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Agency Based Discussion => New Sites - General => Topic started by: mantonino on April 10, 2009, 02:07
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Just thought I'd post this - don't plan to join.
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Hello,
I hope you're doing well. My name is Ben Anis and I work at Fotomina LTD a Micro stock agency based in Finland. You are invited to upload your photos or Illustrations (vector) and earn up to 75% commission on every photo or Illustration you sell. Please note that copyright to images belong to you. We are merely selling them for you. If you’re interested, find out how to get started at Fotomina below:
http://www.fotomina.com/pages/sell-images.html
Regards,
Ben Anis
Fotomina LTD
Eerikintörmä 2 C 26
02400 - Kirkkonummi
Finland
[email protected]
www.fotomina.com
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Here we go again! more to ponder and more to tempt us!
That logo looks awfully similar to one we are fairly familiar with ???
Me anyway, I won't be going there as I never had much success with Scandinavian sites.
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This one is going to be huge. They already got 21 photos and 13 illustrations ;) They´re all toprated, most popular and most downloaded. This is the best of the best. LOL
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LOL! This is just simply ridiculous!
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That's a single guy that doesn't even has photos. Looking at the page source, he is using some free script from a blogger, registered in Nepal. He forgot even to fill in the keywords and description metatags in the HTML head. It's a joke at its best, and an identity trap at the worst.
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That's on the front page Haha
(http://www.fotomina.com/content/6068/thumb2.jpg)
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That's on the front page Haha
From domaintools (http://whois.domaintools.com/fotomina.com) we learn that the domain has been registered 6 weeks ago, and just prepaid for one year. That he isn't on a dedicated server, but on a shared server, and that they host on WIREDTREE.COM in Chicago.
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The war started!! ;D
First, I want to say hello for everybody here, I belong to Fotomina and I like to give some answers.. In the beginning we wanted to wait sometimes before we start a thread announcing Fotomina launch here in microstockgroup forum but ... :D
This one is going to be huge. They already got 21 photos and 13 illustrations Wink They´re all toprated, most popular and most downloaded. This is the best of the best. LOL
Big 6 websites did not start with 1500000 photos and Illustrations, every stock photo site start with one photo... They start small and then they become big, if there is no photographers/contributors they won't exist. Nothing is ridiculous here.
That's a single guy that doesn't even has photos. Looking at the page source, he is using some free script from a blogger, registered in Nepal. He forgot even to fill in the keywords and description metatags in the HTML head. It's a joke at its best, and an identity trap at the worst.
Domain has been registered 6 weeks ago does not mean that we have to wait 3 years before we start inviting artists! We will move of course to dedicated server if we need to. About the script nothing is free as FlemishDreams says we paid the full script code and we are making a new version... About SEO (Search Engine Optimization) from domaintools also Fotomina.com has SEO Score: 97%... and if you can see the source code of page:
<title>Royalty free stock images and photos at Fotomina</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="/templates/template11/style.css">
<script language="javascript" src="/inc/scripts.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="swfobject.js"></script>
<meta name="description" content="Search our royalty free stock images and photos. Buy and Sell royalty free stock photos at Fotomina.com.">
<meta name="keywords" content="royalty, free, stock, images, photos, stock photography, stock images, pictures, photographs, fotomina">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<link href="/images/favicon.gif" type="image/gif" rel="icon">
<link href="/images/favicon.gif" type="image/gif" rel="shortcut icon">
There is keywords, title and description...
Thanks
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Haha, great to see there's someone behind this ;D
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Haha, great to see there's someone behind this ;D
Hi Vonkara, I will replace the Ostrich photo from featured part if you don't liked ;D
We sincerely appreciate your taking time to provide your comments and feedback about Fotomina..
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The war started!! ;D
Hahaha, you bet! This forum is the Mother of all Skepticals :P
In the beginning we wanted to wait sometimes before we start a thread announcing Fotomina launch here in microstockgroup forum but ... :D
Yes we always find out too early because we have a huge global network of spies. :D
Big 6 websites did not start with 1500000 photos and Illustrations, every stock photo site start with one photo... They start small and then they become big, if there is no photographers/contributors they won't exist. Nothing is ridiculous here.
That's not exactly true. Dreamstime, iStock, Shutterstock started with a relatively large collection with their own photos, and as you maybe know, all the CEOs of these sites are still avid photographers.
Domain has been registered 6 weeks ago does not mean that we have to wait 3 years before we start inviting artists! We will move of course to dedicated server if we need to.
True + true.
and if you can see the source code of page:
Hahahaha, great! You changed it after my post and you also removed the comment section stating the blogger where you got the code from ;D
It was there before, now it's gone. Hire me as a consultant, lol :P
Well good luck anyways! (I mean it).
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Hi
I would like to present myself, this is Anis Ben, people simply call me Ben... I do work for Fotomina, and unfortunately I am the one who is going to be in charge of answering your posts (Even it made me sweat while reading them)
First of all, I would like to thank all starting with mantonino, I ask kindly, could you please fix my name as Ben Anis ?
..."Here we go again! More to ponder and more to tempt us!"
Yes, again and again will be new photo stock site, I was watching a lot of photo stock sites started small and they are doing well now (You can ask Zymmetrical), but takesstock why "to ponder and more to tempt us" ? I hope we are not spammers as we are legally registered and we are doing legal business, maybe you are too busy and famous to join, but be sure, there are "starter" who will, and it might help them as it will help us...
"...Me anyway, I won't be going there as I never had much success with Scandinavian sites"... did you ask why? Is it because they are bad people, or they are too strict about the quality of pictures? Remember Nokia is a Finnish company; Ericson is Swedish, SAAB etc... I just advice you, keep trying or give a chance for others.
Magnum, you made me laugh myself (at least one :D)
"...This one is going to be huge. They already got 21 photos and 13 illustrations Wink They´re all top rated, most popular and most downloaded. This is the best of the best..." of course as I am the one who likes them :D (They are simply for test (as you understood it for sure)
FlemishDreams, just to let you know, we bought the same basic version what a few big photo stock site started with! Check archive.org it might help you;) Nepal, Bengladesh, India... they could be materially "poor" country but the new Silicon Valley already there !
Vonkara, "…That's on the front page…" do not laugh if I say to you that picture remind me about my ex-girlfriend :D that’s why I like it
FlemishDreams, you are right, the domain is new, and I will extend it when time comes, fotomina means something in Finnish language (check Google translator) and about wiredtree.com you really need to use their service to see why I will never leave them, I will use this thread to thanks them :D you really need to read more reviews about them and you won’t believe how positive it is ! Moving to dedicated server useless if I will be hosting only those 13 pictures:)
So, you might help me to move to dedicated server if you upload your pictures.
Finally, I would like to share with you, that I was embarrassed when I went through your posts and my face got red :) but I feel better as you gave me hint how to develop the site, and what we should pay attention to it. So, please more criticize for better future of Fotomina :)
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My comment about Scandinavian sites was in no way meant to offend.
I'm simply stating that I have had very little success with Scandinavian sites and therfore would be reluctant to join up.
And, I'm not big or famous.
You will already have noticed that people around these forums will speak their mind clearly.They have seen a lot of agencies come and go and many contributors have wasted a lot of time with very little to show for it with agencies that never got off the ground.
Thus, you are inavariably faced with this sceptism - like it or not!
All that said - I can only wish you well - everyone deserves a chance.
Hi
I would like to present myself, this is Anis Ben, people simply call me Ben... I do work for Fotomina, and unfortunately I am the one who is going to be in charge of answering your posts (Even it made me sweat while reading them)
First of all, I would like to thank all starting with mantonino, I ask kindly, could you please fix my name as Ben Anis ?
..."Here we go again! More to ponder and more to tempt us!"
Yes, again and again will be new photo stock site, I was watching a lot of photo stock sites started small and they are doing well now (You can ask Zymmetrical), but takesstock why "to ponder and more to tempt us" ? I hope we are not spammers as we are legally registered and we are doing legal business, maybe you are too busy and famous to join, but be sure, there are "starter" who will, and it might help them as it will help us...
"...Me anyway, I won't be going there as I never had much success with Scandinavian sites"... did you ask why? Is it because they are bad people, or they are too strict about the quality of pictures? Remember Nokia is a Finnish company; Ericson is Swedish, SAAB etc... I just advice you, keep trying or give a chance for others.
Magnum, you made me laugh myself (at least one :D)
"...This one is going to be huge. They already got 21 photos and 13 illustrations Wink They´re all top rated, most popular and most downloaded. This is the best of the best..." of course as I am the one who likes them :D (They are simply for test (as you understood it for sure)
FlemishDreams, just to let you know, we bought the same basic version what a few big photo stock site started with! Check archive.org it might help you;) Nepal, Bengladesh, India... they could be materially "poor" country but the new Silicon Valley already there !
Vonkara, "…That's on the front page…" do not laugh if I say to you that picture remind me about my ex-girlfriend :D that’s why I like it
FlemishDreams, you are right, the domain is new, and I will extend it when time comes, fotomina means something in Finnish language (check Google translator) and about wiredtree.com you really need to use their service to see why I will never leave them, I will use this thread to thanks them :D you really need to read more reviews about them and you won’t believe how positive it is ! Moving to dedicated server useless if I will be hosting only those 13 pictures:)
So, you might help me to move to dedicated server if you upload your pictures.
Finally, I would like to share with you, that I was embarrassed when I went through your posts and my face got red :) but I feel better as you gave me hint how to develop the site, and what we should pay attention to it. So, please more criticize for better future of Fotomina :)
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Hahahaha, great! You changed it after my post and you also removed the comment section stating the blogger where you got the code from Grin
I swear a god I did not made anything after your post I only changed the pic of the ostrich ..
Well good luck anyways! (I mean it).
Now we are talking thank you ...
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My comment about Scandinavian sites was in no way meant to offend.
I'm simply stating that I have had very little success with Scandinavian sites and therfore would be reluctant to join up.
And, I'm not big or famous.
You will already have noticed that people around these forums will speak their mind clearly.They have seen a lot of agencies come and go and many contributors have wasted a lot of time with very little to show for it with agencies that never got off the ground.
