Author Topic: Yuri hasn't opted a single file in the P+ (Read 12132 times)

jamirae · « **Reply #25 on:** May 28, 2011, 19:27 »

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on May 28, 2011, 10:40

Quote from: helix7 on May 28, 2011, 09:25

istock's prices are already too high.

Istock's prices are often higher but not always. Here's a SpiderPic comparison.

Interesting that CanStockPhoto almost always has the cheapest pricing and they're also one of the sites that's ranked as worst sales/earner for contributors. Wonder why.

And if you have an image at multiple sites and suddenly buyers all flock to CanStockPhoto how would that affect your earnings?

is that comparison on all the same size image? just checking.

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #26 on:** May 28, 2011, 19:35 »

That's just an example page. If you do an actual search it will show the pricing of all sizes for the sites the image is available at. Pretty slick tool for buyers but may not be a good thing for contributors.

asiseeit · « **Reply #27 on:** May 28, 2011, 22:07 »

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on May 28, 2011, 19:35

That's just an example page. If you do an actual search it will show the pricing of all sizes for the sites the image is available at. Pretty slick tool for buyers but may not be a good thing for contributors.

Just did a quick search and drilled down to a popular photo, and for XS through L, iStock was the cheapest out of the 4 agencies. Sure didn't expect that. And $11 for a XS on dreamstime?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 28, 2011, 23:05 »

Quote from: asiseeit on May 28, 2011, 22:07

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on May 28, 2011, 19:35
That's just an example page. If you do an actual search it will show the pricing of all sizes for the sites the image is available at. Pretty slick tool for buyers but may not be a good thing for contributors.

Just did a quick search and drilled down to a popular photo, and for XS through L, iStock was the cheapest out of the 4 agencies. Sure didn't expect that. And $11 for a XS on dreamstime?

because of the level system

Gannet77 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 29, 2011, 06:22 »

Not sure how accurate that comparison really is though - if you take one example, the one of the woman in a spa by Yuri, we see that the Canstock one at XL size is indeed $5 (see http://www.canstockphoto.com/young-female-at-the-day-spa-1756563.html) but the iStock one at the same size would normally be 25 credits (though it's on sale just now at 20 credits) - see http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-5635221-young-female-at-the-day-spa.php - the actual price would depend on the credit package, but I would have thought it would normally be less than $38, even at regular prices.

It's also strange to me that, if the iStock one is so expensive, it has sold more than 500 times while the Canstock one has only been downloaded once? I guess buyers just don't look around as much as I would expect them to!

Note too that the contributor would make more, even at 15%, from the iStock one (if it cost $38) than the buyer actually pays for the image on Canstock!

Makes me wonder why anyone would upload to Canstock really... but perhaps that image isn't typical.

microstockphoto.co.uk · « **Reply #30 on:** May 29, 2011, 06:40 »

Quote from: Gannet77 on May 29, 2011, 06:22

Makes me wonder why anyone would upload to Canstock really...

Because as you imply it's difficult to compare current prices, let alone future ones.

And because mid-tiers plus some low-tiers can easily account for 20%+ of total earnings. Not easy to dismiss, especially now that sales are falling at Istock.

So - if one chooses to be independend - s/he'd better upload everywhere unless a site is really bad (i.e., untrustful or too cheap). Which is not the case with Canstock luckily. There are also some very decent partner sales now and then.

ShadySue · « **Reply #31 on:** May 29, 2011, 06:55 »

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on May 28, 2011, 19:35

That's just an example page. If you do an actual search it will show the pricing of all sizes for the sites the image is available at. Pretty slick tool for buyers but may not be a good thing for contributors.

But it doesn't take into account (presumably) the prices of credit bundles at iStock, which as we know can be much lower even than their stated "credits as low as ..."
Maybe the other sites also have bulk discounts or some other deviance from a flat rate.
I guess iStock isn't that interested in one-off buyers (though today's one-off buyer may be a bulk buyer further down the line).
Can that comparison site take bulk discounts etc into account? not to mention all the 20% offers etc thrown out by iStock and presumably also by rival sites?

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #32 on:** May 29, 2011, 07:42 »

Quote from: ShadySue on May 29, 2011, 06:55

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on May 28, 2011, 19:35
That's just an example page. If you do an actual search it will show the pricing of all sizes for the sites the image is available at. Pretty slick tool for buyers but may not be a good thing for contributors.
But it doesn't take into account (presumably) the prices of credit bundles at iStock, which as we know can be much lower even than their stated "credits as low as ..."
Maybe the other sites also have bulk discounts or some other deviance from a flat rate.
I guess iStock isn't that interested in one-off buyers (though today's one-off buyer may be a bulk buyer further down the line).
Can that comparison site take bulk discounts etc into account? not to mention all the 20% offers etc thrown out by iStock and presumably also by rival sites?

