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Title: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: rjmiz on March 29, 2008, 21:23
DATE LINE March 29, 2007

It has been reported Mostphotos members are forming alliances with one another and instituting gang warfare!

Nightly raids by one gang on another, delivering  the rival gang members with
copious amounts of low ratings of all "1's" and sneaking then back to their respective portfolios, and hiding among their images have been observed.

Digital warfare has broken out out -  People are getting emotionally assassinated and sales are beginning to suffer as a result.

An insider has reported that one side is developing a "nuclear comment bomb". This device if unleashed will not only devastate the opposing side with a total oblivion of "1's" but will
also leave nasty comments about the authors images as well. " I hope my sales don't suffer" reported one witness. and another stated it has cost him thousands in therapy sessions with his therapist. "This site is costing me more money than I make here" he reported.

There are no signs of any scheduled peace talks in the future. It is hoped that the owners
of the site will be able to initiate some sort of settlement soon.

For Microstockgroup News, this is your reporter - The MIZ

Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: leszek on March 29, 2008, 21:41
Funny  :D  but it is not that bad.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: Clivia on March 30, 2008, 02:48
Funny;  ;D it's nearly that bad.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: fotografer on March 30, 2008, 02:54
I won't sign up with them until they sort all this rating nonsense out.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: graficallyminded on March 30, 2008, 16:30
hahah!  You're an idiot, Bob.  I love you man.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: sharpshot on March 30, 2008, 18:19
If you dish out 1's, you will get them on your images.  There are probably gangs going round dishing out 10's hoping people will reciprocate.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: suwanneeredhead on March 30, 2008, 18:55
If you dish out 1's, you will get them on your images.  There are probably gangs going round dishing out 10's hoping people will reciprocate.

 :D
Y'all are funny!

I agree with Sharpshot, whatever you dish out, it'll come back to you, just like in real life.

And its NOT that bad, its great! Its fun and we are all enjoying doing it... if nothing else its a way to have fun with the tight-knit community we are. Its harmless, y'all!  Why do people get all bent out of shape about it? Not going to join until its straightened out?  That seems like a silly reason not to join if its a great site (it is) and its making money (it is).
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: rjmiz on March 30, 2008, 19:04
"I won't sign up with them until they sort all this rating nonsense out"

We had a meeting and we voted. We would appreciate it if you would not join at all.

We recognize you as one of the top stock photogs and think it would be in OUR best interest
if we kept the good people out for now.

Please consider us in the future when your life is not so perfect.

The MIZ
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: RT on March 31, 2008, 01:25
And its NOT that bad, its great! Its fun and we are all enjoying doing it... if nothing else its a way to have fun with the tight-knit community we are. Its harmless, y'all!  Why do people get all bent out of shape about it? Not going to join until its straightened out?  That seems like a silly reason not to join if its a great site (it is) and its making money (it is).

Call me old fashioned but I always believed the main idea behind stock photography was to make money from your photos not to "have fun and be part of a tight-knit community" , if I wanted to be part of a tight-knit community I'd join my local photo club.

Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: Clivia on March 31, 2008, 01:41
And its NOT that bad, its great! Its fun and we are all enjoying doing it... if nothing else its a way to have fun with the tight-knit community we are. Its harmless, y'all!  Why do people get all bent out of shape about it? Not going to join until its straightened out?  That seems like a silly reason not to join if its a great site (it is) and its making money (it is).

Call me old fashioned but I always believed the main idea behind stock photography was to make money from your photos not to "have fun and be part of a tight-knit community" , if I wanted to be part of a tight-knit community I'd join my local photo club.



Too true.

Wanna be in my gang?
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: rjmiz on March 31, 2008, 01:50
OK it time for a revolution. I say we storm all the stock sites....all of us at once. Then we take down all their servers.

Then we proceed to their corporate  offices, to rip open the safes and steal all the money.
No more pushing us little guys around as long as we all stick together.

lets go!
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: fotografer on March 31, 2008, 01:55
LOL  That put me in my place. Actually it's so time consuming to upload to a new site that I find any excuse not to unless its proved a really good money maker which this doesn't particularly seem to be.

"I won't sign up with them until they sort all this rating nonsense out"

We had a meeting and we voted. We would appreciate it if you would not join at all.

We recognize you as one of the top stock photogs and think it would be in OUR best interest
if we kept the good people out for now.

Please consider us in the future when your life is not so perfect.

The MIZ
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: sharpshot on March 31, 2008, 02:03
And its NOT that bad, its great! Its fun and we are all enjoying doing it... if nothing else its a way to have fun with the tight-knit community we are. Its harmless, y'all!  Why do people get all bent out of shape about it? Not going to join until its straightened out?  That seems like a silly reason not to join if its a great site (it is) and its making money (it is).

Call me old fashioned but I always believed the main idea behind stock photography was to make money from your photos not to "have fun and be part of a tight-knit community" , if I wanted to be part of a tight-knit community I'd join my local photo club.



I have had 5 sales so far at around $19 each.  Not bad for a new site.  It is nice to get paid in euros that are going up against sterling.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: Arian on March 31, 2008, 03:54
I think I have said this a thousand times now here on this forum, but I do it again.

1) The ratings and comments does not have such a big impact on the index. Number of sales and views from buyers is the big variables.

2) Why not have fun at the same time as making money. But if you don't want to just don't participate on the community. You don't even have to log in, though you will get an email as soon as you have sold photos. Then log in request the withdrawal, and then don't come back ītill you sell again.
We have a lot of members enjoying the community.