Thus, you are inavariably faced with this sceptism - like it or not!
All that said - I can only wish you well - everyone deserves a chance.
Good evening takesotock :)
I agree with you about scandinavian sites, and I understood your point, I myself do not like to deal with them :) here in finland as the weather cold in winter as people need more drink to be open for others :) but really if you get a chance to visit Finland, you will face one of the most beautiful nature in the world (I prefer norway myself:D)
"...You will already have noticed that people around these forums will speak their mind clearly"... I really did like the way people here they talk, we need a "honest" review and open talk for better community, and I've been arround here silent for several months, so I expected such answer, because our site is just lunched.
takestock, do you have any blog or can I see somewhere sample of your work ?
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about wiredtree.com you really need to use their service to see why I will never leave them
I know. I bookmarked right after reading. They have great sections on coding and on MySql. I was just amazed they used a Nepal domain. The English is that fluent that I'm sure they're not Nepalese. I hope they will continue to support you since Fotomina certainly needs a better search engine, IPTC: many beginning sites struggle with IPTC (please include newline in the keywd separation, and FTP.
Why didn't you work with lightboxphoto?
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Why didn't you work with lightboxphoto?
lightboxphoto does not meet our requirements... It's better for photographer website not for micro stock. Maybe they will make a better version on the futur ..
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Ha ha. I wouldn´t make fun of you guys if I knew you were coming here ;) Tip of the day! Make something special or nothing at all. There´s already to many flys in the soap. Good luck with mission impossible :o
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You caught us, and we´re starting to kiss *sses. LOL Maybe we´re human after all...
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You caught us, and we´re starting to kiss *sses. LOL Maybe we´re human after all...
Magnum Are you nighbour ? Är du nästa?
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I fixed your name in the first post Ben - it was just a copy/paste from the email I got. :)
I guess I got to scoop this one first because of NiltoMil - that's always fun!
If you want my support you only need to do one thing really well. You decide what that is. I think it should be allow embed in our own sites, own places - with a code that we get credit for the sales. I like FeaturePics for this now but it's not perfect.
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I fixed your name in the first post Ben - it was just a copy/paste from the email I got. :)
I guess I got to scoop this one first because of NiltoMil - that's always fun!
If you want my support you only need to do one thing really well. You decide what that is. I think it should be allow embed in our own sites, own places - with a code that we get credit for the sales. I like FeaturePics for this now but it's not perfect.
thx mantonino
that's fine, please PM me details, I will contribute ... but I will stop by this KIVA Microloan :) How sweet idea is! how good to help people and get help ! all my respect to those behind such a bank, I am sure such idea is like green tree, will grow up to give fruits to everyone!
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Hi,
I have few question which I like to know answers if possible.
What is your target market area (just Finland, scandinavia or world wide?) . I see you company has just started (registered date 18.03.2009), but how you are going to enter market and get buying customers? Does you company have venture capital or it is privately funded?
Lot of new companies are entering in the market place and many will fail because lack of funding to even get things running 6-12 months. In Finland we have had few stock agency bankcrypts in last 6 months so the entering even the local market place is not easy task to do.
br, MjP
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You are welcome mjb,
What is your target market area (just Finland, scandinavia or world wide?)
Our target market area is worldwide.
I see you company has just started (registered date 18.03.2009), but how you are going to enter market and get buying customers?
In terms of buying customers, if a buyer needs a photo or an illustration on Fotomina which is not available on other big stock photo company, he will verify first if the company is legally registered and then he will buy for sure... Unfortunately, we have few photos and illustrations but we are trying to invite Artists like you to upload their stock and we are working on vector and photo stock now. When we will have a good stock we will start our marketing project (Google sponsored results, etc...) We will give also the chance to amateur artists to upload their artwork and photos since it becomes very difficult to approve photos on Big 6 even if it's perfect and like that we will have our unique stock..
Lot of new companies are entering in the market place and many will fail because lack of funding to even get things running 6-12 months.
Don't worry... We have studied the project very well; we know what buyers need and contributors needs like:
- IPTC import.
- Good SEO.
- Minimum of 10$ payout.
- Fast approve.
- They can delete their photos anytime.
- Good support.
- Etc.
And all that is available on FOTOMINA... ;D
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- IPTC import.
- Good SEO.
- Minimum of 10$ payout.
- Fast approve.
- They can delete their photos anytime.
- Good support.
Add this:
- FTP or import of a zipped file (technically easier to program).
- The addition of the company's name, address, phone and legal status on the "About" page. Buyers are worried about that.
- Proper review of image technical quality and of the keywords. If you don't do that, you will attract a lot of amateurs uploading straight from cam, bunches of similars, and batch-added spam keywords that ruin the search result. Like YAY, you will have to spend a lot of time later to remove these shots again. Better be selective from the start. The BIG 6 are mostly right about their rejections, except for the LCV reason.
- Add an easy Model Release attach module. Most scripts like Coppermine, Lightboxphotos, yours? don't have that so you will need to program it in. Most work on a new site is to attach the MRF, so it needs to be fast and easy.
Good luck, but you are entering a very saturated market where relative newcomers like Zymmetrical and Cutcaster find it hard to survive.
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I am very happy to hear from you FlemishDreams ;D Thank you very much for your tips..
FTP or import of a zipped file (technically easier to program).
We are working on ftp access. And we can offer zipped file.
- The addition of the company's name, address, phone and legal status on the "About" page. Buyers are worried about that.
Removed .. Only name and registration date...
- Proper review of image technical quality and of the keywords. If you don't do that, you will attract a lot of amateurs uploading straight from cam, bunches of similars, and batch-added spam keywords that ruin the search result. Like YAY, you will have to spend a lot of time later to remove these shots again. Better be selective from the start. The BIG 6 are mostly right about their rejections, except for the LCV reason.
Approving is different between big 6... for example: 123rf accept photo which not approved by istock ... We will do our best while reviewing...
- Add an easy Model Release attach module. Most scripts like Coppermine, Lightboxphotos, yours? don't have that so you will need to program it in. Most work on a new site is to attach the MRF, so it needs to be fast and easy.
We will add the model release upload and the ID upload very soon... maybe in 2-4 days..
Good luck, but you are entering a very saturated market where relative newcomers like Zymmetrical and Cutcaster find it hard to survive.
We will survive ... ;D
Cheerz
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Hi,
I have few question which I like to know answers if possible.
What is your target market area (just Finland, scandinavia or world wide?) . I see you company has just started (registered date 18.03.2009), but how you are going to enter market and get buying customers? Does you company have venture capital or it is privately funded?
Lot of new companies are entering in the market place and many will fail because lack of funding to even get things running 6-12 months. In Finland we have had few stock agency bankcrypts in last 6 months so the entering even the local market place is not easy task to do.
br, MjP
I will just add 2 points staforce did not mention them; We got a fund from TEKES ( I am sure you know about it ) we would like to walk slow to be sure things runs longer time, (Finnish philosophy, isn´t ?:) ) And you are so right ! local market is so demanding, is not any easy to get things working locally, that's why we are open for world wide!
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I told myself that I wasn't going to take on anymore sites, but after reading all the posts, I'm going to venture into fotomina . Like I said before I usually stay with new sites for at least a year and give them a chance to produce sales.
What the heck,see where they go with this.
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I'm going to venture into fotomina
Thank you .. ;)
Like I said before I usually stay with new sites for at least a year and give them a chance to produce sales.
A year is fair enough to see results, I promise you..
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You are welcome mjb,
What is your target market area (just Finland, scandinavia or world wide?)
Our target market area is worldwide.
I see you company has just started (registered date 18.03.2009), but how you are going to enter market and get buying customers?
In terms of buying customers, if a buyer needs a photo or an illustration on Fotomina which is not available on other big stock photo company, he will verify first if the company is legally registered and then he will buy for sure... Unfortunately, we have few photos and illustrations but we are trying to invite Artists like you to upload their stock and we are working on vector and photo stock now. When we will have a good stock we will start our marketing project (Google sponsored results, etc...) We will give also the chance to amateur artists to upload their artwork and photos since it becomes very difficult to approve photos on Big 6 even if it's perfect and like that we will have our unique stock..
Lot of new companies are entering in the market place and many will fail because lack of funding to even get things running 6-12 months.
Don't worry... We have studied the project very well; we know what buyers need and contributors needs like:
- IPTC import.
- Good SEO.
- Minimum of 10$ payout.
- Fast approve.
- They can delete their photos anytime.
- Good support.
- Etc.
And all that is available on FOTOMINA... ;D
Is FTP Available?
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Is FTP Available?
Hi Jack Schiffer,
We do not have the automated process for auto ftp accounts but what we can do:
You send a request for FTP access to [email protected] and we will give you FTP access. you have to simply upload all your files via FTP and we will do the rest.
Regards...
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Are you using one of the established agencies as a model? To which current agency would you say your company most closely compares?
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Are you using one of the established agencies as a model? To which current agency would you say your company most closely compares?
We are using Big 6 as model ;).. We can not compare our company to any other agency for the moment maybe after one year I can answer ;D
thank you Warrenprice
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We will give also the chance to amateur artists to upload their artwork and photos since it becomes very difficult to approve photos on Big 6 even if it's perfect and like that we will have our unique stock..
not true. if an image is good, it will be accepted, no matter you are an amateur. So, this means you will aprove crappy images, and that means no buyers.
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Hi Peter,
You are IN ;D I was waiting for your reply .. You are very know in microstockgroup forum...
not true. if an image is good, it will be accepted,
Not true, we will give the chance for people who recived this message:
"We have enough of this subject already...sorry. More unique images will help your images stand out from the crowd." Since we don't have enough of all subject we can approve those images ;) but we will not aprove crappy images :)
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We are using Big 6 as model ;).. We can not compare our company to any other agency for the moment maybe after one year I can answer ;D
thank you Warrenprice
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I will also let you know in a year if I'll be uploading there, once the site has proven it self somehow, besides verbal promises (sounds too much like other sale pitchs I've heard before from other starting sites)...Peter you're very correct on your post. ;)
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I will also let you know in a year if I'll be uploading there, once the site has proven it self somehow, besides verbal promises (sounds too much like other sale pitchs I've heard before from other starting sites)...Peter you're very correct on your post. ;)
Wait and see... but maybe after one year Fotomina will be "invited only" like getty Getty ;D
BEN Helllllllpppppp...
