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Title: cake photography
Post by: eyeCatchLight on August 10, 2010, 23:25
Hi,

I have to do a cake photography job. Thing is I gotta do it tomorrow night (Wednesday), so I am looking for a simple lighting solution.

What about using a light tent/box?

Equipment:
- SB-900 flash
- 46" umbrella (reflector or shot-through)
- gold/white reflector
- light tent/box
- two light floods (something like this: http://www.opusprophoto.com/products/lighting_kits/hot_light_kits.html (http://www.opusprophoto.com/products/lighting_kits/hot_light_kits.html))
- cardboard various colours for backdrop

I can rent another flash and a softbox if needed.

The cakes are not high as far as I know. I guess I'd make a seamless backdrop on a table and against the wall. Color to decide. I would shoot from a relatively low viewpoint with a DOF so that it is nice and blurry but still visible what the cake looks like. What do you think? If the customer wants that I could also cut out a piece and bring it into the composition but I guess all the cutting would create ugly things.

I am just not sure about the lighting. Please help. :-)



Simone
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: eyeCatchLight on August 11, 2010, 01:28
2nd question: later i would like to use some of the shots for stock. how do i formulate that in the contract? I grant Royalty-Free rights to the client?

Thanks!
Simone
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: Pixart on August 11, 2010, 11:53
I have never tried to shoot food, but you have not received a reply and I have read a little bit about it....

I don't know about a light box.  Wouldn't the light be too even and flatten the details?

After a quick search on DT - look at these two and see where the light is coming from.  If you want to show the texture you need to use shadows.

http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-images-wedding-cake-image227679 (http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-images-wedding-cake-image227679)
http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-wedding-cake-image6527570 (http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-wedding-cake-image6527570)

-  You do not light food from the front - usually it is lit from behind. 
-  Rear/side lighting will bring out the nice detail in the frosting.  Front lighting will flatten it, and you will lose the detail that is found in the shadows. 
- That being said, you will likely need to throw a little fill in the front to reduce the shadows but a white board may be enough.
- if the ceiling is white you may be able to bounce a little light from the rear.

I'm not particularly fond of the lighting in this shot, but think about styling your photos as well, and the cake doesn't have to be the main subject.

http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photos-wedding-cake-image2836953 (http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photos-wedding-cake-image2836953)

Use a tripod, add elements to your background and foreground.  Even an out of focus fern off in the distance can make a photo much more pleasing.  Don't forget to take some closeups of the detail.  Your customer likely expects a nice shot of a cake perfectly centred in the frame with equal amounts of white space on each side.  You better take those, but I bet they will find the different croppings more compelling.
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: eyeCatchLight on August 12, 2010, 11:31
Hello,

thanks so much for your answer.
it had to be fast, and the client wanted white background...for a catalogue.
so this is the result, for a first time i guess it's ok and some of them really do work for stock i think. (have to remove logos and stuff)
http://eyecatchlight.zenfolio.com/p947849365 (http://eyecatchlight.zenfolio.com/p947849365)

Simone
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: lisafx on August 12, 2010, 14:11
Those look beautiful Simone!  Very well done :)
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: lefty on August 12, 2010, 14:21
The best technical question I find can get best answers on Istock. Food experts, or any technical question  on forumIstock  always get helpful answers. For me, I read best answers there always.
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on August 12, 2010, 14:30
You could do worse than looking at this portfolio:
http://www.istockphoto.com/user_view.php?id=944809 (http://www.istockphoto.com/user_view.php?id=944809)

He's made a big effort on shooting cakes (and other food).
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: gostwyck on August 12, 2010, 15:57
Very nice work there Simsi (and nice cakes too). You should be giving advice not asking for it.

For some reason I am reminded of the old joke;

How do you get a fat girl into bed? Piece of cake.
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: eyeCatchLight on August 12, 2010, 16:16

How do you get a fat girl into bed? Piece of cake.

HAHAAHHA. sorry. maybe i shouldn't laugh but it is funny.

that is why i am not fat. i wasn't even intrigued by those cakes....... everyone i showed the pics to would say... "OMG now i am hungry". Means I can be a food photographer without problems. Maybe that is why I am thin like bones :D.


thanks for the compliments!!! Nice to hear that from people like you. Well I've stepped up in level and have my photography service now, so I guess I'm kinda better. Thanks!!! :D :D

just one little question: would you rather send a plain cake without decoration or a decorated cake for iStock application?

Thanks! Simone
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: kimba on August 12, 2010, 18:27
Beautiful photos - can I ask what lighting you ended up using for them?
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: eyeCatchLight on August 12, 2010, 18:41
Beautiful photos - can I ask what lighting you ended up using for them?

well....white cardboard as background...
small speedlight for blowing out this white background (from left, didn't work out well :D)
main light: bigger speedlight with umbrella from rear right.
reflector gold (i liked the warm tone) from front left (opposite of main light), almost from 90 degrees at the left side.
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: MatHayward on August 12, 2010, 22:26
They look great, nice job!

Mat
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: delphinium on March 25, 2011, 22:08
These look beautiful and make me hungry. :)
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on March 25, 2011, 22:16
These look beautiful and make me hungry. :)
Can I ask you a question? How is it that new members are the only ones to dig up 6 month, 1 year, 5 year old threads? How does that happen? Just curious.
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: nruboc on March 25, 2011, 22:25
These look beautiful and make me hungry. :)
Can I ask you a question? How is it that new members are the only ones to dig up 6 month, 1 year, 5 year old threads? How does that happen? Just curious.

Most likely from 'Related Topics' - if you scroll down
Title: Re: cake photography
Post by: gostwyck on March 25, 2011, 23:01
Can I ask you a question? How is it that new members are the only ones to dig up 6 month, 1 year, 5 year old threads? How does that happen? Just curious.


I suspect the clue may lie within the phrase 'new member'. They simply don't have the peripheral vision to spot little things like the 'date' and stuff.