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« Reply #75 on: June 25, 2008, 07:15 »
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well i'm waiting to see some pictures from you guys, michaelo and faber!!!


« Reply #76 on: June 25, 2008, 09:37 »
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well i'm waiting to see some pictures from you guys, michaelo and faber!!!

I'm working day and night on these images.....so don't disrupt me..... :D

Seriously, I already uploaded some images (so far just travel images stuff because we have to wait for the releases). But....may I remind you that I'm not exclusive ;) and so it will take some time until the images are available (let's hope some of them will be accepted by inspectors).

But you can see the first Ref5esh images online by "gioadventures", his first event image is a very nice night shot.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2008, 09:39 by faber »

« Reply #77 on: July 02, 2008, 05:39 »
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Some photographers are carefully investigating what "micro boys", "idiots", "corporate slaves" like us are doing.....oh boy.... :)

http://www.alamy.com/forums/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=2448

istock, will you please stop organizing events at "holiday destinations", burning all the "photo opportunities" for these poor guys?

These discussions are so weird and illogical. Malta is burned now for photo opportunities? Yeah, it was a well hidden secret before....just 14.121 images at Alamy to compete with. And Alamy claims that  most of travel images sales are RM(L) editorial - no istock competition here.

Obviously microstock-phobia beats logic.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2008, 06:14 by faber »

« Reply #78 on: July 02, 2008, 06:02 »
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thanks for the link.  Looks like yet another micro vs macro (or perhaps more correctly put, micro vs alamy :)) heated debate!!...

here is the news story link
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080701/local/photogenic-malta-for-online-archive
« Last Edit: July 02, 2008, 06:04 by leaf »

« Reply #79 on: July 02, 2008, 06:05 »
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so how is the image editing going by the way?  I uploaded 20 today after we got the releases.. heres hoping they get accepted.

« Reply #80 on: July 02, 2008, 06:42 »
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so how is the image editing going by the way?  I uploaded 20 today after we got the releases.. heres hoping they get accepted.

Not too good, my Nikon (or me?) produced quite some back focus junk. But my Canon is back from service now and I'm busy shooting L-editorial for Alamy.

I also consider to grab my Canon and make another trip to Malta later this year (when it's a bit cooler there). I discovered so many nice L-editorial opportunities, maybe it's time to add some more images to the 14.121 at Alamy (no istock exclusivity ref5esh restrictions then for this future trip ...).
« Last Edit: July 02, 2008, 06:54 by faber »

« Reply #81 on: July 02, 2008, 06:45 »
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Wow they sound totally desperate and paranoid.  Jose Elias defended himself extremely well but I'd rather them think that we make a pittance here then less of them will decide to try the micros.

Some photographers are carefully investigating what "micro boys", "idiots", "corporate slaves" like us are doing.....oh boy.... :)

http://www.alamy.com/forums/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=2448

istock, will you please stop organizing events at "holiday destinations", burning all the "photo opportunities" for these poor guys?

These discussions are so weird and illogical. Malta is burned now for photo opportunities? Yeah, it was a well hidden secret before....just 14.121 images at Alamy to compete with. And Alamy claims that  most of travel images sales are RM(L) editorial - no istock competition here.

Obviously microstock-phobia beats logic.

michealo

« Reply #82 on: July 02, 2008, 07:27 »
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Most of my stuff is models, so have some in queue now, I suspect it will be weeks before I get it all uploaded.

My first rather ordinary picture from the trip is here

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/food-and-drink/alcohol/6494509-grapes-growing-in-vineyard.php?id=6494509
« Last Edit: July 02, 2008, 07:29 by michealo »

« Reply #83 on: July 08, 2008, 14:38 »
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Funny coincidence - since Malta my istock revenue is going down - and my shutterstock revenue is going up....if the trend continues July will be shutterstock-BME and istock-"worst month of the year".

Yeah, the gods of microstock are unpredictable....maybe I produced some bad karma in Malta.... :D

« Reply #84 on: July 08, 2008, 15:04 »
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mine has stayed about the same...  no malta pics online yet though.  Hopefully soon as they were uploaded a week ago tomorrow.