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satforce.... I uploaded some images for viewing at first they were there,now Just a couple are there. What's up with that? thasnks
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satforce.... I uploaded some images for viewing at first they were there,now Just a couple are there. What's up with that? thasnks
Hi gbcimages, Please check your email..
Regards
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That would be a dream come true, since I can hardly wait for some new site to kick Getty's ass...but until then Ben, I wish you the best of luck in your business venture...and come on, if you make it that big, you would not invite an poor old photographer like myself to your site? ;D
Best regards.
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I am not BEN, I am satforce ..
Who know maybe the dream come true :o
if you make it that big, you would not invite an poor old photographer like myself to your site?
I am not saying we are that big.. 8) We need old photographer to learn from them..
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Wait and see... but maybe after one year Fotomina will be "invited only" like getty Getty ;D
Getty isn't invite only, anybody can apply, you pass a quiz upload a batch for review and then they tell you whether they like them and if so what collection they want your images in.
So far I'm not overly impressed wth your replies and knowledge of the stock industry.
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Wait and see... but maybe after one year Fotomina will be "invited only" like getty Getty ;D
Getty isn't invite only, anybody can apply, you pass a quiz upload a batch for review and then they tell you whether they like them and if so what collection they want your images in.
So far I'm not overly impressed wth your replies and knowledge of the stock industry.
My freind I am not here to pass an exam about the stock industry.. I'm trying to answer people.. As I know, Flickr users are all waiting for getty invitation so I know about the stock industry..
Regards ;)
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You caught us, and we´re starting to kiss *sses. LOL Maybe we´re human after all...
Magnum Are you nighbour ? Är du nästa?
Yeah I suppose I am. I´m from Sweden.
(Är du nästa???) You don´t speak Swedish, do you ;)
It should be: "Är du granne"
Good luck
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You caught us, and we´re starting to kiss *sses. LOL Maybe we´re human after all...
Magnum Are you nighbour ? Är du nästa?
Yeah I suppose I am. I´m from Sweden.
(Är du nästa???) You don´t speak Swedish, do you ;)
It should be: "Är du granne"
Good luck
Hej Magnum,
I visit often Stockholm, :) I do not speak Swedish, my wife do ;) but of course I know the basic words...
by the way I own some .SE domains :)
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As I know, Flickr users are all waiting for getty invitation so I know about the stock industry..
Yeah right, they both represent the quintessence of microstock. ;D
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i will try this agency nothing to lost... they have ftp... so i let my fille zilla work some nights... there is no work... and when they dont work... not my problem .. when they work... great
i never understand you... give a new agencie a chance.. ok you have work... but it is not work to start the fille zilla even you always keyworded in english... my pics are all keyworded in german.... Thats work to change it...
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i will try this agency nothing to lost... they have ftp... so i let my fille zilla work some nights... there is no work... and when they dont work... not my problem .. when they work... great
i never understand you... give a new agencie a chance.. ok you have work... but it is not work to start the fille zilla even you always keyworded in english... my pics are all keyworded in german.... Thats work to change it...
XeniaII, you got really very interesting stock !! Thanks for joining !
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i will try this agency nothing to lost... they have ftp... so i let my fille zilla work some nights... there is no work... and when they dont work... not my problem .. when they work... great
Thank you for giving us a chance.. ;)
i never understand you... give a new agencie a chance.. ok you have work... but it is not work to start the fille zilla even you always keyworded in english... my pics are all keyworded in german.... Thats work to change it...
I want to ask the same question, in micro stock industry, we as photographers/contributors, We are looking in the end for getting sales and making money... So what is the problem to upload on new agencies if they are legal (not like thos scams who install nulled script and start inviting artists for nothing :().. Why are you afraid from new agency! ???
regards
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I want to ask the same question, in micro stock industry, we as photographers/contributors, We are looking in the end for getting sales and making money... So what is the problem to upload on new agencies if they are legal (not like thos scams who install nulled script and start inviting artists for nothing :().. Why are you afraid from new agency! ???
regards
Maybe because none of the new sites from the past 2-3 years delivered on their promises.
Sure, they can live with what they sell, some even survive for years to come, but for the submitters, that is us, the cake has to be split in to many parts to be profitable.
Patrick H.
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I agree with you, If an agency does not split the cake with submitter of course they will fail .. :'(
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I want to ask the same question, in micro stock industry, we as photographers/contributors, We are looking in the end for getting sales and making money... So what is the problem to upload on new agencies if they are legal (not like thos scams who install nulled script and start inviting artists for nothing :().. Why are you afraid from new agency! ???
regards
Because there are already a number of successful sites where we can make sales and money, you haven't discovered an untapped supply of buyers because there isn't one, all serious image buyers already know of the existing sites and most will probably have accounts with them. So my question to you is what have you got to offer that both we (contributors) and the buyers haven't already got.
Other than that uploading to a new site would just be a waste of valuable time, and any sales would have just been diluted from another site.
The one and only way to start a new successful microstock site would be to ONLY select images from the worlds top contributors on an exclusive basis, and I'm sorry but that would only work if the person who's starting the site is a well established and known 'name' in the industry, otherwise nobody would bother.
So to answer your question "What is the problem with uploading to a new agency" my answer would be - The industry doesn't need another agency just like the one's that already exist and you're not offering anything new.
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I want to ask the same question, in micro stock industry, we as photographers/contributors, We are looking in the end for getting sales and making money... So what is the problem to upload on new agencies if they are legal (not like thos scams who install nulled script and start inviting artists for nothing :().. Why are you afraid from new agency! ???
regards
Maybe because none of the new sites from the past 2-3 years delivered on their promises.
Sure, they can live with what they sell, some even survive for years to come, but for the submitters, that is us, the cake has to be split in to many parts to be profitable.
Patrick H.
Hi Patrick,
From my point of view I think the artists or photographers will loose nothing if they would try new agency, they will be more exposed to the market, yeah, I know they may waste their time in the other side the new agency is wasting much more time and money to advertise for their arts, and if it works, both parts will benefits, and if does not work, for sure one part will loose more (the agency part, because they put effort and money, our case here :) ) , so I guess in such results, better to not put all the blame on the photo stock agency. Don't you share similar view ?
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(I did just post an answer, and was going to eat with my family :D I saw your answer, I couldn't wait to answer)
Because there are already a number of successful sites where we can make sales and money, you haven't discovered an untapped supply of buyers because there isn't one, all serious image buyers already know of the existing sites and most will probably have accounts with them. So my question to you is what have you got to offer that both we (contributors) and the buyers haven't already got.
those few successful sites what you see today, they are the lucky one whom rule the market, what about the small agency who fade away after putting effort and time and money ? you do not see them, they are like unknown soldiers... I am sure many of you did start with small agency, they were not sure in the beginning about if this online stock photo idea will work or not (I speak for people who were in the very begin of this business, if there is one here please share your experience) and due to a small agency - who offer more profits just to get place beside famous stock agency - they start to smell money, and to realize that virtual can also work, and maybe more then real world, so I am sure after that, they got the energy to look more and try more agency etc... the result unknown photographer makes more money and become known and small agency become famous or die, in both cases always the contributors are the winners. About the buyers, they never got enough otherwise why they would look for new agency ?
Other than that uploading to a new site would just be a waste of valuable time, and any sales would have just been diluted from another site.
Still contributors winners in the end :)
The one and only way to start a new successful microstock site would be to ONLY select images from the worlds top contributors on an exclusive basis,
For sure this is right, but isn't in another way limiting the creativity and the art ONLY in the hand of who are already famous ? Do you know how many skilled people are unknown just because of such system ? at least, how many amateurs lost the faith to continue the way, because someone is keeping telling them what ever you do, you will never be successful!
and I'm sorry but that would only work if the person who's starting the site is a well established and known 'name' in the industry, otherwise nobody would bother.
who is known "today" it happen that people forget him tomorrow and who is unknown today could be famous tomorrow. To make things not so serious, if you are roland-garros fun (:D as I am) check who was the supporter of the tournaments just 10 or 15 years ago, some unknown name for teenagers nowadays!
So to answer your question "What is the problem with uploading to a new agency" my answer would be - The industry doesn't need another agency just like the one's that already exist and you're not offering anything new.
Then it is the end of history :D as we do not need anymore new shops because we already have millions of shops selling everything, why to bother even to be contributors if already there are already 1000's in the market? If you will agree that every photographer has its own touch, then for sure you can't deny that also agency has their own touch ;)
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I want to ask the same question, in micro stock industry, we as photographers/contributors, We are looking in the end for getting sales and making money... So what is the problem to upload on new agencies if they are legal (not like thos scams who install nulled script and start inviting artists for nothing :().. Why are you afraid from new agency! ???
regards
Maybe because none of the new sites from the past 2-3 years delivered on their promises.
Sure, they can live with what they sell, some even survive for years to come, but for the submitters, that is us, the cake has to be split in to many parts to be profitable.
Patrick H.
Hi Patrick,
From my point of view I think the artists or photographers will loose nothing if they would try new agency, they will be more exposed to the market, yeah, I know they may waste their time in the other side the new agency is wasting much more time and money to advertise for their arts, and if it works, both parts will benefits, and if does not work, for sure one part will loose more (the agency part, because they put effort and money, our case here :) ) , so I guess in such results, better to not put all the blame on the photo stock agency. Don't you share similar view ?
Nope i don't.
Most of "your" money will come from earnings on our images. Your initial cost is starting and primary advertising.
It takes time to upload your portfolio to a new site. It takes money to upload to a new site (bandwith cost). Before you ask, i do not sent dvd's with my images. That way they would be put online at once... and i prefer gradually uploading to maintain a constant exposure.
