Author Topic: yuri arcurs is IS exclusive (Read 147152 times)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #325 on:** May 21, 2013, 12:22 »

Quote from: Xanox on May 21, 2013, 10:03

Quote from: gbalex on May 21, 2013, 09:52
Jon is a computer programmer first and a photographer based on the need to fill his new web application with content/images. He has a B.S., Computer Science 1997 and B.S. Mathematics 1997

he might be a photographer but he'll go down in history as the photographer who killed the value of stock photography thanks to his bulk subs deals.

seriously, who's worse ? getty acting as a monopoly or SS selling images for 0.30$ ?

kudos to his coding and entrepreneurial skills but i see no reason to see him as a positive figure in our industry, SS is nothing but the Walmart of stock.

DUDE once for all put in your head that you cannot bury microstock, it won't happen, adapt or quit!

if you are against it why don't you open an agency and do us all a big favor, not talking about the sales you will get us but the less complaining you will do in this forum

Poncke v2 · « **Reply #326 on:** May 21, 2013, 12:43 »

Quote from: ShadySue on May 21, 2013, 11:52

Quote from: gbalex on May 21, 2013, 11:40
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t241347-looking-for-licenses-to-redistribute-stock-photog.html

He's got a big hole to fill.

posted 2003

gbalex · « **Reply #327 on:** May 21, 2013, 12:54 »

Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 12:43

Quote from: ShadySue on May 21, 2013, 11:52
Quote from: gbalex on May 21, 2013, 11:40
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t241347-looking-for-licenses-to-redistribute-stock-photog.html

He's got a big hole to fill.
posted 2003

It has always been about the math, the PR is just a means to obtain the intended results.

Digital66 · « **Reply #328 on:** May 21, 2013, 12:59 »

Quote from: Xanox on May 21, 2013, 10:03

Quote from: gbalex on May 21, 2013, 09:52
Jon is a computer programmer first and a photographer based on the need to fill his new web application with content/images. He has a B.S., Computer Science 1997 and B.S. Mathematics 1997
he might be a photographer but he'll go down in history as the photographer who killed the value of stock photography thanks to his bulk subs deals.

seriously, who's worse ? getty acting as a monopoly or SS selling images for 0.30$ ?

kudos to his coding and entrepreneurial skills but i see no reason to see him as a positive figure in our industry, SS is nothing but the Walmart of stock.

That's true! He's done a big damage in the industry.

It's good to see Yuri's work is not available at SS anymore. It's kind of sad to see photographers with high quality portfolios selling their images for just a few cents. If I ever had no choice, and had to sell images on SS to make some money, it would only be my isolated-on-white shots and other similar garbage.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #329 on:** May 21, 2013, 13:10 »

Quote from: Digital66 on May 21, 2013, 12:59

Quote from: Xanox on May 21, 2013, 10:03
Quote from: gbalex on May 21, 2013, 09:52
Jon is a computer programmer first and a photographer based on the need to fill his new web application with content/images. He has a B.S., Computer Science 1997 and B.S. Mathematics 1997
he might be a photographer but he'll go down in history as the photographer who killed the value of stock photography thanks to his bulk subs deals.

seriously, who's worse ? getty acting as a monopoly or SS selling images for 0.30$ ?

kudos to his coding and entrepreneurial skills but i see no reason to see him as a positive figure in our industry, SS is nothing but the Walmart of stock.
That's true! He's done a big damage in the industry.

It's good to see Yuri's work is not available at SS anymore. It's kind of sad to see photographers with high quality portfolios selling their images for just a few cents. If I ever had no choice, and had to sell images on SS to make some money, it would only be my isolated-on-white shots and other similar garbage.

thank god IS is giving what you want

sharpshot · « **Reply #330 on:** May 21, 2013, 13:32 »

Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 06:19

Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 06:10
I don't get how Yuri was feeling the pinch earning millions a year? He was doing great, unless he made it all up for that magazine article recently? This is just a way for him to make even more money. That's his choice, I'm sure we all have a price to sell out to Getty
LOL, he is staffing 100 people. He said himself micros where not enough compensation for the overhead he has on the books. Its somewhere on page 1-3 of this thread.

