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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2008, 16:29 »
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i don't know...i think he DOES know something....

although "V" was the latest member to subscribe today....
« Last Edit: February 12, 2008, 16:31 by anonymous »


« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2008, 20:40 »
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Pardon me and who are you? A user name that translate to "revenge" and two posts doesn't give you to much credibility in my eyes. Either you are a troll that has nothing to do with red bubble and/ or microstock in general and just enjoys trolling or you are a really a supporter of red bubble then your behaviour really sheds a bad light on them. SY

V is not a troll. V knows about what litifeta did and so do we.
litifeta is not professional - any professional person trying to build a profile for themselves on the net wouldn't send derogatory and inflammatory personal messages to people on sites when they disagree with him.

Also - these posts will be deleted by litifeta. He is well known for removing posts that object to his unprofessional behaviour.

digiology

« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2008, 21:30 »
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the plot thickens...

« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2008, 01:58 »
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I suggest we all ignore this thread from now on.

A bad case of troll infestation.


« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2008, 06:27 »
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This thread is now locked.

I suggest the disgruntled parties solve their disagreements through the proper channels.. weather it be the police, a mediator, or friendly emails and not on a public forum.

« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2008, 05:25 »
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This is really bad news... I know people who are selling well there, but the no watermark policy was still keeping out of the site.  Now this...  It's a shame.

Have you contacted management?

Regards,
Adelaide

What do you mean by 'no watermark' policy?? As in your own custom watermark? Because you can actually choose to have watermarks on your images, but you must select it, and it is one provided from RB

« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2008, 05:28 »
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As an Australian, I hate to have to admit that an Australian site is not playing fair.

Last night I had a huge fight with the organisation on a number of issues - including manipulation of a forum posting - and have cancelled my account.






Wow how exactly was your post manipulated?? I honestly am a huge mark for RB and really think what they have going is wonderful, there really isn't another site like it, though one I recently learned about "Artist Riding" http://artist.artistrising.com/Community/CommunityHome.aspx does look like it may have some promise to it! :)

« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2008, 05:36 »
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FYI on RB....
It seems some of ya postiung above may have RB mixed up with micro's, which they aren't. They are yet another avenue for revenue for your images, the print arena. I have actually done quite well on there, but the key is being active over there, think of it as kinda a flickr meets a sales strategy. I will say this, the quality of the cards and prints is pretty  nice! Seeing my work on greeting cards is something I have always dreamt of, and I am seriously thinking of ordering quite a few and hitting up some local card retailers and seeing if I can get them carried. I haven't spoke with RB yet, but I do recall something about a big discount on your own work, and also more if it's in bulk. So far I have sold 6 prints and 19 greeting cards. I am here if anyone wishes to add me http://www.redbubble.com/people/kkart or shoot the breeze sometime :)

Just remember, it isn't like a micro where you upload and 'fuhget' about it. To be seen and your art to be seen, you have to make yourself known and that does require some time and work, though not a lot. Get in groups, and most of all comment on people's work.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2008, 05:38 by kkart »

« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2008, 06:02 »
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As it stands at the moment, because of the increasing size of RB - if you don't get involved in the community your images won't be seen or go anywhere.

I don't see it as a very practical way of trying to flog your work by endlessly commenting on others - and also for the amount of time involved to have to sit at your PC for hours on end.

It's alright for people who like the community thing, have time on their hands and like to talk about "catching the flu or choosing a name for their new dog"!
« Last Edit: March 03, 2008, 06:05 by takestock »

« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2008, 06:59 »
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What do you mean by 'no watermark' policy?? As in your own custom watermark? Because you can actually choose to have watermarks on your images, but you must select it, and it is one provided from RB

They didn't have WMs.  They do now?

About ArtistRising, don't get very excited.  If you check their forum, a lot of people complain they're not selling anything there, except the images that were in Art.com before they created AR.  I can't tell much with a ridiculous portfolio of 7 images, but indeed all I sold were the old images in Art.com.  There are people there however with a huge portfolio and they say that it's only what they have in Art.com that generate any income.  Management may pick images from AR to Art.com, but it seems a rare event.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2008, 07:45 »
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As it stands at the moment, because of the increasing size of RB - if you don't get involved in the community your images won't be seen or go anywhere.
Community site is just newspeak for sites that make you lose valuable time commenting instead of doing photography  ::)

On Topic: what is the status of RedBubble now? This thread has been very confusing with the trolling. Is the site reliable and clean and was it just all gossip?
« Last Edit: March 03, 2008, 07:48 by FlemishDreams »

« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2008, 07:54 »
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What do you mean by 'no watermark' policy?? As in your own custom watermark? Because you can actually choose to have watermarks on your images, but you must select it, and it is one provided from RB

They didn't have WMs.  They do now?

