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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2009, 19:03 »
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well this seems like a lot better deal that any other site is offering.  So i say, well done pixart... at least they are showing a little initiative and belief in their own company.


RT


« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2009, 19:13 »
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So i say, well done pixart... at least they are showing a little initiative and belief in their own company.

But what are your views on Pixmac !

« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2009, 19:19 »
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I don't see how they will accept our images if they already have them through fotolia.  How is that going to work?

« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2009, 03:06 »
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Hello guys, this is Vitezslav from Pixmac,
I really love your quick response.

1. First of all our primary target is to let photographers experience Pixmac. We work every day to make it comfortable and easy to use. I am pretty sure, much more than others do! And to be honest, we want thousands of your photos. Not just some hundreds or 499 of them :-)

2. Yes we're a startup but we try really hard! You should compare our website on Alexa.com to Snapvillage or Yaymicro. In 6 months view we're growing pretty steadily, and them? More about that is here:
http://blog.pixmac.com/2009/01/27/pixmac-celebrates-again-and-gives-out-iphones-and-pictures/

3. If you're at FT, you can still try Pixmac with another pictures than those you have there. Just to taste the pink newcomer. Still its a company where one half is owned by a local media/content leader and the other by a local professional in selling stock photo. Yes, that is not guarantee, but at least its something.

And one last thing. I am a new Pixmac team leader on Monday, so if anything goes wrong, my face is ready for your fist ;-) Or at least my email is ready.

« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2009, 19:12 »
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I upload everything to fotolia, so basically, what can I upload to pixmac?
I would think that they are somewhat shooting themselves in the foot because anyone that is into stock photography probably is a member of Fotolia.
I don't mind uploading to a agency that really isnt making much but has some potential as I have time to do so. You never know what will pay off but the only things I don't have on fotolia is what they rejected.

« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2009, 21:49 »
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These guys really do their best. Unlike YAY for instance, their Alexa ratings are climbing and they are all over Google by simple SEO tricks, something free and simple YAY isn't able to do.

It's a clever move, IMHO, to sublicense FT's content, since they have a roaring start that way with over 1M images. Let's face it, sites with under 1M aren't going to make it, since buyers like a wide choice.
Me thinks they will prefer you upload the same images as on FT to their site since their return on commissions will be higher for the same effort and costs, except the re-approval.

The keywording is overkill since everybody, even with just a little experience in microstock, will be on other sites too, and will have his images keyworded already in the IPTC. Only absolute beginners would profit. I would even insist they don't re-keyword my shots, as my experience on SV showed the re-keyworders screw up things. Don't reinvent the wheel please.

So far so good, and I signed up. There are, however, two forbidding clauses in their contributor agreement.

First of all, if you want to cancel your account, you have to do so in writing. Yes, on dead trees stuff. You will have to go to the post office and send it by registered mail. Don't we all like to sit at our PC and do everything online? Yack.

Second, you will have to leave your images online 2 years after upload, and this is also true for images outside this special promo. This period is way too long. Sites like DT and BigStock require 3/6 months. The dreaded Albumo asked 400 days and everybody hated that. Two years is too long, period.

If the site is successful, almost everybody will leave his images online indefinitely. The only time you want to cancel your images is if the site shows no sales, like YAY. So why Pixmac wants to take contributors hostage?
A reason might be they are insecure, or they realize most small contributors will never reach payout before they go bankrupt, in 2 years minus 1 day. No way you'll get any money then, since all legal stuff has to be done in the Czech Republic, in Czech. Anybody remembers what happened with Galastock?

Another thing is that you are blocked to go exclusive somewhere else for 2 years. You might rule that out for the next 6 months, but what in 1 or 2 years? And finally, imagine you have a buyout of an image, for instance on DT. You can never allow a buyout since all your images are hostages for 2 years on Pixmac.

So for me, uploading under the current agreement is a big no. The sweepstakes and the 20 cents per image don't impress me. Sounds cheap, like on a fancy fair. The lock out period needs to be 3 or maximum 6 months but then with the possibility to deactivate a certain percentage like on DT.


« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2009, 01:52 »
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....Me thinks they will prefer you upload the same images as on FT to their site since their return on commissions will be higher for the same effort and costs, except the re-approval.
Did you read the post from them?  Reply #28 in this thread, I don't think they want our fotolia photos.
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3. If you're at FT, you can still try Pixmac with another pictures than those you have there. Just to taste the pink newcomer. Still its a company where one half is owned by a local media/content leader and the other by a local professional in selling stock photo. Yes, that is not guarantee, but at least its something.



« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2009, 12:41 »
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Guys, I have something special for you. Read more in this blogpost: corrected link I hope you'll be happier than before.


Cool, it's closer to the competition now. I just added this as a comment:
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It would even be better in addition if you allowed 5% or even less of the images to be deactivated immediately in a given period. At Dreamstime there is the option of "Sell the rights (SR-EL)". It doesn't happen often but that can mean thousands of $. The condition then is that you can deactivate the image immediately everywhere else. Another situation is where you want to participate with an image in one of the Dreamstime contests. You'll need image exclusivity then.

It wouldn't hurt Pixmac significantly since it would be maximum a few images in total, but on the other hand, it will encourage contributors also to upload their best shots, which they think could be eligible for "sell the rights".

« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2009, 12:47 »
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Did you read the post from them?  Reply #28 in this thread, I don't think they want our fotolia photos.

Yap I read it, but it's not clear if they'd tolerate it or not. Maybe they can answer themselves here. It seems logical they would  welcome FT images since their commission would be higher if they sold the shots themselves. As to rejections, I wouldn't know myself. I only track what's rejected on DT, SS and iS out of curiosity, since their reviewers are very knowledgeable.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 12:50 by FlemishDreams »

« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2009, 02:29 »
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I was emailing them and was told to upload all our images and they would make sure there was no duplicates coming from Fotolia.... when you upload your images with them, it dominates the Fotolia images on their sites I am guessing.  I have decided to upload to them when I get a couple of days free.

« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2009, 04:02 »
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I was emailing them and was told to upload all our images and they would make sure there was no duplicates coming from Fotolia.... when you upload your images with them, it dominates the Fotolia images on their sites I am guessing.  I have decided to upload to them when I get a couple of days free.

I am still not sure and I hope that zager can let us know here if we will get the $100 for uploading 500 images that are already on fotolia.  Until then, I wont join.

« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2009, 04:05 »
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thanks flemishdreams

« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2009, 09:19 »
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I was emailing them and was told to upload all our images and they would make sure there was no duplicates coming from Fotolia.... when you upload your images with them, it dominates the Fotolia images on their sites I am guessing.

It's reasonable that Fotolia doesn't want its shots on Pixmac too, since that would be pure competition. Sublicensing gives Fotolia indeed part of the commission. It's nice that Pixmac wants to sort out what's where, but I just checked and Fotolia accepts about 70% of what I upload. That means that on my small port of about 1,000, I will only have 300 left for Pixmac and that's not enough images for the incentive.

Pixmac has been very forthcoming to lower its locked-in period to one year, but it's still double of what market leaders like DT ask for. It will also prevent you to sell the rights on DT, something very rare, but it might happen. Considering all this, I won't upload to Pixmac for the moment, but I will upload all I have on FT. Just discovered I only had 300 images there, probably because the category system is such a pain.

If Pixmac takes off selling soon, we get part of the pie anyways by having our images on FT. The incentive only works for those that aren't on FT (and who don't plan to go there) or have more than 500 rejects at FT.

« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2009, 10:09 »
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I wish both sides (Fotolia and Pixmac) would define this clearly for us.  Maybe they have and I have just missed it.  There are all sorts of complexities .. say for example (and I have not done this) .. that I submit an image to Pixmac first ... and then later on submit it to Fotolia ?

The incongruity of the
1 year on  Pixmac restriction
the fact that I have no exclusive obligation for the image
and the Fotolia / Pixmac symbiosis
could cause the universe to implode.

John

« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2009, 11:43 »
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The incongruity of the
1 year on  Pixmac restriction
the fact that I have no exclusive obligation for the image
and the Fotolia / Pixmac symbiosis
could cause the universe to implode.

