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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2020, 07:31 »
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Happy to see this is 3 months new.
Let's say it has started from September 2020.
In the past, from 2016 to August 2020 according to that, this was not active.
So, why when there was no need for that, not a single photo uploaded 4 years ago was never reviewed?


« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2020, 07:31 »
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I went back just now to have a look at my Zoonar portfolio.
Let's give you an example.
I have a cherry blossom photo with blurred blue sky background that needs no model or property release.
A photo uploaded in 2016.
It mentions it will be checked for pixuremaxx and age photostock soon.
The photo has a title and keywords.
When will this be reviewed for other agencies?
Four years pending are not enough?
Is Zoonar so busy that has not still reviewed a pic form 2016? We will be in 2021 soon.
This goes on for all my pics.
Not a single creative one was ever sent to another agency.
Not rejected, pending for four years.
I could mention my cherry pic needs a model or property release, but that would be a joke.
All my landscape pics that neeed no release are still pending for 4 years.
I never got a time specific response as for the time taken.
I am still not reading a reply for the 4 four years it took and my pics are not reviewed.

Second: For years we have been sending automatic emails to all photographers who do not make any release settings. Why did you ignore these emails? Other photographers (over 95%) have their photos in the complete network within 1-2 years). It's not always the other's fault. As a photographer, YOU have to see how an agency works. Some just upload photos and don't control what the next steps are. When you log in, there are also bold warnings in red, which indicate that release information must be set so that the photos can be distributed. This too was apparently ignored ...

Just to be on the safe side: our editors have been doing this job for three months now. So it may be that you no longer see the warnings. All photos are now fully distributed within 3-6 months. There are exceptions, however: We do not currently supply some partners. For example, we supply Picturemaxx via our channels at DDP and Picture Alliance and currently not a third time directly.


« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2020, 07:33 »
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Happy to see this is 3 months new.
Let's say it has started from September 2020.
In the past, from 2016 to August 2020 according to that, this was not active.
So, why when there was no need for that, not a single photo uploaded 4 years ago was never reviewed?

Off course. Once again: How should a Database know if a Release is necessary or not?? Only the Photographer can know this. One example: In germany you need a Property Release if you made a Photo of a cherry tree on a private ground. Only YOU can know if you was on private property or not !!

« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2020, 07:40 »
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It is interesting to see a non English person replying using "!!" and capital letters, like "YOU".
This is a text forum and shouting cannot be heard.
I would please ask you (not YOU or !!-as you respond sir) to keep calm and maintain a civilised tone of reply.
Since you represent Zoonar please help me find out how I can be paid my less than 35 euros credit,
including details in how to close my Zoonar acount.

« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2020, 07:49 »
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It is interesting to see a non English person replying using "!!" and capital letters, like "YOU".
This is a text forum and shouting cannot be heard.
I would please ask you (not YOU or !!-as you respond sir) to keep calm and maintain a civilised tone of reply.
Since you represent Zoonar please help me find out how I can be paid my less than 35 euros credit,
including details in how to close my Zoonar acount.

No Problem SIR !
go to "my Profile / edit Profile" (second tab)....

« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2020, 07:51 »
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As for the emails ( I am still keeping my agreement with Zoonar and do not disclose them) almost all are in German!
I am Greek, have studied at an American College, I have a Porficiency Certificate Degree in English and a legally recognised title from UK that enables me to teach English at a primary education school, but my German knowledge limits to "ich spreche kein Deutch", (no used !! or capitals here) from my last trip to Berlin!

« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2020, 07:52 »
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As for the emails ( I am still keeping my agreement with Zoonar and do not disclose them) almost all are in German!
I am Greek, have studied at an American College, I have a Porficiency Certificate Degree in English and a legally recognised title from UK that enables me to teach English at a primary education school, but my German knowledge limits to "ich spreche kein Deutch", (no used !! or capitals here) from my last trip to Berlin!

No, we sent english Mails. Maybe you have used a german address. Then you get an german mail

« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2020, 07:56 »
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It is interesting to see a non English person replying using "!!" and capital letters, like "YOU".
This is a text forum and shouting cannot be heard.
I would please ask you (not YOU or !!-as you respond sir) to keep calm and maintain a civilised tone of reply.
Since you represent Zoonar please help me find out how I can be paid my less than 35 euros credit,
including details in how to close my Zoonar acount.
The capitalized "YOU" shouldn't be an insult. But i don't understand why i can't say you just because i'm not from england? Here it is at least as common to say "you" in forums. As I said, insulting was not my intention ...


« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2020, 08:01 »
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Understood.
No, I did not use a Germam email but that is not the case. (copies and dates available)
Also, out of my total portfolio only 2 pics are missing model or release status.
The rest were never forwarded to other agencies.
In fact, my only Zoonar sales are with editorial photos.
I log in to my Zoonar acount and request a payout.
Since as I said I am below the 35 minimum, it responds with an error.
Please respond how I can be paid and then close my acount.

« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2020, 08:04 »
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Understood.
No, I did not use a Germam email but that is not the case. (copies and dates available)
Also, out of my total portfolio only 2 pics are missing model or release status.
The rest were never forwarded to other agencies.
In fact, my only Zoonar sales are with editorial photos.
I log in to my Zoonar acount and request a payout.
Since as I said I am below the 35 minimum, it responds with an error.
Please respond how I can be paid and then close my acount.

If you cancel your account, the money will be transferred at the end.


« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2020, 08:07 »
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Thank you for your reply.
Just a final question then, so the rest of the contributors can benefit.
What is the time estimate, the longest it will take for the small money acount to be paid?

« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2020, 08:11 »
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Please also explain how I can close my acount.
I am logged in but only see the option to edit pics.

« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2020, 10:55 »
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# Hi Kall3bu,

sorry, I was wrong. I talked with our Developers: There will be an opt-out-function for Zoonar.Express. They are working on it.... #

No matter! nobody is perfect. Thank you for asking your developers.

In my case: My new strategy will be uploading/submitting new images to that agencies in follow that gives highest RPD for contributors first. I leave them exclusive on the first agency for a month , maybe 2 month, before I further submit them to the next agency with second high RPD. And so on. If I got a sale on the first agency, I delay submit to the next agency another month or 2.
The agencies with lowest RPD will get that images around 1 year later than the first agency - if nowhere the image got sold yet.

With this way I support first the more fair agencies with my time limited exclusive images and I support my ego, who does not want to submit my best images directly to the agencies, who treat their contributors by cutting our RPD massively.

But my very best images are still on my hard disc, because I researched one year with my other images first, what works where and why.

Thats why I was first shocked about Zoonar.express and my images online there.

It would be indeed great, if we can opt out first and later when I arrived with that images on agencies with similar RPD like I would get from Zoonar.express. Then I would like to opt in.
Do you think that will be possible? Or do we contributors have to decide only one time: opt in or opt out, but no change later on?

Maybe I open your eyes for contributors need and maybe some contributors here get a new idea for their upload sequence in kind of agencies.

If all contributors would do it like my plan above: The fairer agencies will benefit from it by getting the images first. Buyers will recognize that one time and search on that fairer agencies first, to get the freshest images.





« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2020, 12:52 »
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# Hi Kall3bu,

sorry, I was wrong. I talked with our Developers: There will be an opt-out-function for Zoonar.Express. They are working on it.... #

No matter! nobody is perfect. Thank you for asking your developers.

In my case: My new strategy will be uploading/submitting new images to that agencies in follow that gives highest RPD for contributors first. I leave them exclusive on the first agency for a month , maybe 2 month, before I further submit them to the next agency with second high RPD. And so on. If I got a sale on the first agency, I delay submit to the next agency another month or 2.
The agencies with lowest RPD will get that images around 1 year later than the first agency - if nowhere the image got sold yet.

With this way I support first the more fair agencies with my time limited exclusive images and I support my ego, who does not want to submit my best images directly to the agencies, who treat their contributors by cutting our RPD massively.

But my very best images are still on my hard disc, because I researched one year with my other images first, what works where and why.

Thats why I was first shocked about Zoonar.express and my images online there.

It would be indeed great, if we can opt out first and later when I arrived with that images on agencies with similar RPD like I would get from Zoonar.express. Then I would like to opt in.
Do you think that will be possible? Or do we contributors have to decide only one time: opt in or opt out, but no change later on?

Maybe I open your eyes for contributors need and maybe some contributors here get a new idea for their upload sequence in kind of agencies.

If all contributors would do it like my plan above: The fairer agencies will benefit from it by getting the images first. Buyers will recognize that one time and search on that fairer agencies first, to get the freshest images.

Hello again, which is not a problem: We can take photos out at Zoonar.Express for the photographer at any time and put them back in later at any time. An email to: [email protected] is sufficient

This will be possible in 2-3 days.

However, I don't think your strategy makes sense. I would like to explain this with an example: Most image sales at traditional agencies are different from those at microstock agencies. The publishers load data and then design a layout. If this is accepted by the editor-in-chief, the product is printed and comes onto the market about 3-6 months later. We will then receive a receipt and issue an invoice. This means that it takes 3-6 months before the first licensing can occur after the upload of new photos. It is also the reason why many agencies have a deletion period of 6 months for photos. Otherwise these sales could no longer be booked.

Many people think that it always works like this, that customers license photos immediately. However, this is often not possible with professional designs, since there has to be an acceptance and sample layouts are often rejected. We have many such customers. However, if we use them, we often achieve good fees, for example very high fees for cover images.

« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2020, 07:30 »
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Thank you very much for giving that background information. I guess, most contributors didnt know about it.

But it helps me for my strategy. Instead of waiting that 6 month, I submit them to other agencies with good RPD on same time.
Mostly costumer even not searching on different agencies - I think this is more value for customers, who buy on Zoonar and macrostock agenices. Maybe on microstock agencies costumers more searching on different agencies, but not sure also.


 

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