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Title: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: lostintimeline on October 20, 2021, 05:40
hi i ve been composing some music lately and i ve bee posting it in youtube and tik tok
i used two wallapers from my pc as a background to my music .when i played somewhere over the rainbow in the piano and i used  a movie poster of wizard of ozz it was shadowbaned in tik tok.they use AI and the AI saw it as a copyright thing
i found this page free images.com and if offers high quality images as roylalty free.some people take these images cause these are public domain and sell it in stock sites
i dont want to sell these images,but i wanna use them as backgrounds to my music for yt and tik tok
so my qs is can i do that? cause it says the site is royalty free images.i dont want to get warnings in the future from yt .
is anyone else using these from these sites to your project?
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: Firn on October 20, 2021, 05:57
Royalty free doesn't mean "free to use". Royalty free  means once you purchased a licence you do not need to pay royalties or license fees for each use if you want to use the image multiple times.

Public domain is a different thing. For an image to become an public domain image the image must be older than 1964 and (!) the copyright owner must not have renewed copyright or, for newer images, the copyright owner dedicated the image to the public domain. In the case of the original Wizard of Oz movie, it seems to be a tricky case:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/11325413190/appeals-court-to-determine-if-wizard-oz-images-can-be-retroactively-plucked-out-public-domain.shtml (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110221/11325413190/appeals-court-to-determine-if-wizard-oz-images-can-be-retroactively-plucked-out-public-domain.shtml)
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: cascoly on October 20, 2021, 15:00
freesites are dangerous - just because they say images are free to use doesn't make it so.  better to use public domain images from the source - eg NY public library & NY metropolitan Museum both of which have enormous collections
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: lostintimeline on October 20, 2021, 17:58
ok thanks for the answers..that saved me lots of trouble
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: k_t_g on October 20, 2021, 22:54
Or you can get a friend and make pics for you or if you have some experience take them your self. Lots of options.  :)
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on October 21, 2021, 07:23
freesites are dangerous - just because they say images are free to use doesn't make it so.  better to use public domain images from the source - eg NY public library & NY metropolitan Museum both of which have enormous collections
So much this. A lot of these sites don't care what people upoad to them claiming to be public domain.
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: For Real on October 21, 2021, 08:05
ok thanks for the answers..that saved me lots of trouble

might have saved you from retaining a lawyer  8)
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: Wilm on October 21, 2021, 09:17
hi i ve been composing some music lately and i ve bee posting it in youtube and tik tok
i used two wallapers from my pc as a background to my music .when i played somewhere over the rainbow in the piano and i used  a movie poster of wizard of ozz it was shadowbaned in tik tok.they use AI and the AI saw it as a copyright thing
i found this page free images.com and if offers high quality images as roylalty free.some people take these images cause these are public domain and sell it in stock sites
i dont want to sell these images,but i wanna use them as backgrounds to my music for yt and tik tok
so my qs is can i do that? cause it says the site is royalty free images.i dont want to get warnings in the future from yt .
is anyone else using these from these sites to your project?

There was a website of a provider of vacation accommodation. This page was full of microstock photos. The company had bought the images but for what reason ever marked them as public domain images in the imprint. Name of the [email protected] (creative commons). The page is obviously not accessible at the moment. I currently get an error message that the site is not secure. But I can make a screenshot from google search.

But what I want to say is: You can't always be sure that an image that is shown to you as public domain has ended up there legally or by mistake. I personally assume that this applies to a lot of images.
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: cathyslife on October 21, 2021, 21:02
And lots of images on the free sites are stolen images so you have to investigate just to find the original copyright owner. Best to pay for a license to use the image you want.
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: lostintimeline on October 22, 2021, 19:20
actually i am into photography also so i will post some of my images as backgrounds,and i might use images from public domain sites like the metropolitan site or the ny public library.i checked the metropolitan site it was mentioned above and you can use images with no probs in your project
once again thanks for the answers /i went and removed some videos i posted with images from the site. freeimages.com  imediatelly .
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: For Real on October 23, 2021, 09:25
And lots of images on the free sites are stolen images so you have to investigate just to find the original copyright owner. Best to pay for a license to use the image you want.

If only all followed that process-- we would have some nice $$ in our pockets for our hard work  8)
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: kall3bu on October 23, 2021, 10:23
To be honest:
If I were not somebody selling my photos on stocksites, I would not know the meaning of royal free!
If I would have to search for FREE photos as a customer - better consumer - without my knowledge background as stockphotographer, I would think royal free means FREE.

It is little bit similar to contracts: Who reads that small letters/text in contracts? So I am pretty sure that many many customers just take that royal free images and think they are really free to use. -Especially on FREE PIC and free images Sites. Their names already move the consumer in the wrong way of thinking!
I am also pretty sure, if the stockphoto industry would have taken another word for that royal free images, there would be much less using the images in a wrong way!
unlimited use price would be much better instead of royal free.
But nowadays everything has to be named something with FREE because all people are expecting things for free and search for free things.
Title: Re: Using Royalty free images from public domain sites
Post by: Uncle Pete on October 25, 2021, 13:54
actually i am into photography also so i will post some of my images as backgrounds,and i might use images from public domain sites like the metropolitan site or the ny public library.i checked the metropolitan site it was mentioned above and you can use images with no probs in your project
once again thanks for the answers /i went and removed some videos i posted with images from the site. freeimages.com  imediatelly .

Just for some further knowledge, Wizard of OZ the film, 1939 - there are no Public Domain images from that film for 95 years, which with any luck, we will see that in 2034. You can just remember the USA 95 years and if it's not that long, don't even bother with claims or what's free to use. After 1963 will be 120 years = 2083. Not something I'll ever see.

Or another easy way to figure it. 1926 or before, the copyright in the US has expired, even if renewed.