My bet is that they are just a nice bunch of enthusiasts that will discover all these complications on the way. They really didn't think at first about the 2 years, they didn't research the policies on the leading microstock sites thoroughly enough as they simply knocked it to 1 year after a forum post. I wish them the best of luck but deep down I have this luckyoliver yay snap feeling.  ::)

Update: the difference between Albumo and Pixmac is 400 - 365 = 35 days. Albumo could be canceled by email, Pixmac needs to be canceled by a registered letter to Czechia. Any sales can be done thru FT. Their own sales will be like YAY, SV, Albumo. Conclusion: I'll pass and upload all to FT.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2009, 01:03 by FlemishDreams »

« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2009, 17:37 »
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Also considering the increase in whacked-out rejections lately at FT, try uploading those images...who knows ???

« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2009, 08:25 »
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Thank you guys. I see it differently:

1. Pixmac has steadily growing sells (
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/pixmac.com ), pageviews, unique visits. Have that some of the others (Yay, SnapVillage, Albumo, Moodboard...) ?

2. Pixmac offers 50% revenue & 60% exclusive ( http://www.pixmac.com/mypictures ) if registered until Feb28. As far as I know, none of the big agencies offer that much.

3. Pixmac has autokeywording for free ( http://blog.pixmac.com/2008/11/27/automatic-keywording-of-photos/ ) (sorry, not including this $500 offer). So you can let us make the keywording and then upload the picture to other agencies. This is paid by Pixmac - we want to help you, so you can help us = we win together.

4. This Pixmac company is not a group of friends trying to make it. There are two big companies behind that. One have years of experience in content websites the other in classic stock.

5. We have Affiliate program ( http://www.pixmac.com/affiliate ) (also the best offer on the market), promo codes (people love discounts), contests ( http://blog.pixmac.com/2009/01/27/pixmac-celebrates-again-and-gives-out-iphones-and-pictures/ ) and we are preparing a lot more this year.

6. And last but not least thing. We think about user interface! If anybody of you is fighting with those neverending pop-ups and questions on other microstock sites, you'll be in seventh heaven on Pixmac! Belive me, its my responsiblity here in Pixmac.

Sorry for the promo. But I think we have more than Yay, SV, Albumo.

Vita
« Last Edit: February 05, 2009, 08:32 by zager »


« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2009, 17:10 »
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I suppose Pixmac prices will follow FT's new ones?

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2009, 16:54 »
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First of all, if you want to cancel your account, you have to do so in writing. Yes, on dead trees stuff. You will have to go to the post office and send it by registered mail. Don't we all like to sit at our PC and do everything online? Yack.


Hahaha... You just crashed into the typical Czech red tape (bureaucracy). Be happy you do not have to live here. EVERYTHING here must be in writing with 999 stamps and seals, every crap has to be sent in a registered letter (even better with the delivery confirmation) so that you will have to go to the post office in person to collect it ... And be happy they do not want you to send 666 copies of your letter to all (im)possible offices and institutions... Or that your letter does not have to be authenticated by a notary... This is just a small sample of what you have to get used to in this small red taped country...

RacePhoto

« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2009, 22:50 »
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Edit: It's done.

Time to watch how this works out in the long run.

« Last Edit: February 28, 2009, 23:14 by RacePhoto »

« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2009, 04:33 »
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Just a few days!

Anyone who wants to have a 50% share of Pixmacs revenue should upload photos before the end of February (this Saturday). Our offer Get $100 or $500 just by uploading photos ( newbielink:http://blog.pixmac.com/2009/01/30/get-usd500-for-500-pictures-on-pixmac/ [nonactive]) is about to end. And I am happy to report that weve already sent money to the first photographers who have 500 pictures approved already! Its easy to be as happy as them!

« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2009, 05:16 »
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As was mentioned in another forum, the slogan Get $100 or $500 just by uploading photos is a bit deceptive. It's not a bonus for uploading, but just an advance on the sales you will make. So when you received your 100$, you won't get any money on sales till they exceed 100$.

I'll pass, mainly because of the exceptionally long lock-in period of a year for all images and the red tape involved to cancel an account. Good luck!

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