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« on: January 06, 2024, 19:51 »
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I got this weird email sent from Fine Art America:

I'm interested in buying a few of your artworks for my exhibition, about 5-10 artworks.  But I'm only interested in buying them as NFTs.

Ill offer $2500 for each of these artworks I purchase from you as Id love to purchase these artworks as digital artworks(NFTs). Do you have a knowledge about this or should I explain further?


This is a typical NFT scam, intending to convince greedy gullible "artists" to pay hundreds of dollars on "specialized" NFT sites, to register their "art" as a prerequisite for these promised sales, which will never happen.



« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2024, 04:54 »
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This is a typical NFT scam, intending to convince greedy gullible "artists" to pay hundreds of dollars on "specialized" NFT sites, to register their "art" as a prerequisite for these promised sales
Why hundreds of dollars? I've heard of amounts as low as $10.

« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2024, 05:43 »
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This is a typical NFT scam, intending to convince greedy gullible "artists" to pay hundreds of dollars on "specialized" NFT sites, to register their "art" as a prerequisite for these promised sales
Why hundreds of dollars? I've heard of amounts as low as $10.

You missed the point. Scammers don't scam with legit sites. They have their own.
They prey on greedy, ignorant and gullible victims.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2024, 05:52 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2024, 07:38 »
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This is a typical NFT scam, intending to convince greedy gullible "artists" to pay hundreds of dollars on "specialized" NFT sites, to register their "art" as a prerequisite for these promised sales
Why hundreds of dollars? I've heard of amounts as low as $10.

You missed the point. Scammers don't scam with legit sites. They have their own.
They prey on greedy, ignorant and gullible victims.
Why are they scammers? This does not follow from your first post. No one is asking you to spend hundreds of dollars. You can do this for a few dollars.

« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2024, 10:02 »
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This is a typical NFT scam, intending to convince greedy gullible "artists" to pay hundreds of dollars on "specialized" NFT sites, to register their "art" as a prerequisite for these promised sales
Why hundreds of dollars? I've heard of amounts as low as $10.

You missed the point. Scammers don't scam with legit sites. They have their own.
They prey on greedy, ignorant and gullible victims.
Why are they scammers? This does not follow from your first post. No one is asking you to spend hundreds of dollars. You can do this for a few dollars.

As seen also on other topics, you still don't get it.

They will ask you to "register" your "art" with their website. If you propose a different one, they will do their best to convince you that theirs is better. If you don't want to do it, or start asking too many questions, they will drop you and move to the next potential victims, some gullible individuals who believe that these offers are about their "art" and not about their ego, greed and ignorance.

https://artsology.com/blog/2023/03/update-on-the-nft-scam-directed-at-artists-via-instagram/

https://medium.com/@fedorvasilev/nft-scam-on-instagram-b8fcd3d9ce0b
« Last Edit: January 07, 2024, 10:17 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2024, 10:17 »
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They will ask you to "register" your "art" with their website.
You didn't write this in your first post.
It would be good if you published here the entire letter that you received.
 ;)

« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2024, 10:27 »
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They will ask you to "register" your "art" with their website.
You didn't write this in your first post.
It would be good if you published here the entire letter that you received.
 ;)
That's what I said and what I shared was the entire "letter".

You obviously didn't properly read my warning, didn't think it through, or refused to acknowledge facts contradicting your preconceptions. As usual.

Why are they scammers?
This shows that you may have fallen for this scam. Now you know about it.
You're welcome!
« Last Edit: January 07, 2024, 10:40 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2024, 10:52 »
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Zero Talent, maybe I didnt understand something, let other authors correct me here. But in my opinion, you yourself refuse 2500 dollars for each image.  :)

« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2024, 11:32 »
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Zero Talent, maybe I didnt understand something, let other authors correct me here. But in my opinion, you yourself refuse 2500 dollars for each image.  :)

Lol. As I said, you don't think it through.
You are one of those gullible "artists", whose ego, greed and ignorance these scammers are preying on.