However, seeing the same "big" names on almost every front page of stock sites isn't very encouraging uploading to a new site, considering you will most probably do the same to attract customers, and by doing so degrade the good amateur and less known pros (a lot of them with great work and portfolio) to second grade submitters, restriction exposure, leading to less sales.
As some have mentioned already, Do you have something new or unique to offer..?..
Not from my point of view.
Those are the main reasons i stay away from new sites, at least until they have proved they are worth it.
Regards,
Patrick H.
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Those are the main reasons i stay away from new sites, at least until they have proved they are worth it.
Regards,
Patrick H.
Well, only time can say :)
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I´m no big fan of giant agencies with subs and low comission. I´d love for someone like you or the 30 or so others to survive and sell photos for good money. Are you in it for the money only or do you have a genuine interest for photography?
Test: wich aperture gives shortest dof. 2.8 or 8 ? :D
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Are you in it for the money only or do you have a genuine interest for photography?
No they got funding from a Finnish near-government agency for innovative startups. :P
Test: wich aperture gives shortest dof. 2.8 or 8 ? :D
What's DOF? Oh righty, Department Of Funding. ;D
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No they got funding from a Finnish near-government agency for innovative startups. :P
HOW DO YOU KNOW :D Smile :D
I hope you were not that big ugly man, ( working security in the first floor ) who is always keeping me waiting all the time to get some paper :D :D :D
What's DOF? Oh righty, Department Of Funding. ;D
I am sure you are not that big ugly man :D because he wouldn't be able to give such answer :D
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HOW DO YOU KNOW :D Smile :D
My real day job is being a spy. :o
I am sure you are not that big ugly man :D because he wouldn't get such answer :D
As Sun Tzu said in Sūn Zǐ Bīng Fǎ (The Art of War) : 兵不厭詐。or All warfare is based on deception. You can only deceive by telling believable lies or unbelievable truths. ::)
Information gathering is practical intelligence. In your first version, you left some comment codes. I found where you got the code and Googling I found the rest. Piece of cake for a spie ;D
So do you know the answer (http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/depth-of-field.htm) to Magnum's question? ;)
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I can already see the demise of the agency,most contributors are turned off.
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I can already see the demise of the agency,most contributors are turned off.
Of course not. Standing our teasing is part of the exam ;-)
The big plus is 10$, no subs, 70%+
They still need to do a lot of coding work though.
Superfast MRF attach, FTP, proper search engine.
Everybody is craving to get out of the 0.19$ cent subs sites, so why those that try it not giving a chance?
But their road ahead is long and hard.
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their chance is slim,if any, I'll take a look a year from now and see where their at.
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look at FP,MP,CC,YAY,and several others,anyone making any real $ at these .Contributors wants to make money not waste time with a lot of new agencies that talk a lot.
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Yes I do ;), I love photography and by the way I am a Photographer, a Graphic design, an Illustrator and a Web designer in the same time. I will not say I am the best.. ::) but I know about the industry.
Test: wich aperture gives shortest dof. 2.8 or 8 ? Cheesy
2.8 , Thank you Magnum for this test :o
I think maybe one day I will publish this thread as book and I will sell it on Amazon ;D, let say "The Story behind Fotomina..", "The biggest contributor's war" or maybe "learn who to open a new Micro stock site for dummies" ;D ...
Most of "your" money will come from earnings on our images.
True but, actually, you as contributor, you will take sharp shots and then you will upload them and then wait for “ Photo Sold”, etc. And you need to know that your images will be sold because their are very nice, then because of our marketing: we will pay a lot money for advertising (Google sponsored results, Mailing list, banners, Phone Calls, Direct client contacts, Search Engine Optimization, etc.), we are paying TAXs, we are paying for a server and we are paying a domain name, we are paying for scripts and updates, we are paying for reviewers All that to Showcase Your Photos on our Website and get money and since we will get only 50%, 35% or 25 % we are not simply earn from your images... :(
It takes time to upload your portfolio to a new site.
It will not takes to upload your portfolio, we are offering FTP access ;D it means you can include IPTC and then upload your images via FTP software and then you can have a coffee if you have a good connection or you can sleep then after 10 hours your portfolio will be uploaded.. We will make the review and we will chose the category for you.. ;)
considering you will most probably do the same to attract customers,
I will not give you the plan to attract customers...
Those are the main reasons i stay away from new sites, at least until they have proved they are worth it.
Let me tell you something...
I used internet more than 13 years now, in 1999 AltaVista was the best Web search engine, we knows only about him, Yahoo and Alltheweb at this time... When I find Google search engine, I was saying: What’s this why it’s not colourful like yahoo or like AltaVista and I never use it for more than 5 search, Now my 2 years old daughter know Google...
Istockphoto was founded in May 2000 (purchased by getty for $50million in 2006)
Shutterstock was founded in 2003
Fotolia was founded in November 2004
Dreamstime Founded in 2004 (before they sell CDs from 2000)
Now we are 2009, we are not very far...
Patrick H.
Thank you
What's DOF? Oh righty, Department Of Funding.
No Comment ... :-\
I can already see the demise of the agency,most contributors are turned off.
They are not turned off... You asked me to delete you are account, because we did not approve your uploaded images. If you want, I can tell you here why they where not approved...
their chance is slim,if any, I'll take a look a year from now and see where their at.
Maybe ::)
look at FP,MP,CC,YAY,and several others,anyone making any real $ at these .Contributors wants to make money not waste time with a lot of new agencies that talk a lot.
We are not talking a lot... We are just giving answers...
Regards...
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I may be in a unique position. Being retired, time is of little importanct ... other than days left to experiment with stock photography,
Will Fotomina be accepting "Editorial Images?" My motocross legends photography includes an image of Heikki Mikkola. ;D
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I may be in a unique position. Being retired, time is of little importanct ... other than days left to experiment with stock photography,
Will Fotomina be accepting "Editorial Images?" My motocross legends photography includes an image of Heikki Mikkola. ;D
Yes we accept Editorial Images... You are welcome .. ;D
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enough said on my part,we'll wait and see!
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enough said on my part,we'll wait and see!
No, the game just started... I registered and when I went to "upload", I got this:
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 268435456 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 134217801 bytes) in /home/fotomina/public_html/admin/function/mysqldb.php on line 4
Well at least I know what Linux version the server is on now ;-)
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enough said on my part,we'll wait and see!
No, the game just started... I registered and when I went to "upload", I got this:
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 268435456 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 134217801 bytes) in /home/fotomina/public_html/admin/function/mysqldb.php on line 4
Well at least I know what Linux version the server is on now ;-)
;D See we already put FOTOMINA Beta on our logo, so be more comprehensive, some artits already uploaded more than 300 images now ;D
By the way, you are always talking about SEO, I want to let you know that we are online since 3 weeks and we are on the first and second page result on google.com for those search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sell+stock+vector&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=stock+photography+vectors+illustrations&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?q=photography+vector&hl=en&start=10&sa=N
http://www.google.com/search?q=giraffe+closeup&hl=en&start=20&sa=N
And I will write you other result on the futur ...
;D
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Yes I do ;), I love photography and by the way I am a Photographer, a Graphic design, an Illustrator and a Web designer in the same time. I will not say I am the best.. ::) but I know about the industry.
Test: wich aperture gives shortest dof. 2.8 or 8 ? Cheesy
2.8 , Thank you Magnum for this test :o
I think maybe one day I will publish this thread as book and I will sell it on Amazon ;D, let say "The Story behind Fotomina..", "The biggest contributor's war" or maybe "learn who to open a new Micro stock site for dummies" ;D ...
Most of "your" money will come from earnings on our images.
True but, actually, you as contributor, you will take sharp shots and then you will upload them and then wait for “ Photo Sold”, etc. And you need to know that your images will be sold because their are very nice, then because of our marketing: we will pay a lot money for advertising (Google sponsored results, Mailing list, banners, Phone Calls, Direct client contacts, Search Engine Optimization, etc.), we are paying TAXs, we are paying for a server and we are paying a domain name, we are paying for scripts and updates, we are paying for reviewers All that to Showcase Your Photos on our Website and get money and since we will get only 50%, 35% or 25 % we are not simply earn from your images... :(
It takes time to upload your portfolio to a new site.
It will not takes to upload your portfolio, we are offering FTP access ;D it means you can include IPTC and then upload your images via FTP software and then you can have a coffee if you have a good connection or you can sleep then after 10 hours your portfolio will be uploaded.. We will make the review and we will chose the category for you.. ;)
considering you will most probably do the same to attract customers,
I will not give you the plan to attract customers...
Those are the main reasons i stay away from new sites, at least until they have proved they are worth it.
Let me tell you something...
I used internet more than 13 years now, in 1999 AltaVista was the best Web search engine, we knows only about him, Yahoo and Alltheweb at this time... When I find Google search engine, I was saying: What’s this why it’s not colourful like yahoo or like AltaVista and I never use it for more than 5 search, Now my 2 years old daughter know Google...
Istockphoto was founded in May 2000 (purchased by getty for $50million in 2006)
Shutterstock was founded in 2003
Fotolia was founded in November 2004
Dreamstime Founded in 2004 (before they sell CDs from 2000)
Now we are 2009, we are not very far...
Patrick H.
Thank you
What's DOF? Oh righty, Department Of Funding.
No Comment ... :-\
I can already see the demise of the agency,most contributors are turned off.
They are not turned off... You asked me to delete you are account, because we did not approve your uploaded images. If you want, I can tell you here why they where not approved...
their chance is slim,if any, I'll take a look a year from now and see where their at.
Maybe ::)
look at FP,MP,CC,YAY,and several others,anyone making any real $ at these .Contributors wants to make money not waste time with a lot of new agencies that talk a lot.
We are not talking a lot... We are just giving answers...
Regards...
those same images that I uploaded are selling at other agencies. people sometime will buy a photo regardless of the quality. You have to test the water. I'm just saying,you shouldn't be so picky for a new agency,that's not going to help you at all.
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you shouldn't be so picky for a new agency,that's not going to help you at all.
I think I disagree. A new agency has to offer the highest possible quality to get buyer's attention ... and respect, even if it means slow growth.
