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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2010, 08:40 »
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really?? must be where I have the lowest approval :P

so they say: that placement in search results is influenced by approval - don't know if it's true or just a urban legend


« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2010, 08:45 »
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really?? must be where I have the lowest approval :P

so they say: that placement in search results is influenced by approval - don't know if it's true or just a urban legend

We will have the answer soon, I have sent a message to Mat Hayward who is always very helpful :)

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« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2010, 10:53 »
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it happened again: same picture uploaded 57 times to DP

as a temporary solution, what about setting a limit to the number of retries? let's say 2 or 3 times, it's enough  :)

« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2010, 11:06 »
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it happened again: same picture uploaded 57 times to DP

as a temporary solution, what about setting a limit to the number of retries? let's say 2 or 3 times, it's enough  :)

Thanks for the report! It's important that it is not just FT - narrows the options.  I am on it now.

« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2010, 11:36 »
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Do we dare try uploading again?

Can someone try it and let me know if its ok now ;-)
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 12:16 by zenpix »

« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2010, 12:43 »
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I stopped the distribution until this issue is fixed, to avoid any trouble. Will let you know when it is back.

« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2010, 15:15 »
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I have removed the picture hours ago and AGAIN more 200.. what the heck!! :P

please DELETE my account!

UPDATED: everything is fine :)
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 17:29 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2010, 17:10 »
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Oh no!

i just deleted the pics and it stopped.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 17:26 by zenpix »

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« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2010, 17:17 »
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@zenpix: I know for sure that when you delete files manually from your Fotolia account BEFORE they enter the review process (turning yellow), it does NOT affect your acceptance ratio...

« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2010, 17:24 »
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Thanks for the info...thats good to know!
Im realy not trying to be a problem.
but im just concerned.

« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2010, 18:23 »
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@zenpix: I know for sure that when you delete files manually from your Fotolia account BEFORE they enter the review process (turning yellow), it does NOT affect your acceptance ratio...

So I guess I'm screwed  :o mine was yellow and pushed in the queue already (7 times) and I deleted them, but at least it was not 100 times ;)
Same happened with DP 14 times the same upload, I'm sure we can read about this tomorrow in Wikileaks :)

Hope not too much damage is done and will wait for things to get better

Shalom for now.

« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2010, 18:56 »
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Wikileaks~~HA, thats funny ;D

How is that possible, we r talking about photolia~they wont move through to review until you finalize the file, keyword order, catagories....
Did u do that already?

« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2010, 02:37 »
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First, let me apologize for the trouble. I am still investigating it. Production environment is much stronger and faster than the lab, so the things work differently. I already have found one issue, but I am still not sure it solves the problem everywhere and I'll take some more time to check other sites & more cases.

As for the files - Once a file is deleted from the account it is deleted from the storage and from the DB, no traces left. I do not think such a file can be delivered again, it would be too weird - the distribution process just does not have it, physically.

Fotolia: Files delivered to Fotolia go directly to the approval queue, as long as they have all the metadata in place. The same is correct for iStock and many others. So @zenpix' original question is the right one - does Fotolia count that?

@zenpix: Personally, I do not believe that FT takes in account the uploaded/accepted ratio. Playing with my account I got 247/9 uploaded/selected ratio at the moment, because I mostly delete the uploads when they arrive. Yes, the total number of uploads is displayed (why, Fotolia, why is that? Just yet another confusing unhelpful number, quite unique among other microstocks!) - but it would be illogical for any agency to consider such a ratio.

Should contributors be "punished" for their uploads if they decide to remove pictures before they are landed on the inspectors' desks? Since the upload/removal does not waste the inspectors' time the logical answer would be "No, that's fine for us, we do not mind". In opposite, being an agency I would endorse that - if you are not sure about your uploads please go and remove them now, before they are reviewed - it's great for us, it saves our time and money!
- just my opinion, anyway
« Last Edit: December 10, 2010, 03:43 by davidm »

« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2010, 03:20 »
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Fotolia: Files delivered to Fotolia go directly to the approval queue, as long as they have all the metadata in place. The same is correct for iStock and many others. So @zenpix' original question is the right one - does Fotolia count that?

Hi David,
the problem with pushing files straight to the FT approval queue is that we cannot add model releases at that stage. Good for still life, but not for images showing people  ;)
Keep on the good work!

« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2010, 15:43 »
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the problem with pushing files straight to the FT approval queue is that we cannot add model releases at that stage. Good for still life, but not for images showing people  ;)
Keep on the good work!

Thank you Diego.
You are right, it's an issue I have to address - will take care of that.

As a side note, Fotolia is probably the only microstock which allows only one option to manage an image in the approval queue - to delete it, that's it.
So much choice indeed. Others micros allow editing of images directly in the approval queue or taking them out of the queue for editing and resubmission.


Just finished working on the over-delivery issue, with particular attention to Fotolia and DepositPhotos submissions reported above.
Hope we are good to go now.

The files distribution is switched on.

microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2010, 15:50 »
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Thanks, David
I am trying to upload a few files and will post results here soon.