« Reply #85 on: July 08, 2008, 17:01 »
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Would someone who's registered point out to the tools over there that Yuri's #1 image has over 7k DLs?

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/health-and-beauty/fashion/2100749-businessteam.php?id=2100749

Someone on page 1 said it was 2100 and nobody corrected him.  Uninformed lahoosers.

« Reply #86 on: July 08, 2008, 17:09 »
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Would someone who's registered point out to the tools over there that Yuri's #1 image has over 7k DLs?

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/health-and-beauty/fashion/2100749-businessteam.php?id=2100749

Someone on page 1 said it was 2100 and nobody corrected him.  Uninformed lahoosers.


i don't think it is worth the bother to correct them.  They hate microstock.. end of story.  The longer they stay away the better.

« Reply #87 on: July 10, 2008, 02:00 »
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Ok.  finally a few pictures from malta








« Reply #88 on: July 10, 2008, 02:16 »
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Ok.  finally a few pictures from malta










Beautiful shots!!

« Reply #89 on: July 10, 2008, 10:38 »
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Ok.. just thought i woudl give the cost breakdown here.....

My costs for Istock malta Ref5esh   
flight - $455
hotel - $410
istock admission - $342
Food and Fun in malta - $195

Total - US $1403.52

Calculating that each image on istock earns me $10 over it's lifetime, I would need 140 images from this event to break even.  I am hoping these images will sell a lot better than the poor pictures I uploaded 2 years ago to istock... so perhaps I can expect $20/image average or more.

I was thinking to take the best 100 shots from the event, edit those and see how they sell.  I am not yet through the first two days and have over 20 so I don't think it will be a problem at all to find 100 shots.

iStock meant this event primarily to be a 'holiday' with shooting opportunities but I wanted to go as a business trip that was also a holiday.  It will be interesting to see how the images sell and how long it takes to get paid for a couple weeks of 'work' (weeks being 1 week in malta and 1 week editing)


« Reply #90 on: July 10, 2008, 12:33 »
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Leaf: great shots!

Hope they sell well and you can get a lot of return for your $ 1.403,52 investment. Maybe you can keep us updated about your race for "break even", I keep my fingers crossed, good luck/success!

« Reply #91 on: July 10, 2008, 16:36 »
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well no downloads yet, so I have a ways to go :)

« Reply #92 on: July 10, 2008, 17:13 »
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a little more portfolio pimping  :)

The first batch of uploads is now done being reviewed, and the reviewers were kind. 















OK... I'll stop now.

vonkara

« Reply #93 on: July 10, 2008, 19:39 »
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Wow and they were standing there letting you take pics of them. What a great event LOL. And how did they do with the releases? They was giving you them at the end?

The discussion on Alamy is very entertaining also. Thanks for linking!

« Reply #94 on: July 11, 2008, 00:56 »
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They sent us the releases after the event.... and lots of them

30 model releases for hired models / actors
30 model releases for a set of guards (these were combined into one)
48 model releases for attending people

a lot of work, and a lot of people that we had a chance to shoot.

michealo

« Reply #95 on: July 11, 2008, 14:30 »
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If any one is interested here is a lightbox of my images from Ref5esh - 12 so far

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_search.php?action=file&lightboxID=4379218

vonkara

« Reply #96 on: July 11, 2008, 14:57 »
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LOL they was good actors and to pass from sexy to angry to anxious. Do you guys were picking your models and then goes to a special place or they was already in place and waiting the photographers?

michealo

« Reply #97 on: July 11, 2008, 15:18 »
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For the lifestyle shoots it would generally be a creative director to help with setup and lights, 3 to 5 photographers and you would wander around the city with the models and find a place you wanted to shoot. It was pretty flexible, limited only by your imagination!

vonkara

« Reply #98 on: July 11, 2008, 15:27 »
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For the lifestyle shoots it would generally be a creative director to help with setup and lights, 3 to 5 photographers and you would wander around the city with the models and find a place you wanted to shoot. It was pretty flexible, limited only by your imagination!
Wow I can't imagine. It's like in my dreams LOL

« Reply #99 on: July 21, 2008, 10:19 »
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-> michealo
hey, I see first downloads of your Malta images - congrats!!


 

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