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2.8 is correct. ;) This shows you were able to follow Flemish link...
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2.8 is correct. ;) This shows you were able to follow Flemish link...
I did not follow any link.. >:( Let me ask you a question: What we call "nice shot" in photographer language? Who we call nice lenses?
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you shouldn't be so picky for a new agency,that's not going to help you at all.
I think I disagree. A new agency has to offer the highest possible quality to get buyer's attention ... and respect, even if it means slow growth.
thank you Warrenprice at least one agree with me .. ;D
those same images that I uploaded are selling at other agencies.
Are they selling in Fotolia, dreamstime or istock ?
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some artits already uploaded more than 300 images now ;D
Amazing...
By the way don't spend too much time now on marketing and SEO. It might backfire when customers see a site with little images. I believe you that you will do the marketing and SEO very well later.
- I logged in again and I went to "My Upload" by another link - it worked now.
- No FTP, so I went to "upload a file".
- The first disappointment: there are categories, so I filled in people.
- The second disappointment: I have to click on a checkbox that I agree with the condtions on every image. Can't that just be done in the begin of a batch, like with most sites?
- There are the fields for title, description, keywords... cool. But mine are in the IPTC. So I checked "use IPTC info".
- Doesn't work - the script needs a "title" anyways. OK, I copypaste the title in and there the script goes silent... (watching my upload gauge, I can see something is uploading so I wait)
- After a while... the screen pops up with "starting upload" (when it's already finished), followed by the edit screen. Sure, the keywords and description are imported from the IPTC, but not the title.
- The largest (10MP) size is priced at 5$, the smallest one at 1$.
Compared to Zymmetrical and Cutcaster, that's still peanuts.
Bottomline: no clue how to attach a Model Release, no Model Release library, the script is still very buggy, and there are 3 unnecessary steps with each image: click on accept conditions, click on read IPTC, and copypaste the title. This is not working for uploading 1000 images....
Conclusion: I'll wait till the upload works well and till there is multifile upload or FTP. There is no FTP now...
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yes!
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2.8 is correct. ;) This shows you were able to follow Flemish link...
You are as cruel as me! :P
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The big 5 registred on Fotomina is a mission accomplished ;D When I visited South Africa they call the Lion Big5 ... Anway, I am very happy to here your comments about the website, as I told you the final version of the website need a lot of money and sometimes... So what we can do, just send me your username by email: [email protected] and I will setup an FTP account, you only need to upload files With IPTC included and I will do the rest, you can also upload the model release on FTP...
Are you happy now !?? ;D
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Are they selling in Fotolia, dreamstime or istock ?
Check people's portfolio links on the bottom and verify whether they sell where and what.
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South Africa they call the Lion Big5
FlemishDreams are you big5 ;) ? don't miss it with Mr. Google
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thats not right i have uploaded more than 1000 pics today... but than the system say: uploadlimit reached *g
so i send a email and they give me more space.... great support *g
lg yvonne
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FlemishDreams are you big5 ;) ?
Of course not. I just make the most noise ;D
Amongst the top here are many but not me. Sjlocke is, RT, Lisafx, Karimala, PatrickH, and many more I just forget now...
I won't post comment on bugs any more in public. That's not fair towards you. It gets picked up by Google. I will send that kind of info in private and I already did to your Satellite Force ;)
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thats not right i have uploaded more than 1000 pics today.
Ha, to all those that want a microstock union, see this! That's why it is doomed to fail ;D
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flemish i dont understand your comment... is it good or bad for you to upload to new sites...
i really like it.. because i dont like the big 5 or 6 or whatever....
but a new agency for me is good... i planing i food-agency in the moment in germany... so i know the work....
i really will never understand why new must be bat... i work with fotomina since 2 days and they answer to my mails within minutes... thats great...
regards yvonne
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Hallo Yvonne danke schön ..
FlemishDreams check you PM... ;)
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2.8 is correct. ;) This shows you were able to follow Flemish link...
I did not follow any link.. >:( Let me ask you a question: What we call "nice shot" in photographer language? Who we call nice lenses?
"Nice shot" is what you need badly
"Nice lenses" The ones that are heavy and expensive. Or do you have a Finnish person called "Nice lenses" since you wrote "who"? :D
No you have 1031 pic, congrats:)
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2.8 is correct. ;) This shows you were able to follow Flemish link...
I did not follow any link.. >:( Let me ask you a question: What we call "nice shot" in photographer language? Who we call nice lenses?
"Nice shot" is what you need badly
"Nice lenses" The ones that are heavy and expensive. Or do you have a Finnish person called "Nice lenses" since you wrote "who"? :D
No you have 1031 pic, congrats:)
We do not call them "nice lenses" in terms of "pro photographer"' we just call them nice Glaces ;D We call Nice shot = Sharp Shot ;D
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Where's the FTP upload information exactly. I won't upload one by one that's sure
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Where's the FTP upload information exactly. I won't upload one by one that's sure
Vonkara just send me you username on [email protected] and I will setup an FTP access for you ..
Regards
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and it works he make it for me....
wish you good luke
regards yvonne
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I like to share this:
Hi Fotomina.com,
I am delighted to let you know that your submitted photo has been selected for inclusion in the newly released seventh edition of our Schmap Paris Guide:
Eiffel Tower
www.schmap.com/paris/tours_tour1/p=2685/i=2685_56.jpg
If you use an iPhone or iPod touch, then this same link will take you directly to your photo in the iPhone version of our guide. On a desktop computer, you can still see exactly how your photo is displayed and credited in the iPhone version of our guide at:
Eiffel Tower
www.schmap.com/?m=iphone#uid=paris&sid=tours_tour1&p=2685&i=2685_56
It's very nice to see Fotomina.com appearing in such website ... ;D
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Did they pay you?
I was contacted at Flickr for one of my NewOrleans photos. They offered me a FREE credit line. >:(
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Did they pay you?
I was contacted at Flickr for one of my NewOrleans photos. They offered me a FREE credit line. >:(
No it was free, but at least the name of our website will appear for 1 month ;D
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Are you in it for the money only or do you have a genuine interest for photography?
No they got funding from a Finnish near-government agency for innovative startups. :P
Test: wich aperture gives shortest dof. 2.8 or 8 ? :D
What's DOF? Oh righty, Department Of Funding. ;D
Actual Tekes is not a "Seed/startup" funder (e.g. they fund Nokia research programs with several million euros per year). They fund innovations and technology development and research projects, not marketing, not investments (o.k. they can fund your development servers but not the production ones).
They can give you 25 or 50% of project budgets (maybe more if you are in focusing on some of their major funding programs, not sure this years situation). They can give your low rate development loan or direct support (which the company not pays back) or combination of both. Company needs to find other side of funding for project to get these money. No money paid in advance (they are paid after 6 months, 1 year or so (company must paid all salaries, taxes etc during that time)). What I know about the process it involes lot of paper work and funding is very hard to get because demand is high. There is no limit on project size (so you can get e.g. 2 million euros, but usually supported amounts are somewhat 50k-200k / year (you can download the list of suppreted companies per year from Tekes page)). Tekes funding is very good tool when you are building up new products since it lower the costs but you get all the money beforehands so real funding is needed to make the project in first place.
I must say that Fotomina has something good if they have got funding from Tekes (In next years list of funded companies we can check the amount they got).
br, MjP
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I must say that Fotomina has something good if they have got funding from Tekes (In next years list of funded companies we can check the amount they got).
I guess every government has funding schemes like that. I worked on research funds before, and it was just a lot of paperwork to write the projects. Implementation and marketing were never funded. For that you needed to team up with a private partner.
In the mean time I hooked up with "Sat" in private, and I know a bit more. He's a nice chap, but he has a lot of tough work ahead. I won't comment in public any more from now on, since that would be unethical, but I'm sure they deserve a chance. Time will tell whether they can stand the hard competition and the rat race. Chances are virtually zero, but as William of Orange said: Point n'est besoin d’espérer pour entreprendre ni de réussir pour persévérer (no need for any hope to start, no need for success to go on).
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Merci beaucoup mon ami :) Subtitle for english people: Thank you very much my freind ...
I won't comment in public any more from now on
The Good News... ;D
but I'm sure they deserve a chance
Yes we do ;)
Chances are virtually zero
At least give us 1 while it's Virtual :'(
Finallement merci pour le proverbe ..
En faite je parle 5 langues ;D
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satforce your my friend too... my pics are online *g ok i think 750 still waiting but your working thats great
lg yvonne
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I'm in with a few pics, won't hurt to give it a try.
Sat, is there any chance of a forum on Fotomina?
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satforce your my friend too... my pics are online *g ok i think 750 still waiting but your working thats great
lg yvonne
Nice to hear from you ..
I'm in with a few pics, won't hurt to give it a try.
Sat, is there any chance of a forum on Fotomina?
Hi Jerry,
Of course we will have a Forum on Fotomina, we are working on to add more features and forum... Please do not hesitate to ask me if you have any questions ...
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Just some suggestions from me:
Why do you think it is a good idea to undercut your competition (biggest file size costs only 5$ from what I can see)? Do you want to win market share only based on price?
That's a really bad idea. If you succeed you'll probably take away business from other sides that have managed to raise prices in the past - and that would simply be the wrong direction. Why not start with slightly higher prices (like 2$ for the smallest size, 20$ for the full resolution)? If you have nothing more to offer than just cheap prices, you're doomed anyway.
Another one: You state contributors can earn up to 75% from each sale. But nowhere I can find any information about specifics. What is the exact pricing scheme, what is the commission, are there any ELs available etc.
I would like to see that before I open an account.
Cheers,
Dirk
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Should I open an account too?
Everyone talks about Fotomina..
At least, even without account to them I'm sure they are better than Crestock! hehe
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Do you want to win market share only based on price?
Maybe ;D This was happend before with stock, pics as like 200 $ 150 $ and istock comes with 1$, 3$, etc... I ask the same question how come one picture for 1$ ??? and then an new industry comes wich known as micro stock sites ::)
Why not start with slightly higher prices (like 2$ for the smallest size, 20$ for the full resolution)?