Even if your initial gullible reaction was to believe the honesty of that "offer", insisting to believe it after I gave you 2 links describing in detail how the scam works (there are more), is only another proof of your stubbornness and refusal to change your mind, no matter what evidence you are faced with.

No surprise. You are already well known for refusing to acknowledge any facts contradicting your preconceptions, even when the reality is screaming in your face.

When the next Nigerian Prince will ask you for help to save his fortune, go for it!
« Last Edit: January 07, 2024, 11:41 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2024, 13:55 »
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Zero Talent, maybe I didnt understand something, let other authors correct me here. But in my opinion, you yourself refuse 2500 dollars for each image.  :)

Lol. As I said, you don't think it through.
You are one of those gullible "artists", whose ego, greed and ignorance these scammers are preying on.

Even if your initial gullible reaction was to believe the honesty of that "offer", insisting to believe it after I gave you 2 links describing in detail how the scam works (there are more), is only another proof of your stubbornness and refusal to change your mind, no matter what evidence you are faced with.

No surprise. You are already well known for refusing to acknowledge any facts contradicting your preconceptions, even when the reality is screaming in your face.

When the next Nigerian Prince will ask you for help to save his fortune, go for it!
Zero Talent, stop campaigning for Democrats in all topics!  ;D ;D ;D
Yes, you provided links to several private stories. Perhaps your case is also fraudulent, but you havent checked it. Either you write that your videos are sold for more than $1,000, or you write about fraud. You decide for yourself whether your photos are worth that kind of money or not.  :)
As for the NFT market, it is near $100 billion. You wont believe it, but besides scammers, there is a real market, deals, money.  :)

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2024, 14:20 »
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I got this weird email sent from Fine Art America:

I'm interested in buying a few of your artworks for my exhibition, about 5-10 artworks.  But I'm only interested in buying them as NFTs.

Ill offer $2500 for each of these artworks I purchase from you as Id love to purchase these artworks as digital artworks(NFTs). Do you have a knowledge about this or should I explain further?


This is a typical NFT scam, intending to convince greedy gullible "artists" to pay hundreds of dollars on "specialized" NFT sites, to register their "art" as a prerequisite for these promised sales, which will never happen.

I received two offers for things I have for sale on Amazon. I have nothing for sale on Amazon. (deleted)

Got this last week:

OpenSea Offer Alert

A new offer has been placed on one of your NFT listings.

    Offer Details:
    Offer Details: 0x85hB2P
    Offered by: Fluchy


Link is to someplace not Open Sea where the url is Name-Name for a site that's real is NameName (without the hyphen) and the one with the hyphen is blacklisted and blocked. The real one is up and doing fine.

Good that you tried to warn us, because Cons rely on the greed and gullibility of people who make money on their own side jobs.



Of course some people will believe this is a real story.  ::)

« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2024, 14:35 »
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Zero Talent, maybe I didnt understand something, let other authors correct me here. But in my opinion, you yourself refuse 2500 dollars for each image.  :)

Lol. As I said, you don't think it through.
You are one of those gullible "artists", whose ego, greed and ignorance these scammers are preying on.

Even if your initial gullible reaction was to believe the honesty of that "offer", insisting to believe it after I gave you 2 links describing in detail how the scam works (there are more), is only another proof of your stubbornness and refusal to change your mind, no matter what evidence you are faced with.

No surprise. You are already well known for refusing to acknowledge any facts contradicting your preconceptions, even when the reality is screaming in your face.

