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« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2009, 20:25 »
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Not to be rude but sounds like a scam, he/she has replied to a few people without saying what sean (and anyone remotely interested) would like to hear about terms and conditions.  No link to a business, nothing at all really.  


What do a bunch of microstockers know about reading terms and conditions anyway?  Aren't these the same people that are ecstatic to sign up with any microstock agency that will accept them then turn around and complain about the commission rates, rejections, and piddling returns they signed up for?

You don't have to be a super hound like Dingo to sniff out a guy signing his posts "Peter" with a "fotoart" e-mail in Canada.

http://www.fotoart.ca/store-history.html


traveler1116

« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2009, 21:34 »
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What do a bunch of microstockers know about reading terms and conditions anyway?  Aren't these the same people that are ecstatic to sign up with any microstock agency that will accept them then turn around and complain about the commission rates, rejections, and piddling returns they signed up for?

So you aren't a microstocker?  Why are you here then?

m@m

« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2009, 21:37 »
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Not to be rude but sounds like a scam, he/she has replied to a few people without saying what sean (and anyone remotely interested) would like to hear about terms and conditions.  No link to a business, nothing at all really.  


What do a bunch of microstockers know about reading terms and conditions anyway?  Aren't these the same people that are ecstatic to sign up with any microstock agency that will accept them then turn around and complain about the commission rates, rejections, and piddling returns they signed up for?

You don't have to be a super hound like Dingo to sniff out a guy signing his posts "Peter" with a "fotoart" e-mail in Canada.

http://www.fotoart.ca/store-history.html


...men!, there is that darn dog smell again...
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 08:36 by m@m »

« Reply #53 on: September 01, 2009, 18:02 »
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Your right I should have been more clear in my initial post, maybe this will help? I'm not to sure how I could scam anyone? Specially if I pay for the hi resolution file before I even get them.

 
Basically I help locating photographers and images for an agency based in NYC. They specifically supply images and editorial content to the newspaper market. So your typical stock like image that you see in a special advertising section is what they are looking for. Usually what my photographers do is send me a quantity of images all at low resolution and generically watermarked. I submit them and eventually the agency puts in an order for what they are looking for at that time. Currently I do work with stock photographers who are on iStock and they send me "seconds" images that they have edited out. Simply put it's a way of getting some extra revenue for selling images that you already have a decent inventory and would otherwise not be sold. My guys love this because they use this money to buy neat camera gear as toys. Being a camera store owner I usually give them a good deal. The agency pays $70.00 per accepted image, not lots but they buy in volume often $2000-$3000 at a time, based on what is submitted. Also I pay immediately upon receipt of the hi-res files. In somes cases even before I receive them until I develop a repore with the guys.
 
Some say I buy images that end up in the trash can!!!
 
Based on this, any questions? I do this as a part time hobby, my real job is a camera store owner www.fotoart.ca
 
Let me know what you think.
 
Cheers
 


« Reply #54 on: September 01, 2009, 18:52 »
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So you are trying to procure full copyright to be transferred to an agency that is licensing wholly owned content.  Basically a stock house that pays you once for stock.  What kind of contract is involved.  What license are the images sold under?  What transfer of releases is needed?

« Reply #55 on: September 01, 2009, 19:21 »
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So you are trying to procure full copyright to be transferred to an agency that is licensing wholly owned content.  Basically a stock house that pays you once for stock.  What kind of contract is involved.  What license are the images sold under?  What transfer of releases is needed?

The people I sell to are not "technically" a stock site. They have subscribers. In order to obtain images you must pay a monthly subscription fee, you then have password protected access to their site, the images are then used as fillers in ad sections of newspapers, or editorial the odd time or included as a background in an ad.

The conditions of the sale is fairly easy, the photographer must have model releases, the photographer retains all rights to the image, with one exception it can't show up on another stock site. You can sell it on your own over and over. They buy in blocks of images. I had one photographer spend 1 hour shooting his new car and he made $1200.00

They also have shot lists. This revenue stream is not for everyone, but I have friends who love to make $1000.00 for a day of shooting the family and friends.

« Reply #56 on: September 01, 2009, 20:08 »
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So you are trying to procure full copyright to be transferred to an agency that is licensing wholly owned content.  Basically a stock house that pays you once for stock.  What kind of contract is involved.  What license are the images sold under?  What transfer of releases is needed?

Sean,

I appreciate the interest and the debate. It was a learning curve for me, I'm going to let this go for a few weeks and try the post again but with the volume of my new knowledge, mainly being extremely specific of what I'm offering. I visited your site and you are way past what I can offer. Unless you want to sell photo scraps for what I pay.

Like myself their are others out there that do this as a paid hobby, either hope to make a few bucks or always be outfitted with new cameras and exotic lenses. I have had success giving my photog friends cameras and making them supply images to pay it off.

m@m

« Reply #57 on: September 01, 2009, 20:13 »
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Fotoart, I think that if at the beginning you would have come clean with the details of you proposal, it would have being allot easier on you and lot less speculations on our part, wether you were trying to scam us or not, you have to understand that your initial sales pitch was kind of lame and left lots of folks on this forum wondering where exactly you where coming from, now if you could only answer sjlocke's questions, the missing gaps of your proposal will be filled, and then, you'll have people paying attention to what it is that you're selling, I'll tell you, it's an interesting idea, now that we know some of the facts...

"Sorry you post came in while I was writting mine"
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 20:24 by m@m »

« Reply #58 on: September 01, 2009, 20:27 »
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I hate to say it but with the simplicity of digital camera now, every one is a stock photographer.


Then why don't you take your own?





« Reply #59 on: September 01, 2009, 20:44 »
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I hate to say it but with the simplicity of digital camera now, every one is a stock photographer.


Then why don't you take your own?

I answered this before, I DO TAKE MY OWN, but I also have a full time job. It started with helping my friends supplying images. I don't have more time to shoot and I'm trying to help out people who have images to sell.






lisafx

« Reply #60 on: September 01, 2009, 20:54 »
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As the details are filled in, it doesn't look like a scam to me.  However it does look like competition for the micro sites we are on.

My worry is that if I sold some of my out-takes from series that I have on the micros it might cut into my micro sales, which ITLR should net me more. 

But as I said, if this was for editorial images that I don't have on the micros I would be all for it.  Just not for my model released stuff.


« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2009, 21:38 »
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Fotoart, I think that if at the beginning you would have come clean with the details of you proposal, it would have being allot easier on you and lot less speculations on our part, wether you were trying to scam us or not, you have to understand that your initial sales pitch was kind of lame and left lots of folks on this forum wondering where exactly you where coming from, now if you could only answer sjlocke's questions, the missing gaps of your proposal will be filled, and then, you'll have people paying attention to what it is that you're selling, I'll tell you, it's an interesting idea, now that we know some of the facts...

"Sorry you post came in while I was writting mine"

I don't get the sense now he was trying to be overtly sneaky.  It sounds like he's more used to hanging with his buds hashing out whatever the deal is.  We are a different kindof group that needs more than that.

Last question.  What do you get out of it?

« Reply #63 on: September 02, 2009, 19:34 »
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Fair question, I make $10.00 per sold image. As i said this is a hobby..

Cheers


 

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