Let ' talk form buyer or designers as they like to be called, why should he buy from fotomina for 2$ since the same photo is 1$ or less with credit on Big6!! :o That's way you can take a look on big 6 prices and you will see that we are similar to their prices.. 20$ can be offered of we can have extra extra size like istock but at the time we are good with our prices maybe on 2010 we will revise them .. but keep in mind 1$ x 100 download = 100 $ ;D
You state contributors can earn up to 75% from each sale. But nowhere I can find any information about specifics. What is the exact pricing scheme, what is the commission, are there any ELs available etc.
As you can see our website is Beta so we are working on website info pages.. I'll explain to you we have 3 different categories of contributors Bronze Silver and Gold based on the contributors sales we will upgrade categorie bronze 50% to Fotomina, Silver 35% and 25% in Gold..
Everyone talks about Fotomina..
I am happy to hear that.. You are welcome ibogdan ;D
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This one is going to be huge. They already got 21 photos and 13 illustrations ;) They´re all toprated, most popular and most downloaded. This is the best of the best. LOL
Today, after 5 days form your LOL :-\, we have 394 approved photos 13 illustrations and XXX Declined and XXXX waiting for approval ;D ...
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Let ' talk form buyer or designers as they like to be called, why should he buy from fotomina for 2$ since the same photo is 1$ or less with credit on Big6!! :o That's way you can take a look on big 6 prices and you will see that we are similar to their prices.. 20$ can be offered of we can have extra extra size like istock but at the time we are good with our prices maybe on 2010 we will revise them .. but keep in mind 1$ x 100 download = 100 $ ;D
Well if we're talking from the buyers point of view you're right, why would he buy from you if your prices are more than the competition, but another point to consider is why should he buy from you when your prices and images are the same (of course they won't be the same you'll have more rubbish because you'll be desperate to build up a stock of images), he might as well just stick with the site he knows and has used and has a much better selection than yours.
From a contributors point of view uploading to a new site that offers nothing that the other more established sites have will do nothing to help them, sales would be diluted from the other sites where they have been trying to build a reputation, on the big 6 the more you sell the more your portfolio will rise in the ranks, uploading to each and every agency that comes along does nothing but harm.
So I ask again - What advantage is there to a contributor by uploading to Fotomina, you haven't found any new buyers and you're not offering anything new to contributor or buyers, you're new to the industry and don't know much about it. Please explain.
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Well said, RT.
That is exactly why I asked. With what I currently see there is no incentive for me to upload anything.
And @Satforce:
Even if your site is in beta, if you expect contributors to upload the minimum information you should give them are the exact conditions (prices, commission structure etc.) they will have to agree to when they upload.
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Humm...
I think I need to hire some freelancer to help me here in this very hot topic (http://www.microstockgroup.com/Themes/adagio_115/images/topic/my_veryhot_post.gif)
;D
why would he buy from you if your prices are more than the competition, but another point to consider is why should he buy from you when your prices and images are the same
I will not answer this question because if you don't know microstockgroup forum is the biggest source of information for new microstock sites, so I can not share all our plan here with everybody even who are reading now those lines and planing to open their own micro stock site ... What I can say there is a lot of surprises we will share later on...
What advantage is there to a contributor by uploading to Fotomina
Maybe we don't have advantage but on the same time artists will loose nothing if they upload on fotomina.. :D
you're not offering anything new to contributor or buyers
You will see on the future what we are offering.. It's our secrets ... ;)
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Well said, RT.
That is exactly why I asked. With what I currently see there is no incentive for me to upload anything.
And @Satforce:
Even if your site is in beta, if you expect contributors to upload the minimum information you should give them are the exact conditions (prices, commission structure etc.) they will have to agree to when they upload.
Please read my last reply..
and we will try to add more information about conditions.
regards
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Please read my last reply..
I did. It basically says: Wait and see. That I'll do.
and we will try to add more information about conditions.
regards
That will be helpful anyway.
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Wait and see.
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Beta does not mean you don't know what you're doing, or are deciding what you will do.
Beta means you have done it, and are checking to see if it's flawed.
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Beta does not mean you don't know what you're doingBeta does not mean you don't know what you're doing
We know what we are doing but we are rewriting our pages depends of our users feedback..
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YayMicro got a lot more potential, but it was worthless anyway.
I dont believe any new site will ever suceed. Those days are over.
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I dont believe any new site will ever suceed. Those days are over.
:'( :'( :'(
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YayMicro got a lot more potential, but it was worthless anyway.
I dont believe any new site will ever suceed. Those days are over.
Agree... But I am sorry about it...
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Well, perhaps I will give it a try, in few weeks :) But please explain the categories thing. I will not upload to any other site with categories as it consumes too much time... That is why I give my stuff to smaller sites like Crestock... No categories, I upload and that is all. From my point of view, this is a must-have for any new agency.
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(of course they won't be the same you'll have more rubbish because you'll be desperate to build up a stock of images),
Be sure that we are not desperate to build up a stock of images ! and we do not accept any picture, please browse the pictures what are already accepted and you will feel it yourself, whether we are dying to get pictures, or we are selective! before we start we did study a lot what we have to avoid, Yes, we fall in some points and we are trying to fix them, but for sure we are going to stick to the quality, we do care to win you as photographer, but we will not take any pictures because we need to fill up our site, because we have long term commitment with fotomina :)
(Thanks for the supporting mails we got from real professional photographers !)
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YayMicro got a lot more potential, but it was worthless anyway.
I dont believe any new site will ever suceed. Those days are over.
Agree... But I am sorry about it...
I am sorry about that too. I whish there were BIG15, not just BIG6, but thats the fact. I would say, in reality there is BIG3 (FT, SS and DT).
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(of course they won't be the same you'll have more rubbish because you'll be desperate to build up a stock of images),
Be sure that we are not desperate to build up a stock of images ! and we do not accept any picture, please browse the pictures what are already accepted and you will feel it yourself, whether we are dying to get pictures, or we are selective! before we start we did study a lot what we have to avoid, Yes, we fall in some points and we are trying to fix them, but for sure we are going to stick to the quality, we do care to win you as photographer, but we will not take any pictures because we need to fill up our site, because we have long term commitment with fotomina :)
(Thanks for the supporting mails we got from real professional photographers !)
Well to be fair to you I took a look. Looks like you're going to corner the market on swans, garden birds and bricks. But having read your last comment obviously being in the top 100 doesn't class me as a real professional, so I'll step to the side and let all the pros that have emailed you get the sales.
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Looks like you're going to corner the market on swans, garden birds and bricks.
:D :D :D :D :D , before people complain about that ostrich :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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I can't build up any enthusiasm for another new site. Most of the ones that launched in the past 18 months have given it all they can but have only managed a few sales. If they can't do it, why would anyone else think they can?
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Hi Sharpshot,
From your username I know you are pro ;) Welcome in this war ...
I can't build up any enthusiasm for another new site. Most of the ones that launched in the past 18 months have given it all they can but have only managed a few sales. If they can't do it, why would anyone else think they can?
You have to give us a change, maybe we will succed ;D maybe microstockgroup will put Fotomina as "Sites that no longer exist" :'( but at least we need to try ...
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Hi Sharpshot,
From your username I know you are pro ;) Welcome in this war ...
I can't build up any enthusiasm for another new site. Most of the ones that launched in the past 18 months have given it all they can but have only managed a few sales. If they can't do it, why would anyone else think they can?
You have to give us a change, maybe we will succed ;D maybe microstockgroup will put Fotomina as "Sites that no longer exist" :'( but at least we need to try ...
If you look at the gauges under our icons, you will see that Richard is far more of a pro than I am. You should look at the points he makes because they are true.
I have given a few sites a chance in the past year and so far it hasn't worked out. I have to be sensible and stop uploading to new sites. It is a waste of my time unless they can come up with something different that brings in new buyers. I use over 20 sites and that is too many already.
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Let me ask you a question RT do you trust BIG 6 photo approving ? please answer ;)
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If you look at the gauges under our icons, you will see that Richard is far more of a pro than I am. You should look at the points he makes because they are true.
I did not look at the gauges my friend I am telling because you chose sharp shot as user name you are PRO and I don't think is bad to say that ???
I have given a few sites a chance in the past year and so far it hasn't worked out. I have to be sensible and stop uploading to new sites. It is a waste of my time unless they can come up with something different that brings in new buyers. I use over 20 sites and that is too many already.
I understand your point of view, but you know what? we are victims of those 20 sites.. That's what I can say..
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Let me ask you a question RT do you trust BIG 6 photo approving ? please answer ;)
I understand English is not your primary language, could you re word the question, by 'photo approving' do you mean the review and selection process?
If so then you need to understand that microstock sites do not employ their reviewers full time like some of the traditional sites do, neither do they require any qualifications or that the reviewer is a seasoned pro, you can form your own opinion on whether this is a good or bad thing. My view is that microstock sites tend to concentrate more on the technical quality of the image rather than the actual usability or stock worthiness, if you float around with the traditional stock photographers you'll find that many have struggled to get images into microstock because they're used to the image being judged on it's worth for the image content rather than whether there's a technical error no matter how small or relevant.
I think there are some very good reviewers/inspectors within microstock sites but there are also some very bad one's. The same goes for the sites themselves.
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I understand English is not your primary language, could you re word the question, by 'photo approving' do you mean the review and selection process?
I am sorry for my bad English..
You said: Looks like you're going to corner the market on swans, garden birds and bricks. I am asking you RT do you mean the photos selected on fotomina are not good ?
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i have checked your approved pics... they are good.. i dont like the serie with the bride to much shadows no good pics... but all the others good...
perhaps you must learn that you a agency now... it is not important for you what other people think *g do your way
greets yvonne
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I understand English is not your primary language, could you re word the question, by 'photo approving' do you mean the review and selection process?
I am sorry for my bad English..
You said: Looks like you're going to corner the market on swans, garden birds and bricks. I am asking you RT do you mean the photos selected on fotomina are not good ?
My fault not only is English not your first language but you probably don't understand sarcasm either so I'll explain.
