Author Topic: Introducing pixamba.com - by creators of ProStockMaster software (Read 34983 times)

LSD72 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 26, 2009, 17:49 »

If you build it, we will come..as long as there are sales to be had for a decent % for the contributors. That's where your Advertising / Marketing comes in. I personally would like to know more about that end of it. I also agree that the $100 payout limit is a little steep for a startup when you have established big sellers ranging from $75 to $100 (as low as $30 with BS). $50 I would have no problem with.

As you can see, you got some ears open...now fill them up.

Pixart · « **Reply #26 on:** June 26, 2009, 18:14 »

Back to the $100 minimum. This minimum isn't that high if they would do like many other crowd-sourced enterprises and pay out whatever balance is accumulated under this threshold at the end of each calendar year.

Adeptris · « **Reply #27 on:** June 27, 2009, 00:45 »

Quote from: Pixart on June 26, 2009, 18:14

Back to the $100 minimum. This minimum isn't that high if they would do like many other crowd-sourced enterprises and pay out whatever balance is accumulated under this threshold at the end of each calendar year.

It is estimated that 75% of stock contributors will never make the minimum for a payout, it is more than likely that this un-claimed revenue is calculated as part of any business plan, it is really quite cynical of the agencies to collect royalties and never pass them on the the artist, some of this revenue will be shown on the balance sheet as short term liabilities to be paid out, some will be moved from a liability to an asset or used to cover other costs, when we read how well a site is doing, some of that will be royalty revenue it collected but never paid out.

We really need to get away from this 'We are a Community so lets help each other' scenario, the stock sites are a business that have to maximize and protect their margin, they are not our buddies, we are the Vendors and have the assets they need and should be looking for the best return for the least effort, the stock site should payout on every asset licence they sell once a month providing the transaction cost is met and that is a very small amount, so how about no minimum but a small transaction cost if the payout is less that $10, that might bring in a few Photographers.

David

nruboc · « **Reply #28 on:** June 27, 2009, 01:22 »

Quite honestly... the one thing that turns me off against this site is the overwhelming presence yet again of Yuri. Don't get me wrong, I think his content if awesome... but it is literally EVERYWHERE..... you will not distinguish your site with his content, let me repeat... it is literally EVERYWHERE. When I see his content on a site, I think to myself.... what concessions has he negotiated with the site to get them to be able to display all his content. Will he be getting a advantageous position in the search engine? Was he given the special priveledge of just sending in a DVD of all his photos, with you placing them on the site....etc...etc... The Yuri factor, quite honestly turns me off... no disrespect to his images. To be honest, I won't be uploading to your site, not that you'll care much... but Veer is the only new site I have the time to take on at the moment. But, with 40% as your commission (which is fair) I will be watching your site if it picks up, and I do wish you good luck! And hopefully you'll learn from the failure that is the IStockphoto's time consuming upload process, and make yours as easy as possible!

All the Best!

davidm · « **Reply #29 on:** June 27, 2009, 06:11 »

We listen to you very carefully. The minimal payout amount was dropped to $50.

takestock · « **Reply #30 on:** June 27, 2009, 06:16 »

Quote from: davidm on June 27, 2009, 06:11

We listen to you very carefully. The minimal payout amount was dropped to $50.

Nice start - WTG!

One thing - I see from your submitter FAQ that the min file size is 6mp but I have found one file at 4.8.

LSD72 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 27, 2009, 09:46 »

Apparently the Photos that I have sized for SS minimum are to small for this site. So 2460 x 1640 wont cut it. Hmmm.

etienjones · « **Reply #32 on:** June 27, 2009, 10:08 »

Dave

First I wish you good luck on your adventure. My question concerns the "Best Match" search on the site (I realize that only the beta version is up). I like to test sites by searching for the word "Grave" and on the site I got pocker chips and birds as results . . . some with german titles. How far along are you with your "search" development?

E

DWL · « **Reply #33 on:** June 27, 2009, 10:20 »

Quote from: FAQ

Is there any copyright information or a watermark in the image / content which I license from Pixamba?
No. (there is nothing more to say)

That means that all asset metadata is stripped out of the downloaded image, I had never looked before and just checked one from Istock, that has only Exif data, I would have thought that the stocksites would add a line of metadata with a transaction reference to reduce theft.

David

davidm · « **Reply #34 on:** June 27, 2009, 11:15 »

Quote from: DWL on June 27, 2009, 10:20

[...] I would have thought that the stocksites would add a line of metadata with a transaction reference to reduce theft.

David

As far as I know no stock adds metadata to their downloads at the moment. With JPGs, it is perfectly doable though.
Can some additional metadata protect us from the images theft? I am in doubt, particularly because it's just a 5-seconds work for a thief to strip out any metadata.

gbcimages · « **Reply #35 on:** June 27, 2009, 11:25 »

I would like to see the file sizes smaller. I tried to upload some of my graphics and It said to small.

willie · « **Reply #36 on:** June 27, 2009, 11:40 »

David, welcome to MSG . Most of what I want to say has already been said by others before me here. So only to echo that Yay (no pun intended), the last thing we need is another new site with easy review and no sales. And of course the ubiquitous "give us a few years and we will show you it's worth uploading to us".
Many already have a few years and lots of contributors but STILL NO SALES.
If your buyer base is non existent, you won't win too many new contributors over here. But if you show me I can expect some sales you might just convince me to submit to your site.
btw, the move to reduce to $50 payout is great. It show you listen , wish I can say the same to Dreamstime and IS to do the same. But then again, they get sales and echo, the new sites don't.
But I am definitely watching your site to give me the signal to upload to you...
get more sales and I will do that.
Good luck to Pixamba. Maybe you will prove to us you can be different

davidm · « **Reply #37 on:** June 28, 2009, 02:09 »

Quote from: etienjones on June 27, 2009, 10:08

Dave

First I wish you good luck on your adventure. My question concerns the "Best Match" search on the site (I realize that only the beta version is up). I like to test sites by searching for the word "Grave" and on the site I got pocker chips and birds as results . . . some with german titles. How far along are you with your "search" development?

