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Discussion for those submitting to Depositphotos
FD:
One of their group of Russian Americans is Jaroslav74 (Shaker Heihts, United States, presumably Shaker Heights, OH) on DT. Great portfolio! But they'd better come out who really runs the shop and from where, since DT otherwise might ban this contributor. It happened before that DT banned someone that got involved in starting a competing site.
The English spelling/grammar is not that important for contributors but it is for prospective buyers in a saturated market. They might just get a bad impression and move on. If DP can find/pay virtual offices, it wouldn't be too difficult to find a freelance native American English copywriter.
It starts with the front page: "Buy photos easy" is not correct English; it should read: "Buy photos easily".
Two examples of the TOS:
Abuse, threaten, hunt down, affect a goodwill and image or any other any violate data protection rights of the third persons or other users of the Site.
The Site is operated, managed and controlled by DepositPhotos from the Florida, USA.
In general, the site looks great and very well programmed.
About security: their registration page is not https but simply http. Since I'm on public WIFI by antenna in a SE Asian city full of lurkers and hackers, I'm not going to send my personal data over a leaky line by the insecure http protocol.
Good luck!
DepositPhotos/EN:
Dear Sirs,
I will not explain the situation concerning the addresses of our offices and official representations any longer. This is silly. I am forbidden to do that, since it is not a serious topic for our discussion. I was also asked not to be engaged in empty polemics concerning the project which is now in the process of beta-testing. However, we are very grateful to all those who specified our mistakes on this stage.
We have nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to confess. And there is no one we should make excuses to. If one wishes to visit us physically – he/she may do it any time. At the moment our office is not so luxurious, but it is a real office located by the address indicated in our Contacts. The storey secretary will accompany you to the place where you will be listened and heard. Believe me, there is no need to pretend and make empty statements just for the sake of attracting several photo persons who are not able to analyze the situation and understand that such projects do not appear from scratch. At the moment the things with the project are going quite well. The base is being accumulated. Our hopes for the success are increasing.
Attention!
We do not force anyone to work with us and we do not ask for trust. It is up to you to decide whether you wish to participate in the project or not. It is your right to earn money or not. Everyone has the right to choose. Forget about us. From our part I can be just grateful to those serious people who have already started the cooperation with us. We will do our best not to let them down. We greatly value the opinion of intelligent and useful persons.
From this moment all paranoid requests will be ignored by us.
p.s. We accept photographs, vector illustrations, and raster vector illustrations.
RT:
--- Quote from: DepositPhotos/EN on November 19, 2009, 06:04 ---I will not explain the situation concerning the addresses of our offices and official representations any longer. This is silly. I am forbidden to do that, since it is not a serious topic for our discussion.
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From this moment all paranoid requests will be ignored by us.
--- End quote ---
I think knowing the details of a company is very serious if I'm to do business with them and being told by you that you have an office in London then only to find out that actually you don't is something that concerns me.
I don't think anybody has made any paranoid statements in this thread they're justing asking sensible questions concerning who they might be doing business with, if you choose to ignore those questions then that to me appears suspicious.
YOU need to gain our trust not the other way round, so far you haven't gained mine and I won't be working with you.
FD:
--- Quote from: DepositPhotos/EN on November 19, 2009, 06:04 ---I will not explain the situation concerning the addresses of our offices and official representations any longer. This is silly.
--- End quote ---
It's not. You ask people to upload all their personal data plus a passport copy via an insecure http protocol and you keep hidden yourself behind smoke screens and virtual offices. :)
--- Quote from: DepositPhotos/EN on November 19, 2009, 06:04 ---We have nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to confess. And there is no one we should make excuses to. [...] From this moment all paranoid requests will be ignored by us.
--- End quote ---
Paranoid? your network seems to be a breed of the (in)famous HeroTurko. I did some little research on your network and this is what I came up with.
1 - There is a clear link between depositphotos.com and depositfiles.com.
Not only the name prefix "deposit", but also the less-known registrar Moniker.com, and especially the "offices" in offshore tax and IP heaven Cyprus where depositphotos.com has "offices" (quote: We also have offices in Russia, Ukraine, London, Cyprus), where the depositphotos.com server is located (Cubestat, Host IP: 78.140.135.60 Site Hosted in: Cyprus) and where the owner of depositfiles.com, Bemrose Tradeinvest LTD (according to Cubestat: Host IP: 88.85.74.81, Site Hosted in: Cyprus, Owner: BemroseTradeinvestLTD) 54, Eleftherias st Parekklissia Limassol Limassol 4520 Cyprus is located.
2 - Let's now examine where most of the traffic comes from, according to Alexa, on depositfiles.com and on depositphotos.com.
Depositphotos: # 32.3% Russia, # 28.6% Belarus, # 8.5% Ukraine. Not exactly buyer's countries.
Depositfiles: Rank: # 17! in Russia, rank # 20 in Kazakhstan, rank # 24 in Belarus, rank # 27 Ukraine.
3 - So let's have a close look at depositfiles.com, probably the financier (you claimed to have deep pockets) and the programming resource of depositphotos.com.
--- Quote ---According to robtex.com:
www.depositfiles.com ("BemroseTradeinvestLTD") has eight IP numbers , which are the same as for depositfiles.com. Some of them are on the same IP network. [...] www.depositfiles.com is ranked #143 world wide as depositfiles.com Child safety of this site is poor. Trustworthiness, vendor reliability and privacy is unsatisfactory.
Similar: ba-k.com, rom-news.org, letitbit.net, heroturko.com, partypoker.com, easy-share.com, gamebookers.com, sparkstudios.com
--- End quote ---
4 - Now let's do this interesting Google search: stock photos link:depositfiles.com.
My oh my, loads of links from illegal photo download sites to depositfiles.com. The 3 first:
- Filestube (stolen business photos).
- Funrapid (stolen Amazing Girls photos)
- Art4share.net - It's nice to "share" other people's work, hey?
But let's just have a look at some "shared" Business Ladies at tinydl.com, guys. All with links on depositfiles.com:
http://depositfiles.com/files/z84m712gm
http://depositfiles.com/files/2lnlap8f5
5 - I have downloaded one set as proof: 62MB, 15 stock photos - the 11-th one, business-lady(19) 4800x3504px, downsized by me to 1024 here, and available on Photosearch here for 499$ here at high resolution.
RT was right from the start.
edit: Slight edit by admin to remove racial commentary and borderline libelous statements.
sharpshot:
^^^ Interesting but partypoker.com is one of the biggest poker sites and I haven't seen anyone complaining about them.
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