They might be technically perfect shot on the worlds latest and greatest medium format camera with perfect composistion, however search the portfolios of the top 500 stock photographers in the world and you'll most probably find that there aren't that many photos of the sort that so far fill your inventory - there's a reason for that!
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Hi Yvonne,
Some users here are just writing anything... I understand if they don't want to contribute or they don't trust our company but they are destroying us...
So, I need RT answer please it very important for me...
Waitiong for you RT
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RT can you give me which shots you did not like on fotomina?
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satforce... that is not important.. they are millions of fotografers worldwide how would love your agency.... i you want i can pose in german blogs...
lg yvonne
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http://www.fotomina.com/catalog/7499.html
the whole serie is not good.. too much shadows.. no good pics sorry
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[url]http://www.fotomina.com/catalog/7499.html[/url]
the whole serie is not good.. too much shadows.. no good pics sorry
Thank you Yvonne I missed it but now it's ok..
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Satforce, you must admit that on Fotomina are many approved images that are really poor in a "stocky" value. Many of them are simply snapshots and I'm wondering who will ever pay for them as long as there are some agencies with milions of great shots. It's a compromise (I guess) that any stock site makes it at it's beginning: anything gets approved to have a quick grow in number of available images. Quality and commercial value is neglected and quantity is preferred.
Give me a good reason and some kind of warranty I'll have sales and I'll join!
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Satforce, you must admit that on Fotomina are many approved images that are really poor in a "stocky" value. Many of them are simply snapshots and I'm wondering who will ever pay for them as long as there are some agencies with milions of great shots. It's a compromise (I guess) that any stock site makes it at it's beginning: anything gets approved to have a quick grow in number of available images. Quality and commercial value is neglected and quantity is preferred.
Hi Ibogdan,
Those many poor images and those simply snapshots exist and they approved on dreamstime, shutterstock and fotolia that's what I want to say to RT also ... Do you think those big microstock sites are trying to have a quick grow in number of available images? :)
Give me a good reason and some kind of warranty I'll have sales and I'll join!
You are welcome to join... There is no warranty, I am not selling a laptop to give you warranty for 3 years ;D you have nothing to loose if you upload some files ..That's it ..
Regards
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Those many poor images and those simply snapshots exist and they approved on dreamstime, shutterstock and fotolia that's what I want to say to RT also ... Do you think those big microstock sites are trying to have a quick grow in number of available images? :)
My last post as I'm not here to run your agency, those type of shots are on the sites you mentioned yes, how many downloads have they got?, read what I said above about microstock sites concentrating on the technical rather than aesthetic quality of an image. Do your research on what actually sells not just what the other sites accept.
The other day I stumbled across some shots on Shutterstock, it was a series (and I mean loads) of a male and female, both looked in their early twenties, eastern european and I swear to god the guy had never worn a suit and tie before, the suit didn't fit the tie (which didn't compliment the rest of the outfit) was half under the collar and he was badly in need of a haircut or even a brush would have helped, the girl was wearing an outfit that looked like her granny wore it for her 21st, both had miserable looking expressions and were standing in the stance only teenagers can manage - the description went along the lines of 'Successful business couple.... blah blah blah'.
Would you accept those images?
If you don't understand what I'm getting at then I really think you should have a back up plan.
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Those many poor images and those simply snapshots exist and they approved on dreamstime, shutterstock and fotolia that's what I want to say to RT also ... Do you think those big microstock sites are trying to have a quick grow in number of available images? :)
My last post as I'm not here to run your agency, those type of shots are on the sites you mentioned yes, how many downloads have they got?, read what I said above about microstock sites concentrating on the technical rather than aesthetic quality of an image. Do your research on what actually sells not just what the other sites accept.
The other day I stumbled across some shots on Shutterstock, it was a series (and I mean loads) of a male and female, both looked in their early twenties, eastern european and I swear to god the guy had never worn a suit and tie before, the suit didn't fit the tie (which didn't compliment the rest of the outfit) was half under the collar and he was badly in need of a haircut or even a brush would have helped, the girl was wearing an outfit that looked like her granny wore it for her 21st, both had miserable looking expressions and were standing in the stance only teenagers can manage - the description went along the lines of 'Successful business couple.... blah blah blah'.
Would you accept those images?
If you don't understand what I'm getting at then I really think you should have a back up plan.
Yes I understand RT but we are a new agency we can not make decline all submittion just because they will not sell very well..
Thanks
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Hi Yvonne,
Some users here are just writing anything... I understand if they don't want to contribute or they don't trust our company but they are destroying us...
So, I need RT answer please it very important for me...
Waitiong for you RT
I think you are not being destroyed. We "the silent majority' have seen such attacks and sarcasm on several occasions. It is all part of general disdain for anything new by the folks who have been here the longest. I think you will find the silent ones are in your corner. Your best bet now is to "cool it." You are playing right into their hands.
Give us time to think it over. You may not get the "old pros" but several of us less successful and new-to-the-business photographers are considering uploading. Like you said, "What do we have to lose?"
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Satforce, I may lose time...
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Some users here are just writing anything... I understand if they don't want to contribute or they don't trust our company but they are destroying us...
While some of the comments might seem hurtful, the damage is only emotional.
What matters is the future success of your business.
A lot of valid comments have been brought up. There is a tendency for owners of startups to block any point of view that does not match their own. You can choose to constructively act on criticism or not. The iceberg that you do not see will crash your ship, not the iceberg that insults you on forums.
Honestly, I really wish you and other new stock sites the best of success.
From my personal point of view, it is better for image suppliers (the people on this forum) to deal with the least monopolistic/oligopolistic set of middlemen as possible.
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Thank you kgtoh.. ;)
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While some of the comments might seem hurtful, the damage is only emotional.
What matters is the future success of your business.
A lot of valid comments have been brought up. There is a tendency for owners of startups to block any point of view that does not match their own. You can choose to constructively act on criticism or not. The iceberg that you do not see will crash your ship, not the iceberg that insults you on forums.
Honestly, I really wish you and other new stock sites the best of success.
From my personal point of view, it is better for image suppliers (the people on this forum) to deal with the least monopolistic/oligopolistic set of middlemen as possible.
Actually we are more then happy for all the comments posted here, because we understand that if someone do comment is only to progress the things, I personally more happy if someone criticize me then see the "things going wrong" and be silent !
so please feel free to comment in the way you want !
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This is marketing whether is positive or not, people start to hear about you. Probably this thread filled with critique brought you some of your contributers and maybe will bring more.
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This is marketing whether is positive or not, people start to hear about you. Probably this thread filled with critique brought you some of your contributers and maybe will bring more.
Yeah, that's right ;D we are looking for more ;)
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i have to say thank you again a lot of my pics go online today.. but you are not very fast... fotolia excepted in serveral times... 500 pics...i dont now your script but it must be faster when you get 10.000 pics a day... you cant work on 1000 - 5 days ... sorry...thats not the way microstock work...
regards yvonne
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i have to say thank you again a lot of my pics go online today.. but you are not very fast... fotolia excepted in serveral times... 500 pics...i dont now your script but it must be faster when you get 10.000 pics a day... you cant work on 1000 - 5 days ... sorry...thats not the way microstock work...
regards yvonne
Hi Yvonne,
I will try to be faster while approving :-[, we have too much of submittion from differents users and we want to give every contributor a chance.. So, please be patient..
;)
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Any sale so far?
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Any sale so far?
There is no sale of course :) we will not do like others did, they download two or three pictures for every photographer ;D so the contributor will say OMG I got a sale from the first day and he will stay 5 months with the same amount ;D Fotomina did not start the marketing plan in terms of buyer, we need to have a good stock before we start, don't worry we have now 1000 photos, we start soon..
Regards
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Satforce : What I need to do If I want to have my own blog on your site ?? Now is it disable.
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we need to have a good stock before we start, don't worry we have now 1000 photos, we start soon..
Regards
I alone have 9500 photos! Can I start up my own agency? :D
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we need to have a good stock before we start, don't worry we have now 1000 photos, we start soon..
Regards
I alone have 9500 photos! Can I start up my own agency? :D
Yes :-)
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Whoho! I will be in BIG7 in no time! I promise! You will all see! I deserve a chance!
:D
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Whoho! I will be in BIG7 in no time! I promise! You will all see! I deserve a chance!
:D
Why not? You are already known and would probably be received with much less sarcasm. ;D
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Peter,
What commission rates are you offering? Do you have ftp?
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I ofer you 10% commision :D
No, you would have to send me images on CD/DVD, no FTP, sorry. :D But, at some point I will cut 5% of your commision, so I can eventually afford FTP :D
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But, at some point I will cut 5% of your commision, so I can eventually afford FTP :D
You are following a very smart industry strategy, called Fotolia commission reduction strategy ;D
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Satforce : What I need to do If I want to have my own blog on your site ?? Now is it disable.
You can Have your blog Wamap it's activated now... Please let me know if you have any question.
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we need to have a good stock before we start, don't worry we have now 1000 photos, we start soon..
Regards
I alone have 9500 photos! Can I start up my own agency? :D
Of course you can but you can be an Artist and a commercial in the same time ;D
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Satforce : What I need to do If I want to have my own blog on your site ?? Now is it disable.
You can Have your blog Wamap it's activated now... Please let me know if you have any question.
Thank you.
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@satforce... my posting was not negative... if my pics go online today or in 3 days that not important for me... i only thing that the script is not optimal... you have to work to much... what will you do when someone upload 20.000 pics *g thats great for you ok, but to much work i think.
satforce as you know you are my friend... you must find a way to make it easier for you... you cant work whole day...
but i still believe that fotomina could work... that there are no sales in the moment *g thats normal.. to build up a good database... some never make it... but i think fotomina will make it ...
regards from berlin
PS: i stop uploading food-shots ... no i upload people... so you can better mixed it... +g
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@satforce... my posting was not negative... if my pics go online today or in 3 days that not important for me... i only thing that the script is not optimal... you have to work to much... what will you do when someone upload 20.000 pics *g thats great for you ok, but to much work i think.
satforce as you know you are my friend... you must find a way to make it easier for you... you cant work whole day...
but i still believe that fotomina could work... that there are no sales in the moment *g thats normal.. to build up a good database... some never make it... but i think fotomina will make it ...
regards from berlin
PS: i stop uploading food-shots ... no i upload people... so you can better mixed it... +g
Hi Xenia,
You're right, We already start developping a new powerful script to avoid all porblems..
