoxax joined SS in June 2005 while Yuri joined SS in Feb 2005 but he is still claiming he introduced Yuri to SS.
I could suggest an agency to someone ('introduce' them) without using the agency myself. I did do it once, for someone with a narrow specialism.

« Reply #247 on: May 20, 2013, 06:57 »
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Well Vista/Dhoxax joined SS in June 2005 while Yuri joined SS in Feb 2005 but he is still claiming he introduced Yuri to SS.
I could suggest an agency to someone ('introduce' them) without using the agency myself. I did do it once, for someone with a narrow specialism.
sure he can but the whole thing is strange especially for a professor...

Poncke v2

« Reply #248 on: May 20, 2013, 07:01 »
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Written on Fri May 11, 2007 9:47 pm  by Yuri

Quote
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I am proud of being a microstock contributor and I truly believe in the microstock way of selling pictures. I do however believe that the general prices on pictures at microstock agencies will rise over the next couple of years and I believe we will see microstock prices merge with, or get close to, prices found at royalty manages sites. Because the quality of pictures accepted at microstock agencies today is at least as good as some of the royalty managed agencies I contribute to, I believe the prices in microstock are a bit too low right now. A person does not care if he has to pay $1 or $10 for a picture, as long as he likes it and as long as it fits his project. When the microstock industry realizes this, (such as Jon obviously has) they will start to generate massive income.

I had a meeting with C.. images in New York just a few months ago and became even more happy to be a microstocker. NO way could I accept or be a part of what was offered to me at this agency. Even dough you can find some of my pictures at some of the old school high priced agencies, this only generates about 15% of my total income. Microstock rocks!

Its all about adapting and making decisions that help your business, dont make decissions based on emotions or what you personally like best. Apple didnt become the company it is today if it hadnt followed a strict strategy and if you didnt agree with it, you were out. This is why businesses become successful.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #249 on: May 20, 2013, 07:07 »
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Well Vista/Dhoxax joined SS in June 2005 while Yuri joined SS in Feb 2005 but he is still claiming he introduced Yuri to SS.
I could suggest an agency to someone ('introduce' them) without using the agency myself. I did do it once, for someone with a narrow specialism.
sure he can but the whole thing is strange especially for a professor...
It would be extremely surprising for a professor here (due to lack for free time), but:
1. 'Professor' doesn't always mean the same in other countries. Sometimes it means an ordinary university lecturer (who would still normally be involved in heavy research/publicatihn activities). Sometimes it's used of a secondary school teacher, who again wouldn't have the time, except that:
2. I learned that some (all?) secondary teachers in Germany have a much smaller teaching hours commitment, which means that they have less prep and marking and much more time available to do it, so more free time. Maybe Denmark is the same (I have no idea.)
3. Maybe he's an emeritus professor or visiting professor, who gives occasional lectures but doesn't have to maintain his standing in producing new work.
4. Or ...
5. Your guess is as good as mine.


 

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