I just checked and they still have the same useless watemark that they used to have - it is a very tiny amount of text in the bottom right of the picture.  It would be very easy to clone out or even crop out if someone wanted to.

I refuse to upload my images to any site that doesn't offer them decent protection (via a good watermark).  Without a decent watermark, they might as well stick the word "FREE" above your images.

« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2008, 08:36 »
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I wouldn't mind leaving comments if there were good sales but they are very poor and it just isn't worth the effort. 

Those that do well there are making a fraction of the money you can with the micros and they are spending lots of time on the site.

« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2008, 05:12 »
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As it stands at the moment, because of the increasing size of RB - if you don't get involved in the community your images won't be seen or go anywhere.
Community site is just newspeak for sites that make you lose valuable time commenting instead of doing photography  ::)

On Topic: what is the status of RedBubble now? This thread has been very confusing with the trolling. Is the site reliable and clean and was it just all gossip?

The site is clean, reliable, and well I honestly love it! Heck, if they were hiring I would send my application off to them!

I really believe in what they are doing and I will explain why....basically youhave one other model for a system like this, deviantArt, and yes I sell on there too. The difference is though is that Redbubble.com is free, 100% so, and deviantArt actually charges you a yearly fee to have a prints account! So to make anything above a mere 10% and set your own markup on deviantArt, you have to purchase a prints account there. This is non-existant with RB. I have found the staff and the owners of the RB very helpful and they are all ears and eyes when it comes to implimenting new ideas, they are big time open to suggestions. All of which can be done on the forums.

As far as the community goes, I don't mind that at all, in fact I have learned a few new techniques! It is a much more serious crowd on RB than most community art sites, where the skill level is quite high. I have seen no beginners on there for instance. They also have a referral program, where after so many refrrals you can get free prints, tshirts, greeting cards, etc.

One thing that DOES make them stand out and unique is they have taken a step forward and have actually been advertising in print magazines, something I have never seen any other site similar do...big props on that!

All in all, I say yes, go for it, it's free afterall. Nothing to lose! :)

« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2008, 05:15 »
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I wouldn't mind leaving comments if there were good sales but they are very poor and it just isn't worth the effort. 

Those that do well there are making a fraction of the money you can with the micros and they are spending lots of time on the site.

I would say true to an extent, but a lotta the images I have on RB, aren't very marketable in a micro sense. So that is where the flip side comes in...it allows me to sell more of my landscape and fine art images

« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2008, 06:36 »
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All in all, I say yes, go for it, it's free afterall. Nothing to lose! :)

Yeah, nothing to lose except your non-watermarked images that almost anyone can hijack.

Thanks but no thanks.

Like I said, anyone that doesn't respect copyright infringement and theft will never see my images.

« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2008, 10:43 »
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All in all, I say yes, go for it, it's free afterall. Nothing to lose! :)

Yeah, nothing to lose except your non-watermarked images that almost anyone can hijack.

Thanks but no thanks.


That's the reason I wouldn't upload anything there. I wrote to them and got a rather lame excuse that watermarks "... seriously impact sales."

I don't notice that happening on the microstock sites.

« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2008, 11:06 »
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Don't zazzle do everything red bubble do and more?  I uploaded a few there and had more luck than with rb.  They are also a free site but seem to have more buyers.  They even have a watermark.

« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2008, 16:25 »
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Just remember, it isn't like a micro where you upload and 'fuhget' about it.


Yes you can !  ;D
http://www.redbubble.com/people/gregorio/clothing/261505-10-fuhgeddaboudit

« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2008, 19:40 »
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All in all, I say yes, go for it, it's free afterall. Nothing to lose! :)

Yeah, nothing to lose except your non-watermarked images that almost anyone can hijack.

Thanks but no thanks.

Like I said, anyone that doesn't respect copyright infringement and theft will never see my images.

I was contacted through RedBubble by the copyright collection agency VISCOPY.  It seems one of my photographs on Redbubble was used possibly by an educational or government institution and that I was owed a royalty payment.  They got back to me today to arrange payment  ;D

So it does look like images on RedBubble are being used for purposes other than intended, I guess I just got lucky!

« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2008, 03:08 »
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All in all, I say yes, go for it, it's free afterall. Nothing to lose! :)

Yeah, nothing to lose except your non-watermarked images that almost anyone can hijack.

Thanks but no thanks.

Like I said, anyone that doesn't respect copyright infringement and theft will never see my images.

So it does look like images on RedBubble are being used for purposes other than intended, I guess I just got lucky!


That proves it! As you said, you're lucky that it was an honest agency.

I wonder how many other times are images used from Red Bubble without the copyright owner ever being aware.


 

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