Thanks again Xenia for giving Fotomina a chance ..
Regards
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Ok, whet will Fotomina officially launch? (I mean available images for sale)
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But, at some point I will cut 5% of your commision, so I can eventually afford FTP :D
You are following a very smart industry strategy, called Fotolia commission reduction strategy ;D
I learn from the best :D
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thank your very much that you understand my thouds... i was a liddle bit sad... i dont want to heard you...i love this new agency...
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Please read this:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/what-kind-of-features-you'd-like-to-see-in-fotomina/
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In your FAQ section is written "however some subjects and categories are well covered within our database". What type of subject is well covered?
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In your FAQ section is written "however some subjects and categories are well covered within our database". What type of subject is well covered?
;D Nice catch, it was a mistake by the one who prepared the text.
Thank you
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What was wrong with microstockgroup ? I was getting for the last 12 hours internal error, was it only showing to me :( ?
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What was wrong with microstockgroup ? I was getting for the last 12 hours internal error, was it only showing to me :( ?
No, me to.
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I learn from the best :D
Peter, do you know what was wrong with this server error ?
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hallo .. i have a problem again... i have upload more than 1800 pics... i never get a notice what is accepted or not... thats ok for me... but a dont think that your ftp real work... only 600 of my pics online yet... the others i dont now
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hallo .. i have a problem again... i have upload more than 1800 pics... i never get a notice what is accepted or not... thats ok for me... but a dont think that your ftp real work... only 600 of my pics online yet... the others i dont now
Hi Xenia,
Our software is updated a little bite, now you can see the status: if the photo is approved, declined or deleted... About notifing we are working on a new powerful script where you can get notification about accept/rejection with the reason, etc. About your pics you told me that I am free to delete any pic if I don't like it... Actualy most of your pics are online...
We will get our software very soon..
Regards
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hallo .. i have a problem again... i have upload more than 1800 pics... i never get a notice what is accepted or not... thats ok for me... but a dont think that your ftp real work... only 600 of my pics online yet... the others i dont now
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hallo .. i have a problem again... i have upload more than 1800 pics... i never get a notice what is accepted or not... thats ok for me... but a dont think that your ftp real work... only 600 of my pics online yet... the others i dont now
Hi xenia,
We have done some update on the script you can see the status of your pics approved, declined or deleted... We are working on a new software wher you will have notifications about approve, reject with reasons... About your pics you told me that I am free to delete any pic that I don't like otherwise most of your photos are accepted and online..
Regards
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yes that ok for me.. delete what ever you want *g i told you.... thats not important for me.. you must have your stuff you like for your agency...
regards yvonne
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So, what's the update on Fotomina. Does anyone have anything encouraging to make us join them?
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So, what's the update on Fotomina. Does anyone have anything encouraging to make us join them?
Hi Batman,
We made a small update where you can see if your photos are declined/selected or deleted, we are working on a new software to make fotomina photographer's friendly. We started a thread to add all your suggestions to the new website:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/what-kind-of-features-you'd-like-to-see-in-fotomina/
Please write something ..
Regards
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Hi Batman,
We made a small update where you can see if your photos are declined/selected or deleted, we are working on a new software to make fotomina photographer's friendly. We started a thread to add all your suggestions to the new website:
[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/what-kind-of-features-you'd-like-to-see-in-fotomina/[/url]
Please write something ..
Regards
Hey there Satforce, that was quick response. I missed your original introduction here, and found this thread by accident. I only started to read the first few pages, and got tired of reading, so I thought I get someone to update on the more important details.
What has changed since then , Satforce? Initially, the introduction said quick payout $10, etc..
is it still $10 to get a payout, and the % of commission. How are your sales doing, and is your buyers mostly in Finland, is it? where you are?
Not to worry, I am not here to give you a big interrogation. ;D Just want to know if there is a good incentive to submit some images to you.
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and got tired of reading
;D I think I will make a book from this thread ;D
is it still $10 to get a payout
Yes it is ..
% of commission
For the moment it's 50%. Next, we are studying a new commission based on number of sales made.
How are your sales doing
Not yes, we are building a strong library of royalty free images and then we will start our marketing plan..
is your buyers mostly in Finland
Our buyer will be from international country, we are studding a new ways to sell to people without paypal and online payment if they don't have. Actually we will focus on Africa and Arabic countries..
where you are?
We are on Finland.
Not to worry, I am not here to give you a big interrogation. Just want to know if there is a good incentive to submit some images to you.
Please feel free to post any question...
Regards ;)
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Well I found out today that they will accept non-vector illustrations. That is a plus for me, so I will upload and see how it goes...
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Initially, the introduction said quick payout $10, etc..
No they fooled us. It's 5$ and 0.5$ for the smallest size. That's for an extended license. But I checked them the last time begin of April when I uploaded 10. Maybe they repaired that. I can't tell any more and their site doesn't work under FF (CSS not loading), plus I can't even log in also. No time now but I will re-check these guys later. My advice for now would be to stay away till their site works properly and their policies are fixed. Their promise of 10$ certainly wasn't kept and if it's true, I'll kill them for sure. ;D
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Actually we will focus on Africa and Arabic countries..
ROTFL. ;D There is no money in Africa. Even here in SE Asia with a much higher standard of living, nobody buys stock. Here they get all their stuffs from pirate sites or torrents. The market is the US, not Patagonia, Elbonia nor Timbuktu. You must be kidding, I'm sorry.
Our buyer will be from international country
We are on Finland.
Our buyers
We are in Finland
Please feel free to post any question...
Why don't you hire a native English writer? English is my 3d language but I do have a spellchecker. :P
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Why don't you hire a native English writer? English is my 3d language but I do have a spellchecker. :P
He doesn't have money to hire a writer. It doesn't cost any real money to start a joke website. Anybody can start one, them having a website means nothing.
I can come up with a micro site in a week with my developer friend working with me. It would look as good as any of the top players. But the difficult thing is to run the website, not to come up with it.
If I do create a website would you then instantly take it serious and advertise it on this forum as a newcomer? It is that easy really :D
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If I do create a website would you then instantly take it serious and advertise it on this forum as a newcomer? It is that easy really :D
As if I didn't know ;D
Well the guys have been friendly and quite charming in private messages but it was quite clear from the start that didn't know one syllabe about microstock. We all know that they will never make it (and I think the same about Veer snapstock).
Fotomina anounced 10$ and then when my 10 shots got online, it suddenly was 5$, 2.5$ for me at full size and EL. I'm sorry but I hate players and liars. Their site doesn't work under FF now but if I find my shots there full size back at 2.5$ later, I'm going to give them a very rough time.
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Well I found out today that they will accept non-vector illustrations. That is a plus for me, so I will upload and see how it goes...
:D How do you think it will go ;D ;D ;D
These guys are a real joke. The more I read, the more I laugh! You must be one of them to say you are going to submit and expect any real results!
I am sure fotomina has a grand total of 3 visitors a day!
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Sorry to disappoint the skeptics but I'm just a newbie struggling with a tiny portfolio...
I decided to take the plunge and give them a look see...
The first thing that I can report is that their uploading system is annoying. One image at a time as well as having to fill in the title and description before upload. It only reads the metadata for the keywords.
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Hi Again,
Well I found out today that they will accept non-vector illustrations. That is a plus for me, so I will upload and see how it goes...
You are welcome karensuki.
No they fooled us. It's 5$ and 0.5$ for the smallest size. That's for an extended license. But I checked them the last time begin of April when I uploaded 10. Maybe they repaired that. I can't tell any more and their site doesn't work under FF (CSS not loading), plus I can't even log in also. No time now but I will re-check these guys later. My advice for now would be to stay away till their site works properly and their policies are fixed. Their promise of 10$ certainly wasn't kept and if it's true, I'll kill them for sure.
Payout start from 10$ paypal and moneybookers, FlemishDreams you don't have to kill us that's true.
ROTFL. Grin There is no money in Africa. Even here in SE Asia with a much higher standard of living, nobody buys stock. Here they get all their stuffs from pirate sites or torrents. The market is the US, not Patagonia, Elbonia nor Timbuktu. You must be kidding, I'm sorry.
No comment .. We will try..
Our buyers
We are in Finland
I am sorry for misspelling.
Why don't you hire a native English writer? English is my 3d language but I do have a spellchecker.
Okay we will hire some English writers. But at least with my very bad English I am able to communicate with people.
He doesn't have money to hire a writer. It doesn't cost any real money to start a joke website. Anybody can start one, them having a website means nothing.
I can come up with a micro site in a week with my developer friend working with me. It would look as good as any of the top players. But the difficult thing is to run the website, not to come up with it.
If I do create a website would you then instantly take it serious and advertise it on this forum as a newcomer? It is that easy really
WOW, You are genius !!
Fotomina anounced 10$ and then when my 10 shots got online, it suddenly was 5$, 2.5$ for me at full size and EL. I'm sorry but I hate pla
We are not liars Flemish we announced 10$ for the payout not for the price of the picture. Instead of saying that you can give us some idea in this thread to make Fotomina photographer friendly http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/what-kind-of-features-you%27d-like-to-see-in-fotomina/
These guys are a real joke. The more I read, the more I laugh! You must be one of them to say you are going to submit and expect any real results!
I am sure fotomina has a grand total of 3 visitors a day!
http://www.quantcast.com/www.fotomina.com
Sorry to disappoint the skeptics but I'm just a newbie struggling with a tiny portfolio...
I decided to take the plunge and give them a look see...
The first thing that I can report is that their uploading system is annoying. One image at a time as well as having to fill in the title and description before upload. It only reads the metadata for the keywords.
Again, we are developping a new script and we will have bulk upload ..
This is the next version of Fotomina:
(http://www.leechmonster.com/foto.jpg)
Regards