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« on: February 01, 2013, 07:16 »
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Just discovered that you can now add photographs from Google Drive and Instagram to products on Zazzle. I assume store owners on Zazzle will be able to make money on anything on GD. Just click on "create" and away you go. Unbelievable!


« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 07:36 »
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The floodgates have been opened, it will go viral faster that the lastest kitty vid.  >:(

« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 07:40 »
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I can't find a way to select Google drive stock images.  I think it wants images from the "drive" for your computer.  Can you post a process?

« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 07:50 »
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I think you have to have a folder of saved images from Google Drive ahead of time. So go to Create tab > choose product > create > select image > then you have four options: pull an image from My Computer, My Images, Google Drive, or Instagram. If you have images stored already, click on Images. I don't have images stored in GD so the Images link isn't active.

Hope this is what you were looking for. It's the middle of the night here and now I'm going to try to get some sleep. Probably won't happen after discovering this though.

Microbius

« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2013, 07:54 »
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Surely this can't be right?
I can't believe how bad this is getting!

« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2013, 08:13 »
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Surely this can't be right?
I can't believe how bad this is getting!

I know... I'm a little tech-challenged and was wondering if it really is true. Can't sleep...this is like a nightmare.

« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 08:23 »
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This is just the tip of the iceberg, more and more sites will do this as google have an open api to allow sites to utilise google docs/drive for  free  >:(

« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2013, 09:44 »
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I think you have to have a folder of saved images from Google Drive ahead of time. So go to Create tab > choose product > create > select image > then you have four options: pull an image from My Computer, My Images, Google Drive, or Instagram. If you have images stored already, click on Images. I don't have images stored in GD so the Images link isn't active.

Hope this is what you were looking for. It's the middle of the night here and now I'm going to try to get some sleep. Probably won't happen after discovering this though.

Yeah, no need to freak yet.  I think it's only things you have saved "locally" to your drive.  I can't find a way to just pull something from the "online" google drive.  I even tried creating a "drawing".

« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2013, 10:19 »
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Yeah, no need to freak yet.  I think it's only things you have saved "locally" to your drive.  I can't find a way to just pull something from the "online" google drive.  I even tried creating a "drawing".
When I select Google Drive I see a pop up where briefly (split second) a search field shows up which disappears again just to show you the contents of your Google Drive account.

I cannot select ANY general Google Drive archives, only personally uploaded content.

Microbius

« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2013, 10:23 »
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Glad it was a false alarm, we are all feeling really jumpy over this!

« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2013, 10:59 »
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O.K., well thanks for looking into it, guys. Since this is brand new on the Zazzle site, I hope it isn't that it's just not operational yet.

« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2013, 11:01 »
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It was operational, I did not click buy...

Edit: It looks that they are working on this API right now...
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 11:25 by a1bercik »

« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2013, 11:09 »
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They did have a new contributor agreement to sign recently and it looked to me that they were emphasising that people must own the copyright of the images they're using to sell products.  So hopefully this isn't going to be a problem.

« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2013, 11:19 »
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It was operational, I did not click buy...

Do you mean that you could upload a picture from Google Drive?

« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2013, 11:20 »
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They did have a new contributor agreement to sign recently and it looked to me that they were emphasising that people must own the copyright of the images they're using to sell products. 
Who had a new contributor agreement?

« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2013, 11:27 »
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I did when I signed in with Zazzle recently.

« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2013, 11:31 »
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I did when I signed in with Zazzle recently.

I'm sorry, I'm not following you...possibly because I hardly got any sleep last night. So you mean you recently joined Zazzle and there was a contributor agreement that you had to own the copyright to anything you used there? But the thing is, in the Google Drive deal, images are free to use commercially. It's a mixed message if nothing else.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2013, 14:17 by pegleg »

Batman

« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2013, 11:39 »
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They did have a new contributor agreement to sign recently and it looked to me that they were emphasising that people must own the copyright of the images they're using to sell products.  So hopefully this isn't going to be a problem.

Oh shucks I have to own my images to sell products. Made for idiot agreement maybe they need it.

I think you have to have a folder of saved images from Google Drive ahead of time. So go to Create tab > choose product > create > select image > then you have four options: pull an image from My Computer, My Images, Google Drive, or Instagram. If you have images stored already, click on Images. I don't have images stored in GD so the Images link isn't active.

