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Microstock Photography Forum - General => Microstock News => Topic started by: johngriffin on August 06, 2008, 19:17
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I am wondering what are the best types of photo contests you have seen or participated in? Which ones don't you like?
Are there sites that put on good photo related contests that you really like?
how long should the deadlines be?
what are good prizes? what do contributors like the most to get? just cash?
How many people should share in the prizes? top 3? top 5? Does it matter how many?
Who should be the judges? The website? The community? What works best?
I'm open to any ideas and interested to see what people like. You don't have to answer all the questions but would be interested to hear some of your thoughts.
Thanks, John
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These are my thoughts on the subject.
I like the Dreamstime type where you have a certain theme.
A month is long enough for a deadline.
I would rather receive money a prize than a prize that you might not even want or need.
Just the winner to have prize with a few token prizes for the runners up.
The community should never be the judges, it is too open to abuse.
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i dont submit to most contests anymore -- before digital i did send to various magazine, calendar, etc contests in both photo and recipes [recipe contests were lucrative, my best win was a trip to NY to meet paul newman at the finals for his newman's own line - prize for the 6 finalists included $10K to your favorite charity - but few MS sites are going to be able to match that]
right now, i submit to the JPG magazine themes contests - they pay $100 and the process is simple & quick
http://www.jpgmag.com/photos/1026769 (http://www.jpgmag.com/photos/1026769)
JPG isnt selling images tho, but MS has the additional advantage that the secondary prizes could be postings in a hall of fame [like editors picks], so the images would continue to get exposure
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Photographers are obsessed with gadgets. Light meters, Wacom tablets, portable storage devices, a 16 or 32 gig memory card, lensbaby, calibrator, printers, photobooks, canvas stretch prints. Some we can't live without.
If you demand exclusivity of submissions, let it expire in 12 months and you will have a lot more entrants.
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"I'm open to any ideas and interested to see what people like."
Contests that aren't just a scheme to get rights to use your images.
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"I'm open to any ideas and interested to see what people like."
Contests that aren't just a scheme to get rights to use your images.
Right on. Read the rules very carefully because they often bury the words 'all rights' in the small print. Even the biggest companies do this. Nikon whipped up a storm of protest a year or so ago when they ran a contest taking 'all rights' to the entries. Avoid these contests like the plague as you're giving away your copyright.
Cash prizes are the best as far as I'm concerned. Couldn't care less about meeting some 'celebrity' or getting a bit of equipment I've no use for. An associated exhibition of the winners, or other publicity, is a bonus.
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Watch out for competitions run by the BBC in the UK. They nearly always want to retain the rights.
We are all doing this for the money (aren't we?). Unless the first prize is a super camera, I would prefer a cash prize.
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Watch out for competitions run by the BBC in the UK. They nearly always want to retain the rights.
Watch out when sending any photograph to the BBC. They don't pay, no matter how newsworthy it is. They seem to regard the glory of having your photograph displayed by the BBC as payment enough.
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We had a thread about this some time ago, hadn't we?
National Geographic Society also retains rights over images submitted to them, even if not published. They don't ask for copyright, but for the lifetime right to use the images in whatever way they want, editorially or commercially (if I remember it right, on a non-exclusive basis). I think it could be a good deal if the image is published - after all, that would be being published in National Geographic magazine, website or merchandise. Possibly only published images are in fact used by them in the end, but the terms are abusive to me the way they are.
Regards,
Adelaide
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really interesting stuff. who do you think has a fair contract i could use as a template for a photo competition?
is a month a long enough deadline? what are some themes that you think are good for the contests?
i like the idea of giving money and then let the winners decide what they want to buy. Just don't go out wasting your money in the stock market. hahah. that is my advice for the day, coming from a former stock trader ;-)
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getting 'stuff' you might get a deal from a photography store if you toot their name around the competition - letting you give away bigger prizes. I would rather win a $2000 camera than $1000 cash.
Crestock had a really fancy competition giving away a Canon 1DS mark II, some apple computers and other fancy gear. I think also, gear sounds more exciting that cash. $1500 doesn't neccesarliy sounds like tons of $$, but if you say the new 30" apple monitor, or some other item that people have been dreaming about the last couple of year, you might get more of a reaction and buzz...
but i don't really know ;) just hypothesizing
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National Geographic Society also retains rights over images submitted to them, even if not published. They don't ask for copyright, but for the lifetime right to use the images in whatever way they want, editorially or commercially
Do they pay anything?
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Just some thoughts...
- For a prize, cash is "King". As some have stated, it allows the winner(s) to purchase what they need (whether it is photography equipment or food).
- Judging is the single biggest issue with contests (of any sort). There are always problems with contests because of the judging. All you have to do is watch some of the TV "contests" to see this in action (e.g., American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, etc). Many times, the most skilled contestant doesn't win, but the most popular.
If you leave it up to the audience, then it will be a matter of who can gather the most votes. There have been many times that I have seen people ask (or beg) that people vote for them in a contest. Depending on the contest, you might also get "phantom" votes (i.e., votes from people that create multiple accounts and vote many times).
If you leave it up to the judges, then their idiosyncrasies might skew the results. Judges have favorites (whether it is a certain artist or style).
Of the two (community vs a panel of judges), I would prefer a panel of judges, but I would make sure that the images that they are judging would be "blind". That is, the judges should only be able to see the image and nothing else (such as the artist's name, description, etc.). After all, it is the image that should be judged, and not the person, how well it is described, the keywords, etc.
- There should also be a limit on the number of entries that a contestant can submit. This way, a contestant can't just submit 100 images to increase their chances.
- As far as websites are concerned, DPChallenge (http://www.dpchallenge.com/) seems to do a good job.
- Finally, make sure that the rules are VERY clear. There are many times when there are ambiguous rules and they can be interpreted in a lot of different ways.
For example, I once did a photo contest that was titled "Liquids". Basically, entries had to contain a liquid as a major theme in the image. But then it became clear that the term "liquid" was not enough, because questions arose as to whether images of glass (which is considered a liquid by many) would be valid. There were also questions on whether Photoshop plugins that create water/liquid were allowable. Those questions (and many more) needed to be ironed out before the contest started.
I hope that helps and good luck.
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National Geographic Society also retains rights over images submitted to them, even if not published. They don't ask for copyright, but for the lifetime right to use the images in whatever way they want, editorially or commercially
Do they pay anything?
Possibly in contests, yes, either cash or prize (could check). But for the "Your shot" section in NGM and NG website, no.
Regards,
Adelaide