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Update - I finished uploading 5 pictures. The duplicated upload problem seems solved, but there are still some issues. Here is the report:

Phase 1 - FTPing to your "upload" folder using crossFTP (free version 1.65)

3 files uploaded correctly at first try

1 file uploaded twice

1 file uploaded after many retries (error: "[R3] Failed to get attributes of /upload/glasgow-cathedral_p9169344.jpg")


Phase 2 - Assigning to channels

4 pictures assigned correctly

1 picture gave this error: "Error: some media cannot be assigned to channels / Please fix the following issues / Minimal image resolution is 4 MP, got 3.77 MP"
which is not true, since this picture is 1942 x 2210 pixels: about 4.3 MP considering 1K=1000, or still > 4 MP considering 1K=1024

Phase 3 - Distribution to channels

CRE,DT,FT,SS,YAY,123,CC: upload ok, and pictures automatically submitted to the queue

SS*,BIG,CAN,DT, upload ok  but waiting to be submitted (*as expected since you said files are uploaded through FTP)

DP: 2 pictures uploaded; 3 lost somewhere, marked as uploaded on LightBurner stats but not showing on site

PM: pictures marked as uploaded but not showing

All custom FTP channels ok except VEER (must have something to do with SFTP)

IS and Alamy not tried yet (because I don't have free slots / upsized files at present)

Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2010, 03:49 by microstockphoto.co.uk »

« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2010, 04:48 »
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Thank you for the great report!

- Phase 2: minimal resolution bug - fixed.

- Phase 1: I'll get into checking crossFTP and other clients later on. There are many S/FTP clients and they definitely can behave differently. It's quite a pian to check each one on the server side with all the possible clients' bugs, mis-interpretation of SFTP protocol and their handling of the possible connection interrupts.

Meanwhile I would suggest simply to use the most tested SFTP client FileZilla, available for all platforms. Never had issues with mass-upload with this one.
If we got any issue with FileZilla will try to fix it ASAP.

- Phase 3: - Let me put the things in some order...

SS and DT uploads are over FTP because this way their upload systems work. So I can not do too much but just leave the images in 'waiting for submission / unfinished' zone on both sites.

BigStock - I think I actually can push images directly into the approval queue, will check it out.

DepositPhotos and PantherMedia - will check what are the problems there.

Veer - will be added to the list of supported sites at the next week, so you can just wait a few days.
As for FTP, they say "FTP over explicit TLS/SSL"...  This mode is not supported at the moment for Custom Channels. I can add it if there is a strong demand for FTP-over-SSL (this is not the same protocol like SFTP)

Thanks!

microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2010, 05:36 »
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Thanks! I really appreciate your project so I will do all I can to help testing.

I will try Filezilla. I was using crossFTP because the same client is available for all OS we use (besides Windows, Linux eeebuntu on a netbook for nightly uploads - Filezilla doesn't work there).

The only site I am aware that is using FTP-over-SSL is Veer, so since you will add it to standard channels it's not a priority for me.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2010, 08:12 by microstockphoto.co.uk »

« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2010, 06:56 »
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I haven't tried this tool, i'm planning to test next days.
So, if understand, files are submitted to approval queue also, like microstocksubmitter?
That's a good idea, but for people like me, who are on other platform than US on Fotolia, it could be a problem, because we have to select the keywording language before submit! Can you please include this option before uploading?
Another request: can you also add the capacity of reduce pictures size for some sites, like in Insyndica, that's really important!
Thanks

Fotonaut

« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2010, 07:57 »
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Another request: can you also add the capacity of reduce pictures size for some sites, like in Insyndica, that's really important!

Extremely important feature. Better yet, the ability to choose picture size for every submission.

« Reply #45 on: December 11, 2010, 10:08 »
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So, if understand, files are submitted to approval queue also, like microstocksubmitter?

Hmm... Let's say like ProStockMaster? Sounds better to me :)
ProStockMaster does it for a couple of sites at the moment, LightBurner does it for much more agencies.
Also note Diego's comment above - it is not always that good. I'll take care of both scenarios soon.

Another request: can you also add the capacity of reduce pictures size for some sites, like in Insyndica, that's really important!

Extremely important feature. Better yet, the ability to choose picture size for every submission.

Thanks for the suggestion!

The good news is that scaling down an image at the server side is a piece of cake.

The bad news is that I am not sure I completely understand this use case.

Why to scale down images? What agencies would prefer to get a smaller picture instead of the bigger one and why? They all "sell pixels" at the moment, so the bigger image you give them the more they earn and the bigger are your commissions, at least theoretically. Where I am wrong?
« Last Edit: December 11, 2010, 10:48 by davidm »

« Reply #46 on: December 11, 2010, 10:42 »
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Why to scale down images? What agencies would prefer to get a smaller picture instead of the bigger one and why? They all "sell pixels" at the moment, so the bigger image you give them the more the earn and the more you can get in your commissions, at least theoretically. Where I am wrong?
We might not want to sell out fullsize images for a subscription price (for instance, shutterstock).

WarrenPrice

« Reply #47 on: December 11, 2010, 10:56 »
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Why to scale down images? What agencies would prefer to get a smaller picture instead of the bigger one and why? They all "sell pixels" at the moment, so the bigger image you give them the more the earn and the more you can get in your commissions, at least theoretically. Where I am wrong?
We might not want to sell out fullsize images for a subscription price (for instance, shutterstock).

I think most of us downsize images, David, especially to any subscription sites.

Fotonaut

« Reply #48 on: December 11, 2010, 12:17 »
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I think most of us downsize images, David, especially to any subscription sites.

Yup, exactly. I only send 4.5 mpix to sites with subscription. Also, though my camera deliver 18 mpix, sometimes I feel safer scaling down somewhat with regards to quality, and some sites are stricter than others.

« Reply #49 on: December 11, 2010, 14:02 »
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Yes davidm, to downsize pictures for subscription sites like shutterstock is important, we can't sell the same image for the same size at so much different price between for example shutetrstock and istock.


 

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