Hope this is what you were looking for. It's the middle of the night here and now I'm going to try to get some sleep. Probably won't happen after discovering this though.

Yeah, no need to freak yet.  I think it's only things you have saved "locally" to your drive.  I can't find a way to just pull something from the "online" google drive.  I even tried creating a "drawing".

What people here not freaking about some mistake read of an announcement. That would be new. You can only use your own images.  Zazzle Media Browser is requesting permission to: View and manage the files and documents in your Google Drive

Your Google Drive

This is bad.  https://plus.google.com/+GoogleDrive/posts/6p2e3FTeKL4?e=EmbedsDocumentObject free images and they want more. What day is it.


« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2013, 11:53 »
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Yeah, no need to freak yet.  I think it's only things you have saved "locally" to your drive.  I can't find a way to just pull something from the "online" google drive.  I even tried creating a "drawing".
When I select Google Drive I see a pop up where briefly (split second) a search field shows up which disappears again just to show you the contents of your Google Drive account.

I cannot select ANY general Google Drive archives, only personally uploaded content.

I haven't tried using GD myself but as I understand comments from people who have, you can download high-res stock images from GD to your own computer, right? If so, what's to prevent you from uploading them to Zazzle from your hard drive?

I understand that this may violate Google's rule that you're only supposed to use the images within the GD program but there've been lots of comments about how the Google terms of use are rather vague and hard to find, so many GD users may well think it's okay to download them and use them elsewhere. Based on Google's statement that the images are okay for commercial use, it certainly doesn't seem impossible that some (many?) of these images might end up on Zazzle.

I don't know how vigorously Zazzle polices its policy that you can only use images to which you own the copyright. If they get a flood of people using GD images, will they go after them?

« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2013, 13:15 »
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I did when I signed in with Zazzle recently.


I'm sorry, I'm not following you...possibly because I hardly got any sleep last night. So you mean you recently joined Zazzle and there was a contributor agreement that you had to own the copyright to anything you used there? But the thing is, in the Google Drive deal, images are free to use commercially. It's a mixed message if nothing else.

I've now been banned from the Zazzle forum where I posted a thread about this issue. Figured that would happen.

I've been there for a long time but when I logged in recently there was message, something like if I continued, I agreed to these terms.  I clicked on the link and briefly read them before continuing.  This looks like it.
"As a guideline, you may contribute only original work that you have created yourself from original elements. This means you can't use images of celebrities or corporate products, nor images, text, or designs that you've copied from a website without written permission from the owner. You cannot create a "new" image using elements from images other people have created. You cannot contribute a quote or a slogan that is substantially the same as something already written by someone else. By uploading any Content, you represent and warrant that you have the lawful right to reproduce and distribute such Content and that the Content complies with all applicable federal, state and local laws, regulations and ordinances;"
http://www.zazzle.co.uk/mk/policy/user_agreement


« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2013, 13:27 »
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I did when I signed in with Zazzle recently.


I've been there for a long time but when I logged in recently there was message, something like if I continued, I agreed to these terms.  I clicked on the link and briefly read them before continuing.  This looks like it.
"As a guideline, you may contribute only original work that you have created yourself from original elements. This means you can't use images of celebrities or corporate products, nor images, text, or designs that you've copied from a website without written permission from the owner. You cannot create a "new" image using elements from images other people have created. You cannot contribute a quote or a slogan that is substantially the same as something already written by someone else. By uploading any Content, you represent and warrant that you have the lawful right to reproduce and distribute such Content and that the Content complies with all applicable federal, state and local laws, regulations and ordinances;"
http://www.zazzle.co.uk/mk/policy/user_agreement


Hmmm...well, I notice your link is for the UK site. I never saw any such agreement on the .com site.

« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2013, 13:30 »
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I haven't tried using GD myself but as I understand comments from people who have, you can download high-res stock images from GD to your own computer, right? If so, what's to prevent you from uploading them to Zazzle from your hard drive?

That's what I was wondering too. Wouldn't it be easy to do?

« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2013, 13:33 »
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From my experiences on Zazzle they seem to take copyright pretty seriously and the community there that is active on the forums is more knowledgeable than the average internet user.  You have to click a specific box agreeing that you own the copyright of materials/ have the legal right to use them for each product created.