When the next Nigerian Prince will ask you for help to save his fortune, go for it!
Zero Talent, stop campaigning for Democrats in all topics!  ;D ;D ;D
Yes, you provided links to several private stories. Perhaps your case is also fraudulent, but you havent checked it. Either you write that your videos are sold for more than $1,000, or you write about fraud. You decide for yourself whether your photos are worth that kind of money or not.  :)
As for the NFT market, it is near $100 billion. You wont believe it, but besides scammers, there is a real market, deals, money.  :)
Yes, you didn't understand. And that's Ok.
The problem is that even now, when you were presented clear examples, you insist in believing that the "offer" was genuine.
Yes, it was as genuine as the "offers" made by that famous Nigerian Prince.
I'm sorry, but those like you deserve to be scammed. Maybe this is the only way to learn a lesson, if common sense and logic are not good enough.

Fyi, I asked the scammer for more details ("please tell me more"), but my email was probably too succint and didn't match the gullibility pattern the scammer was after, so there was no follow up.

Remember that these are photos not videos. And yes, when you get $300 for a video on SS rest assured that the buyer paid 3 to 4 times more for it (depending on your level).

I wonder where you saw any reference to the Democrats in this thread. This must only be in your head. Maybe "delirium", as you said it yourself to others, when they asked you to face inconvenient truths.

Lastly, I already told you that I will happily vote for true old school republicans like Nikki Haley or Chris Christie, instead of Biden. Unfortunatelly they stand no chance in front of the overwhelming maga majority, and I will certainly never get this chance.

As always, you don't pay attention to facts contradicting your preconceptions.

PS. For gullible and stubborn individuals like you, I recommend this podcast: https://darknetdiaries.com/. The "pig butchering" scam (last episode) is also an interesting one.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2024, 14:59 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2024, 14:49 »
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i get 1 or 2 of these each month as comments on FB here's my std reply:

Which images & what price are you offering for the license to make NFT from my images? I do sell exclusive rights for NFT as long as the buyer takes complete control after I supply the  images I also require a 30% deposit made to my paypal account.

I've been so disappointed that no one wants to take my generous offer! usually the scammer can't even name an image they want and try to get me to upload to their scammer site. i confirm that's an evil site & i then out them as a scammer ii my public reply (usually in an FAA group)


« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2024, 15:01 »
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As for the NFT market, it is near $100 billion. You wont believe it, but besides scammers, there is a real market, deals, money.  :)
irrelevant - no one claimed there was no profit in NFT

successful NFT come from those with means to advertise & promote. 

i know it's useless to ask you this, but please show ONE successful NFT from a stock image.

legitimate NFT are comparable to self-hosted sites - they wither without substantial SEO investment & other marketing

« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2024, 15:07 »
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then, there are the 'legitimate' scammers willing to  bilk their own followers, such as an indicted ex-president

Former President Donald Trump has made between $100,001 and $1 million in income from NFTs, his new financial disclosure showed.

Trump last year announced his first NFT collection, a series of $99 digital trading cards featuring cartoon drawings of him in various heroic postures and outfits.
  {my emphasis}

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/14/trump-made-a-bundle-of-cash-selling-nfts-financial-filings-show.html

« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2024, 17:02 »
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then, there are the 'legitimate' scammers willing to  bilk their own followers, such as an indicted ex-president

Former President Donald Trump has made between $100,001 and $1 million in income from NFTs, his new financial disclosure showed.

Trump last year announced his first NFT collection, a series of $99 digital trading cards featuring cartoon drawings of him in various heroic postures and outfits.
  {my emphasis}

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/14/trump-made-a-bundle-of-cash-selling-nfts-financial-filings-show.html
What is the deception, fraud and why are indicted?

« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2024, 17:04 »
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As for the NFT market, it is near $100 billion. You wont believe it, but besides scammers, there is a real market, deals, money.  :)
irrelevant - no one claimed there was no profit in NFT

successful NFT come from those with means to advertise & promote. 

i know it's useless to ask you this, but please show ONE successful NFT from a stock image.

legitimate NFT are comparable to self-hosted sites - they wither without substantial SEO investment & other marketing
The Fine Art America website is not only a stock image. I dont even know if there is a stock image on this site.  :)

« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2024, 17:08 »
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Fyi, I asked the scammer for more details ("please tell me more"), but my email was probably too succint and didn't match the gullibility pattern the scammer was after, so there was no follow up.
Now your topic can be considered clear. This is the phrase you should have started with.  ;D

Zero Talent, you write a lot of flood.  ::) ::) ::)

« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2024, 17:19 »
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Fyi, I asked the scammer for more details ("please tell me more"), but my email was probably too succint and didn't match the gullibility pattern the scammer was after, so there was no follow up.
Now your topic can be considered clear. This is the phrase you should have started with.