In that article, Yuri was talking about how much he makes in profit, not turnover. I can't remember exactly what it was, I think he was saying several million. That's with all the overheads, he could cut them whenever he wanted but I don't think he's doing this just for the money. I think he wants to see how big he can grow the business and a big cash injection from Getty will help. I can't think of any other reason why he would want to stick all his eggs in one basket.

eclaire · « **Reply #331 on:** May 21, 2013, 13:35 »

Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 13:32

Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 06:19
Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 06:10
I don't get how Yuri was feeling the pinch earning millions a year? He was doing great, unless he made it all up for that magazine article recently? This is just a way for him to make even more money. That's his choice, I'm sure we all have a price to sell out to Getty
LOL, he is staffing 100 people. He said himself micros where not enough compensation for the overhead he has on the books. Its somewhere on page 1-3 of this thread.
I put a link on here somewhere not long ago where Yuri was talking in a magazine article about how much he makes, profit, not turnover. I can't remember exactly what it was, I think he was saying several million. That's with all the overheads, he could cut them whenever he wanted but I don't think he's doing this just for the money. I think he wants to see how big he can grow the business and a big cash injection from Getty will help. I can't think of any other reason why he would want to stick all his eggs in one basket.

Don't believe every marketing blub!

Poncke v2 · « **Reply #332 on:** May 21, 2013, 13:44 »

Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 13:32

Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 06:19
Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 06:10
I don't get how Yuri was feeling the pinch earning millions a year? He was doing great, unless he made it all up for that magazine article recently? This is just a way for him to make even more money. That's his choice, I'm sure we all have a price to sell out to Getty
LOL, he is staffing 100 people. He said himself micros where not enough compensation for the overhead he has on the books. Its somewhere on page 1-3 of this thread.

In that article, Yuri was talking about how much he makes in profit, not turnover. I can't remember exactly what it was, I think he was saying several million. That's with all the overheads, he could cut them whenever he wanted but I don't think he's doing this just for the money. I think he wants to see how big he can grow the business and a big cash injection from Getty will help. I can't think of any other reason why he would want to stick all his eggs in one basket.

That was then this is now:

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on May 18, 2013, 01:31

Hi Guys.
We have found a good distribution partner (Getty Images) for the kind of content we produce. We will be removing all images from microstock doing the next few weeks. Microstock, especially subscription sites, are not suited for the kind of high production cost images we produce.
Best Yuri

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/yuri-arcurs-is-is-exclusive/msg317436/#msg317436

sharpshot · « **Reply #333 on:** May 21, 2013, 14:04 »

Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 13:44

Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 13:32
Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 06:19
Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 06:10
I don't get how Yuri was feeling the pinch earning millions a year? He was doing great, unless he made it all up for that magazine article recently? This is just a way for him to make even more money. That's his choice, I'm sure we all have a price to sell out to Getty
LOL, he is staffing 100 people. He said himself micros where not enough compensation for the overhead he has on the books. Its somewhere on page 1-3 of this thread.

In that article, Yuri was talking about how much he makes in profit, not turnover. I can't remember exactly what it was, I think he was saying several million. That's with all the overheads, he could cut them whenever he wanted but I don't think he's doing this just for the money. I think he wants to see how big he can grow the business and a big cash injection from Getty will help. I can't think of any other reason why he would want to stick all his eggs in one basket.
That was then this is now:

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on May 18, 2013, 01:31
Hi Guys.
We have found a good distribution partner (Getty Images) for the kind of content we produce. We will be removing all images from microstock doing the next few weeks. Microstock, especially subscription sites, are not suited for the kind of high production cost images we produce.
Best Yuri

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/yuri-arcurs-is-is-exclusive/msg317436/#msg317436

It was only a couple of months ago. So what's changed? I'm guessing a big bag of money from Getty but of course that's just me being silly.