In one case I found an image of mine being used improperly and when I contacted Zazzle by phone, I actually got a person to speak in the department that deals with copyright questions and the issue was resolved very quickly (within a day) and professionally.

Zazzle has big ongoing deals with companies like Disney and Marvel comics so they can't really afford to be slack on copyright violations.  You know how militant the Mouse can be. ;)

I hope that helps set some people at ease on this particular bit of the ordeal.  Some people may be smart/dumb enough to go to the trouble of finding, downloading, and saving images in their  Google Drive acct. but they would still have to blatantly ignore Zazzle's terms and risk Zazzle shutting them down as soon as it's seen or reported.

« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2013, 13:36 »
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From my experiences on Zazzle they seem to take copyright pretty seriously and the community there that is active on the forums is more knowledgeable than the average internet user.  You have to click a specific box agreeing that you own the copyright of materials/ have the legal right to use them for each product created.

In one case I found an image of mine being used improperly and when I contacted Zazzle by phone, I actually got a person to speak in the department that deals with copyright questions and the issue was resolved very quickly (within a day) and professionally.

Zazzle has big ongoing deals with companies like Disney and Marvel comics so they can't really afford to be slack on copyright violations.  You know how militant the Mouse can be. ;)

I hope that helps set some people at ease on this particular bit of the ordeal.  Some people may be smart/dumb enough to go to the trouble of finding, downloading, and saving images in their  Google Drive acct. but they would still have to blatantly ignore Zazzle's terms and risk Zazzle shutting them down as soon as it's seen or reported.

Thanks for this information. It's good to know that Zazzle, at least, might be on the ball and actually make an effort to protect our work.

ETA: I actually haven't looked at my Zazzle account for awhile but I hope to get back to it. How did you find the infringing use of one of your images? Is there an easy way to check Zazzle for this?

« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2013, 13:52 »
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I was just doing some random searches to see if there were similar products to what I was creating.  I was able to to easily check that that image hadn't had any extended license sales, so I gave them a  call and I just remember being really surprised when I got a real person on the line fairly quickly (and I was at night if I recall correctly) they were very pleasant and eager to help.  Then next day the product was gone.

I've also noticed on quite a few stores that use clip art type images you will see the store owner posting a message about using properly licensed clip art and a link to the artists whom they have deal with.

« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2013, 13:59 »
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From my experiences on Zazzle they seem to take copyright pretty seriously and the community there that is active on the forums is more knowledgeable than the average internet user.  You have to click a specific box agreeing that you own the copyright of materials/ have the legal right to use them for each product created.

Well, that's reassuring at least.

BTW, just a couple of days ago Zazzle was busy taking down any designs that had anything to do with Fender guitars. So I guess they're on top of copyright infringement.

« Last Edit: February 03, 2013, 08:02 by pegleg »

« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2013, 14:12 »
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I was just doing some random searches to see if there were similar products to what I was creating.  I was able to to easily check that that image hadn't had any extended license sales, so I gave them a  call and I just remember being really surprised when I got a real person on the line fairly quickly (and I was at night if I recall correctly) they were very pleasant and eager to help.  Then next day the product was gone.

I've also noticed on quite a few stores that use clip art type images you will see the store owner posting a message about using properly licensed clip art and a link to the artists whom they have deal with.

A bit confused here. Are you saying this was an iStock image that was infringed -- but it wouldn't have been if they'd purchased an extended license? I can't recall now if extended licenses allow purchasers to use the images for products like this.

I don't use any of my iStock images on Zazzle but I might in future use a couple that I plan to deactivate tomorrow.

« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2013, 14:18 »
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I'm wasn't exclusive so I had to check a couple of sites.  The extended license terms are slightly different everywhere but at the time I believe at least one of the sites I was with allowed print on demand use in a extended license for resale.  The image in question hadn't had anything but standard sales so I was sure it wasn't legit.  I don't think resale licenses that allow POD are very common.

« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2013, 14:32 »
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I'm wasn't exclusive so I had to check a couple of sites.  The extended license terms are slightly different everywhere but at the time I believe at least one of the sites I was with allowed print on demand use in a extended license for resale.  The image in question hadn't had anything but standard sales so I was sure it wasn't legit.  I don't think resale licenses that allow POD are very common.

Okay, thanks.


 

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