3) It is not true that sales has been suffering because of the ratings. Those figures are not public, where did you get that from. Second of all buyers don't see any comments, ratings or index. How can they then be affected.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: PecoFoto on March 31, 2008, 04:43

3) It is not true that sales has been suffering because of the ratings. Those figures are not public, where did you get that from. Second of all buyers don't see any comments, ratings or index. How can they then be affected.

They may not see them but they affect how high up your images appear in a search.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: Arian on March 31, 2008, 05:15
Then I reffer you to the first point that I wrote..
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: leaf on March 31, 2008, 05:22

3) It is not true that sales has been suffering because of the ratings. Those figures are not public, where did you get that from. Second of all buyers don't see any comments, ratings or index. How can they then be affected.

They may not see them but they affect how high up your images appear in a search.

arian is the owner / rep for most photos.  he just said that the voting has very little affect on the rankings of your images.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: PecoFoto on March 31, 2008, 05:25

3) It is not true that sales has been suffering because of the ratings. Those figures are not public, where did you get that from. Second of all buyers don't see any comments, ratings or index. How can they then be affected.

They may not see them but they affect how high up your images appear in a search.
Then I reffer you to the first point that I wrote..
I think I have said this a thousand times now here on this forum, but I do it again.

1) The ratings and comments does not have such a big impact on the index. Number of sales and views from buyers is the big variables.


You have made a valid point to ditch the voting and rating system if it has little effect why keep it?
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: Arian on March 31, 2008, 05:27
Then I reffer you to my point nr 2 and specially the last row.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: PecoFoto on March 31, 2008, 05:41

3) It is not true that sales has been suffering because of the ratings. Those figures are not public, where did you get that from. Second of all buyers don't see any comments, ratings or index. How can they then be affected.

They may not see them but they affect how high up your images appear in a search.

arian is the owner / rep for most photos.  he just said that the voting has very little affect on the rankings of your images.

I've been very happy with the votes I've received.

I have noticed though that a couple of top stock photographers have received ridiculously low votes on some of their top images. This my be out of jealously or the people voting may just not like the photo.

Perhaps Arian could introduce a feature whereby if you vote lower than a 5 you have to include a comment to say why. This may stop voting for purely malicious reasons.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: Arian on March 31, 2008, 07:01

Mostphotos has a more complex and intelligent backbone that is not showing on the outside. I will not go in to the technical details, but for example if you behave bad on the site, like in this case, voting low on pictures that does not deserve it, it will affect your trustworthiness. So what I want to say is that if you in someway behave badly, the site will automatically notice that and your reliability will go down, and next time your word will be less worth.

So in other words by behaving badly you just destroy for your self.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: vphoto on March 31, 2008, 07:27
"the site will automatically notice"

It would be much appreciated if the site will automatically attract more customers.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: Arian on March 31, 2008, 07:29
me to  ;D


That is the big nut to crack.
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: graficallyminded on March 31, 2008, 07:33
I've got it...  BUMPER STICKERS!!  Nah, those only work if each of use stuck them on our foreheads and walked around Time's Square in New York City.  Even then people would just think we were weirdos.   ;D
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: RT on March 31, 2008, 07:34

3) It is not true that sales has been suffering because of the ratings. Those figures are not public, where did you get that from. Second of all buyers don't see any comments, ratings or index. How can they then be affected.

They may not see them but they affect how high up your images appear in a search.

arian is the owner / rep for most photos.  he just said that the voting has very little affect on the rankings of your images.

Strange then that when you do a search the highest ranked images appear before the lower ranked ones, which off course is what most people would expect.

Weird though because as he clearly stated they designed the whole ranking system for no apparent or logical reason other than to be a bit of fun.

Now why don't other sites think of this, have a ranking system but don't actually use it to rank the search results - brilliant!!!!!
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: vphoto on March 31, 2008, 11:47
me to  ;D


That is the big nut to crack.

Invest heavily in Google AddWords. We have found your site. let others do the same via google.  :)
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: Contakt on March 31, 2008, 11:52
I've got some TIT wh o consistently comments on my stuff. I'm pissed!!
Title: Re: News Flash - Murder and mayhem errupts on MostPhotos
Post by: leszek on March 31, 2008, 19:47
Let me put it this way: everyone wants things to happen RIGHT BLOODY NOW !

Which, to me at least, is quite unreasonable. I have joined MP about 6 weeks ago. Put about 120 pics there (more is coming). Got two sales and the first payout of $40. Had some jerks rating low or high on my pics - just blocked them, as my pics do not deserve neither 1 nor 10. No biggie.

It takes some time to build a site which can reliably sell pics. So far I am happy - partly because I do not expect quick results.

What I like:

1) Non-standard approach to the site form and shape

2) Decent pricing. Maybe it will have to be dropped a bit to attract more customers, maybe not - I do not care at this stage.

3) Folks at MP are trying hard - and I am willing to give them at least a year. It is easy to shoot a (good) image, upload it somewhere, and expect riches. It is much more difficult to make a business website work - so I will wait.

4) Folks there are responsive and on the ball.

5) Easy upload, easy contact, open to suggestions, trying hard to improve anything that needs improving (and sometimes things that do not need that too  ;) )

6) Overall - a bloody good start, good concept, good approach to most things.

So - I will wait and upload as many pics as I can, even if nothing sells for months. Right now they need images - preferably good images, in any quantities. I am trying to do my bit - because a success of a site like this does happen only if the contributors ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE !

So - contribute ! If you do and nothing works for a long time - then you may have grounds for complaining. Right now - you don't.

Disclaimer: I have no association with MP other than contributing images - and as you noticed, I am NOT including my referral link. So - start contributing, and success of MP may become a self-fullfilling prophecy.

End of rant  ;D