falstafff · « **Reply #334 on:** May 21, 2013, 14:14 »

Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 13:32

Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 06:19
Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 06:10
I don't get how Yuri was feeling the pinch earning millions a year? He was doing great, unless he made it all up for that magazine article recently? This is just a way for him to make even more money. That's his choice, I'm sure we all have a price to sell out to Getty
LOL, he is staffing 100 people. He said himself micros where not enough compensation for the overhead he has on the books. Its somewhere on page 1-3 of this thread.
In that article, Yuri was talking about how much he makes in profit, not turnover. I can't remember exactly what it was, I think he was saying several million. That's with all the overheads, he could cut them whenever he wanted but I don't think he's doing this just for the money. I think he wants to see how big he can grow the business and a big cash injection from Getty will help. I can't think of any other reason why he would want to stick all his eggs in one basket.

Dollars!

eclaire · « **Reply #335 on:** May 21, 2013, 14:15 »

Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 14:04

Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 13:44
Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 13:32
Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 06:19
Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 06:10
I don't get how Yuri was feeling the pinch earning millions a year? He was doing great, unless he made it all up for that magazine article recently? This is just a way for him to make even more money. That's his choice, I'm sure we all have a price to sell out to Getty
LOL, he is staffing 100 people. He said himself micros where not enough compensation for the overhead he has on the books. Its somewhere on page 1-3 of this thread.

In that article, Yuri was talking about how much he makes in profit, not turnover. I can't remember exactly what it was, I think he was saying several million. That's with all the overheads, he could cut them whenever he wanted but I don't think he's doing this just for the money. I think he wants to see how big he can grow the business and a big cash injection from Getty will help. I can't think of any other reason why he would want to stick all his eggs in one basket.
That was then this is now:

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on May 18, 2013, 01:31
Hi Guys.
We have found a good distribution partner (Getty Images) for the kind of content we produce. We will be removing all images from microstock doing the next few weeks. Microstock, especially subscription sites, are not suited for the kind of high production cost images we produce.
Best Yuri

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/yuri-arcurs-is-is-exclusive/msg317436/#msg317436

It was only a couple of months ago. So what's changed? I'm guessing a big bag of money from Getty but of course that's just me being silly.

If you know you have a meeting with Getty what would you do? Telling the interviewer you have problems with overheads and diminishing profits or that you are making millions in profit?

sharpshot · « **Reply #336 on:** May 21, 2013, 14:19 »

So he made it all up to get a better deal with Getty? If they were that stupid, he would be just as stupid to go exclusive with them

topol · « **Reply #337 on:** May 21, 2013, 14:21 »

Quote from: loop on May 21, 2013, 11:12

Quote from: topol on May 21, 2013, 11:06
Quote from: Xanox on May 21, 2013, 10:03
he might be a photographer but he'll go down in history as the photographer who killed the value of stock photography thanks to his bulk subs deals.

seriously, who's worse ? getty acting as a monopoly or SS selling images for 0.30$ ?

kudos to his coding and entrepreneurial skills but i see no reason to see him as a positive figure in our industry, SS is nothing but the Walmart of stock.

I got the lowest ever comissions, 9-7 cents from the getty/istock crooks... and getty is into nanopayment now, with that 'connect' junk - which actually is the final rock bottom everyone feared they will hit: the ad-space revenue model. Getty is the worst by far.

Fair or unfair, Connect is not for selling photos, just for showing them.

In case you didn't know: you don't sell photos on stock sites, you sell licenses (which basically means you allow someone else to show them around.) so this is another license, the puniest yet.

eclaire · « **Reply #338 on:** May 21, 2013, 14:26 »

Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 14:19

So he made it all up to get a better deal with Getty? If they were that stupid, he would be just as stupid to go exclusive with them

He didn't make all up, and I haven't said that but he did marketing from time to time.

gbalex · « **Reply #339 on:** May 21, 2013, 14:33 »

Quote from: eclaire on May 21, 2013, 14:15

Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 14:04
Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 13:44
Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 13:32
Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 21, 2013, 06:19
Quote from: sharpshot on May 21, 2013, 06:10
I don't get how Yuri was feeling the pinch earning millions a year? He was doing great, unless he made it all up for that magazine article recently? This is just a way for him to make even more money. That's his choice, I'm sure we all have a price to sell out to Getty
LOL, he is staffing 100 people. He said himself micros where not enough compensation for the overhead he has on the books. Its somewhere on page 1-3 of this thread.