This is progress.

A small piece of advice: to avoid future embarrassments, when things are not clear for you, it's always better to ask follow up questions, instead of fighting the obvious.
There is no shame in that.

PS:
I dont even know if there is a stock image on this site.
FYI, all my FAA photos are also sold on all my stock sites.
Another example when it's advisable to ask questions first.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2024, 17:31 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2024, 18:00 »
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As for the NFT market, it is near $100 billion. You wont believe it, but besides scammers, there is a real market, deals, money.  :)
irrelevant - no one claimed there was no profit in NFT

successful NFT come from those with means to advertise & promote. 

i know it's useless to ask you this, but please show ONE successful NFT from a stock image.

legitimate NFT are comparable to self-hosted sites - they wither without substantial SEO investment & other marketing
The Fine Art America website is not only a stock image. I dont even know if there is a stock image on this site.  :)

more obfuscation & ignorance (why am i not surprised?)

first, i asked you to show any stock image that had been successful as NFT as you implied, which you avoided by answering with a non sequitur

second, there are many, many hundreds of stock images on FAA - all of mine are (about 1500) and there are many others on both FAA &FB groups who do both

« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2024, 03:48 »
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This is progress.

A small piece of advice: to avoid future embarrassments, when things are not clear for you, it's always better to ask follow up questions, instead of fighting the obvious.
There is no shame in that.
You probably haven't noticed, but I kept trying to ask you questions.  :)

« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2024, 03:51 »
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As for the NFT market, it is near $100 billion. You wont believe it, but besides scammers, there is a real market, deals, money.  :)
irrelevant - no one claimed there was no profit in NFT

successful NFT come from those with means to advertise & promote. 

i know it's useless to ask you this, but please show ONE successful NFT from a stock image.

legitimate NFT are comparable to self-hosted sites - they wither without substantial SEO investment & other marketing
The Fine Art America website is not only a stock image. I dont even know if there is a stock image on this site.  :)

more obfuscation & ignorance (why am i not surprised?)

first, i asked you to show any stock image that had been successful as NFT as you implied, which you avoided by answering with a non sequitur

second, there are many, many hundreds of stock images on FAA - all of mine are (about 1500) and there are many others on both FAA &FB groups who do both
1. I don't know what images Zero Talent sells on this site. He didn't provide any links to them. These may not be stock images.
2. This site has a lot of artwork that can be sold as an NFT.
3. This is not a stock site.
4. You are asking a question to which you yourself do not know the answer.
 :)

« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2024, 12:11 »
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1. I don't know what images Zero Talent sells on this site. He didn't provide any links to them. These may not be stock images.

I already told you that ALL my FAA photos are also sold on ALL my stock sites.
Cascoly told you the same.

But you are stubborn and unwilling to change your prejudices, even when confronted with evidence screaming in your face. We already established that.

You can easily do a reverse search on many FAA photos and discover them on stock sites, but you are not willing to listen.

See below another example from a different contributor, selling his stock photos on FAA.


« Last Edit: January 08, 2024, 13:56 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2024, 15:16 »
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1. I don't know what images Zero Talent sells on this site. He didn't provide any links to them. These may not be stock images.

I already told you that ALL my FAA photos are also sold on ALL my stock sites.
Cascoly told you the same.

But you are stubborn and unwilling to change your prejudices, even when confronted with evidence screaming in your face. We already established that.