It's just based on credits which doesn't really give true cost. Cost per credit is different at each site.

I did a few searches and was surprised to see Istock wasn't the most expensive about half the time.

helix7 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 29, 2011, 09:29 »

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on May 28, 2011, 10:40

Quote from: helix7 on May 28, 2011, 09:25

istock's prices are already too high.

Istock's prices are often higher but not always. Here's a SpiderPic comparison...

The perception of buyers is getting to be that prices are too high at istock, even if they aren't always. Vetta and Agency aren't helping with the high-priced perception. Few buyers know about or use tools like SpiderPic to shop around.

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on May 28, 2011, 10:40

...And if you have an image at multiple sites and suddenly buyers all flock to CanStockPhoto how would that affect your earnings?

I sell vectors, so the price differences from one site to another usually aren't so extreme. I also don't sell at CanStock. But if buyers did flock to another site I sell at, in most cases it would be a good thing for me. Buyers moving to sites like StockFresh and GraphicLeftovers would put more money in my pocket with each sale.

Besides, we both know buyers won't move in any large enough numbers to make a difference to either of us. Despite the high prices, a lot of people will stick with istock. Much as I say I'd like to see some istock traffic shifted to some of the other sites, you and I both stay in business because buyers tend to be creatures of habit. If they weren't and all went to CanStock, we'd all be looking for new jobs.

Slovenian · « **Reply #34 on:** May 29, 2011, 09:50 »

Perhaps Yuri is not just all about the money any more, but also about the position. That way he'll increase the gap between him and the second (on IS for instance). He'd definitely see a drop in DLs if he opted in his whole quota. It's like old billionairs, it's not really about the money anymore, since they couldn't spend what they had already 20 years ago in 100 life times, but it's a challenge, it's all about success. It's like a game to them, they get addicted to success. Kinda sick, but that's how it is, some are just never satisfied and happy (not saying that about Yuri, I don't even know if that's the case, but about some ultra successful ppl).

lagereek · « **Reply #35 on:** May 29, 2011, 09:53 »

Poking your nose into others business could be somewhat dangerous.

Slovenian · « **Reply #36 on:** May 29, 2011, 10:02 »

Quote from: lagereek on May 29, 2011, 09:53

Poking your nose into others business could be somewhat dangerous.

It's not just other ppl's (business), he's a public person. He wants to be a public person (there really are no unwanted public persons) and is doing everything he can to get as much publicity as he possibly can. So I have every "right"

lthn · « **Reply #37 on:** May 29, 2011, 11:04 »

Quote from: Slovenian on May 29, 2011, 09:50

Perhaps Yuri is not just all about the money any more, but also about the position. That way he'll increase the gap between him and the second (on IS for instance). He'd definitely see a drop in DLs if he opted in his whole quota. It's like old billionairs, it's not really about the money anymore, since they couldn't spend what they had already 20 years ago in 100 life times, but it's a challenge, it's all about success. It's like a game to them, they get addicted to success. Kinda sick, but that's how it is, some are just never satisfied and happy (not saying that about Yuri, I don't even know if that's the case, but about some ultra successful ppl).

I don't think he's that rich. Looks like he really does love to shoot stock, especially on beautiful locations, so he's on a constant holiday with his job.

Slovenian · « **Reply #38 on:** May 29, 2011, 18:14 »

Quote from: lthn on May 29, 2011, 11:04

Quote from: Slovenian on May 29, 2011, 09:50
Perhaps Yuri is not just all about the money any more, but also about the position. That way he'll increase the gap between him and the second (on IS for instance). He'd definitely see a drop in DLs if he opted in his whole quota. It's like old billionairs, it's not really about the money anymore, since they couldn't spend what they had already 20 years ago in 100 life times, but it's a challenge, it's all about success. It's like a game to them, they get addicted to success. Kinda sick, but that's how it is, some are just never satisfied and happy (not saying that about Yuri, I don't even know if that's the case, but about some ultra successful ppl).

I don't think he's that rich. Looks like he really does love to shoot stock, especially on beautiful locations, so he's on a constant holiday with his job.

That would be a winning mentality, for me at least. That's what I'd do if I were successful in stock. Enjoy life, travel around and shoot what I want and the way I want to. Getting as much DLs as possible and working my a$$ off wouldn't be a priority any more (because even if he stopped shooting he'd earn some nice cash for years to come and wouldn't have any expenses any more - he'd actually earn extra cash by selling all of his studios and gear).

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Author Topic: Yuri hasn't opted a single file in the P+ (Read 12132 times)

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