In that article, Yuri was talking about how much he makes in profit, not turnover. I can't remember exactly what it was, I think he was saying several million. That's with all the overheads, he could cut them whenever he wanted but I don't think he's doing this just for the money. I think he wants to see how big he can grow the business and a big cash injection from Getty will help. I can't think of any other reason why he would want to stick all his eggs in one basket.
That was then this is now:

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on May 18, 2013, 01:31
Hi Guys.
We have found a good distribution partner (Getty Images) for the kind of content we produce. We will be removing all images from microstock doing the next few weeks. Microstock, especially subscription sites, are not suited for the kind of high production cost images we produce.
Best Yuri

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/yuri-arcurs-is-is-exclusive/msg317436/#msg317436

It was only a couple of months ago. So what's changed? I'm guessing a big bag of money from Getty but of course that's just me being silly.

If you know you have a meeting with Getty what would you do? Telling the interviewer you have problems with overheads and diminishing profits or that you are making millions in profit?

I am always amazed at how many people buy the PR from both the micro sites and contributors who promote themselves.

We should ask ourselves what are they trying to accomplish and why.

Xanox · « **Reply #340 on:** May 21, 2013, 14:52 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on May 21, 2013, 12:22

DUDE once for all put in your head that you cannot bury microstock, it won't happen, adapt or quit!

if you are against it why don't you open an agency and do us all a big favor, not talking about the sales you will get us but the less complaining you will do in this forum

you're missing the point.

stock photography exists only as long as photographers can make a living with it.

once only a handful or CEOs and shareholders and agency owners can live off photography the party will be over including me and you.

i know musicians, journalists, bloggers, and other people living off digital products, now they're all in deep sh-it financially and you can bet we're next on the list.

i've many other marketable skills apart stock photography but if possible i want to keep my career as a creative and an artist, and this is no more possible in so many creative fields because of the rock bottom cheap fees paid by major corporations and distributors.

those like you defending the microstock model of agencies like Shutterstock are equally responsible for what will be the situation in a few years and you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

i've nothing else to say in this discussion .. and after all this is a pro-micro forum of course.

bye bye

gostwyck · « **Reply #341 on:** May 21, 2013, 14:55 »

Quote from: Xanox on May 21, 2013, 14:52

i've nothing else to say in this discussion

Please let this be true.

loop · « **Reply #342 on:** May 21, 2013, 15:00 »

Quote from: topol on May 21, 2013, 14:21

Quote from: loop on May 21, 2013, 11:12
Quote from: topol on May 21, 2013, 11:06
Quote from: Xanox on May 21, 2013, 10:03
he might be a photographer but he'll go down in history as the photographer who killed the value of stock photography thanks to his bulk subs deals.

seriously, who's worse ? getty acting as a monopoly or SS selling images for 0.30$ ?

kudos to his coding and entrepreneurial skills but i see no reason to see him as a positive figure in our industry, SS is nothing but the Walmart of stock.

I got the lowest ever comissions, 9-7 cents from the getty/istock crooks... and getty is into nanopayment now, with that 'connect' junk - which actually is the final rock bottom everyone feared they will hit: the ad-space revenue model. Getty is the worst by far.

Fair or unfair, Connect is not for selling photos, just for showing them.

In case you didn't know: you don't sell photos on stock sites, you sell licenses (which basically means you allow someone else to show them around.) so this is another license, the puniest yet.