You can easily do a reverse search on many FAA photos and discover them on stock sites, but you are not willing to listen.

See below another example from a different contributor, selling his stock photos on FAA.
1. I was having a discussion with Cascoly, not with you.
2. I wrote to him about the time when you had not yet written what you were selling and explained the meaning of my posts.
3. Your opinion may be subjective regarding the artistic value of your photos.
 :)

« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2024, 15:35 »
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1. I don't know what images Zero Talent sells on this site. He didn't provide any links to them. These may not be stock images.

I already told you that ALL my FAA photos are also sold on ALL my stock sites.
Cascoly told you the same.

But you are stubborn and unwilling to change your prejudices, even when confronted with evidence screaming in your face. We already established that.

You can easily do a reverse search on many FAA photos and discover them on stock sites, but you are not willing to listen.

See below another example from a different contributor, selling his stock photos on FAA.
1. I was having a discussion with Cascoly, not with you.
2. I wrote to him about the time when you had not yet written what you were selling and explained the meaning of my posts.
3. Your opinion may be subjective regarding the artistic value of your photos.
 :)

more nonsensical replies - you can't even remember that you were replying to Zero well before i entered the conversation!
 

« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2024, 15:47 »
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I've gotten a few of these types of scam attempts recently.

The first was someone on Instagram who wanted to buy one of my works to use as a reference photo for an NFT for $1,000. I was extremely skeptical since they could purchase a stock photo extended license for far less, but since she had actually singled out the work she wanted, and sent me a couple of messages, I agreed to take a look at the proposed contract, in the hope that I was wrong. As soon as I read the "contract," I knew my misgivings had been correct. It purported to make me responsible for upfront costs, which they'd "cover" by sending me more than the $1,000 price for use of the image - a big red flag - your bank can "cash" a check for you based on your own balance covering it, only to discover several days later that it has actually bounced, meanwhile the contract required me to be responsible for various costs on a very tight timeline - before the time it would take to discover a check or credit card payment was actually no good. I politely declined her offer.

I've gotten DMs on twitter too asking if my work is for sale - when it's clear from any link that it is, followed by "I'd love to buy it as an NFT" - without specifying a specific work - another big red flag. I just respond politely that my work is not available as an NFT. I probably shouldn't waste my time responding at all but since I've had individuals, publishers and galleries contact me out of the blue who were legitimately interested in showing, licensing or buying my work, on the off chance that my cynicism has made me assume a legitimate inquirer is a scammer, I always respond politely even when I'm saying "no."

Since NFTs require you to spend money up front, they seem like the perfect way for a scammer to get your money. And if they offer to pay for the NFT costs up front and then send you more than needed, requiring you to repay the difference, or pay others, well, that's just a reworking of an old photo scam from the early 2000's. 

@ZeroTalent  Thanks for bringing this to people's attention - that some here don't believe you is a testament to how scammers stroke photographer's egos and why conmen have been succeeding for eons. It's easy for me to spot a bogus "contract" but I practiced law in NYC for over a decade. It's also easy to understand how much we want an offer to buy our work to be legit - I actually agreed to look at the "contract" even though I really knew deep down that it would be bogus. Human nature. Now I just politely decline so as not to waste my time.

I'd worry too if they are sending you to their own bitcoin site, that they can get more than whatever costs you're paying upfront, since this might give them private banking info? It could wipe you out, and my understanding is that none of this stuff is traceable.




« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2024, 17:19 »
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I'd worry too if they are sending you to their own bitcoin site, that they can get more than whatever costs you're paying upfront, since this might give them private banking info? It could wipe you out, and my understanding is that none of this stuff is traceable.

yes, there is the occasional legit offer. the other reason why i reply is to get their bitcoin 'site', then track it down to confirm it's a scam

i use https://www.ssltrust.com/ssl-tools/website-security-check  which checks a site over dozens of databases

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2024, 13:31 »
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Yet another day in the never ending story of:

 



 

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