If you really think it is the same, no need to try to explain it to you. It would be a worthless effort.

topol · « **Reply #343 on:** May 21, 2013, 15:28 »

Quote from: loop on May 21, 2013, 15:00

Quote from: topol on May 21, 2013, 14:21
Quote from: loop on May 21, 2013, 11:12
Quote from: topol on May 21, 2013, 11:06
Quote from: Xanox on May 21, 2013, 10:03
he might be a photographer but he'll go down in history as the photographer who killed the value of stock photography thanks to his bulk subs deals.

seriously, who's worse ? getty acting as a monopoly or SS selling images for 0.30$ ?

kudos to his coding and entrepreneurial skills but i see no reason to see him as a positive figure in our industry, SS is nothing but the Walmart of stock.

I got the lowest ever comissions, 9-7 cents from the getty/istock crooks... and getty is into nanopayment now, with that 'connect' junk - which actually is the final rock bottom everyone feared they will hit: the ad-space revenue model. Getty is the worst by far.

Fair or unfair, Connect is not for selling photos, just for showing them.

In case you didn't know: you don't sell photos on stock sites, you sell licenses (which basically means you allow someone else to show them around.) so this is another license, the puniest yet.

If you really think it is the same, no need to try to explain it to you. It would be a worthless effort.

You are very gullible, and there are a lot of you. That's why most things go downhill after a short while.

loop · « **Reply #344 on:** May 21, 2013, 15:57 »

Tunnel vision. And deciding what you are going to see before really looking. Too bad.

Elenathewise · « **Reply #345 on:** May 21, 2013, 17:39 »

I must admit I haven't read all 14 pages of this thread:) so forgive me if I am repeating what was said already. I remember Yuri was looking into exclusivity for a long time, he just didn't like the terms the agencies were willing to offer. I guess finally he got what he was looking for. Plus a few months ago he reported some legal trouble with certain eyewear company. From what I heard, if you're exclusive with Getty, they take care of things like that for you. So really it makes a lot of sense - instead of paying his own lawyers and technical stuff to upload images to many agencies he can cut costs and extra work and trouble and concentrate on whatever's next in his life. Yes it does mean having all eggs in one basket, but if I am sure he has a lot of padding now in case of any trouble.

Tryingmybest · « **Reply #346 on:** May 21, 2013, 19:09 »

I think you all should be less worried about Yuri and more worried about Adobe trying to force their rental program down our throats!

Sign the petition if agree: http://chn.ge/11YiakJ

Batman · « **Reply #347 on:** May 21, 2013, 19:45 »

Quote from: gostwyck on May 21, 2013, 14:55

Quote from: Xanox on May 21, 2013, 14:52
i've nothing else to say in this discussion

Please let this be true.

+1

My vote to say bye bye Xanox and leave this forum. Microstock will stay because crowdsoucing will always be here with digital camers and world market on the web. Microstock fills a demand market, it doesn't create that market.

THP Creative · « **Reply #348 on:** May 21, 2013, 22:05 »

No interest to get pulled into this debate, other than to say how happy teams like Andresr, Monkeybusiness, Pressmaster, etc must be! Greatest competition gone. Their earnings will no doubt grow hugely on the back of this.

Who will emerge as the next #1 in microstock?

falstafff · « **Reply #349 on:** May 21, 2013, 23:47 »

Another quite worrying thought. Maybe Yuri have heard or know something about the future of SS that we do not know? visiting their own forum its quite clear something is not right and have not been for many months. Many people are truly unhappy.

Its also very true as one poster points out. Many of these prominent members and special portfolios have been looking in to exclusivity for some years now but probably halted by the ongoing IS-Getty troubles. You do not have to go to the heights of Yuri to see this brewing its just enough to watch some other smaller stock-suppliers move and break away.

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Author Topic: yuri arcurs is IS exclusive (Read 147152 times)

luissantos84

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eclaire

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sharpshot

falstafff

eclaire

sharpshot

topol

eclaire

gbalex

Xanox

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loop

topol

loop

Elenathewise

Tryingmybest

Batman

THP Creative

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