E

Thanks to all for wishing us good luck, some luck will definitely help.

@etienjones:
I must admit I like your search keyword

- it's so refreshing vs. 'girl with a mobile phone' that I typically see in searches

A good search results depend on two major things: a) good search infrastructure (supportive data structure, wise queries etc); b) well-indexed content with all the data / metadata elements in place. I believe we are already fine with (a), mostly because we have designed the system that way, however as you saw we have a lot of work to do with (b) yet, cleaning up some images data.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #38 on:** June 28, 2009, 07:38 »

You should probably hire a copywriter. This doesn't read well, and some of the sentences aren't even sentences:
"Pixamba is for color, freshness and creativity. We deliver digital vitamins for design and advertising projects. Our high resolution stock photos and illustrations are everywhere, used online on thousands web sites, in digital documents, presentations, brochures, welcomed by publishing houses and magazines, adopted in packagings designs and merchandize. Hundreds thousands hi-res images available online at Pixamba worth more than thousands words. These are milllions of words and a zillion of new concepts and inspirations, all at one low price. "

Also, you may want to be more careful of images like this: http://www.pixamba.com/beim-doc-business-medicine-stockphotos-236771.html which may be illegal in some countries.

What country are you marketing to? Your splash is in English, but images are titled "Frau legt Geschenk unter Weihnachtsbaum" and the like. I don't know what that means.

I don't see anything at all in your legal about the terms of the licensing agreement: http://www.pixamba.com/legal.html ie. what the images can be used for. You have a little bit here: http://www.pixamba.com/prices.html , but that is an info page, not any kind of contract. I would be wary of submitting anything to this site until your legal work is up to speed.

davidm · « **Reply #39 on:** June 28, 2009, 08:15 »

Quote from: sjlocke on June 28, 2009, 07:38

You should probably hire a copywriter. This doesn't read well, and some of the sentences aren't even sentences:
"Pixamba is for color, freshness and creativity. We deliver digital vitamins for design and advertising projects. Our high resolution stock photos and illustrations are everywhere, used online on thousands web sites, in digital documents, presentations, brochures, welcomed by publishing houses and magazines, adopted in packagings designs and merchandize. Hundreds thousands hi-res images available online at Pixamba worth more than thousands words. These are milllions of words and a zillion of new concepts and inspirations, all at one low price. "

Also, you may want to be more careful of images like this: http://www.pixamba.com/beim-doc-business-medicine-stockphotos-236771.html which may be illegal in some countries.

What country are you marketing to? Your splash is in English, but images are titled "Frau legt Geschenk unter Weihnachtsbaum" and the like. I don't know what that means.

I don't see anything at all in your legal about the terms of the licensing agreement: http://www.pixamba.com/legal.html ie. what the images can be used for. You have a little bit here: http://www.pixamba.com/prices.html , but that is an info page, not any kind of contract. I would be wary of submitting anything to this site until your legal work is up to speed.

Agree with everything you have said, thank you.

The image removed.

Tim Markley · « **Reply #40 on:** June 28, 2009, 08:48 »

I like the look of the site, but another micro site will be tough sell. But since I like your PSM software i'll give a try.

davidm · « **Reply #41 on:** June 29, 2009, 00:00 »

Quote from: gbcimages on June 27, 2009, 11:25

I would like to see the file sizes smaller. I tried to upload some of my graphics and It said to small.

First, thanks for your submission, these are very nice illustrations.

What min MP size would you consider as reasonable?
Would it be a good idea to separate MIN upload size for illustrations(raster) and photos, making it e.g. 2MP for illustrations and e.g. 4? 5? 6? (now) MP for photos?

takestock · « **Reply #42 on:** June 29, 2009, 02:55 »

Quote from: davidm on June 29, 2009, 00:00

Quote from: gbcimages on June 27, 2009, 11:25
I would like to see the file sizes smaller. I tried to upload some of my graphics and It said to small.
First, thanks for your submission, these are very nice illustrations.

What min MP size would you consider as reasonable?
Would it be a good idea to separate MIN upload size for illustrations(raster) and photos, making it e.g. 2MP for illustrations and e.g. 4? 5? 6? (now) MP for photos?

How about 4mp for photos? I'm sure a lot of contributors have good selling images from when the pixel count was much lower than it is today, and would be able to upload these to you. It will also mean more images for your database.

Dook · « **Reply #43 on:** June 29, 2009, 03:18 »

You should stick to 4MP for start. When you build up your collection you can move up a little bit. But you should also ask for ID, so you get sure you do not sell stolen images.

dirkr · « **Reply #44 on:** June 29, 2009, 04:37 »

Quote from: takestock on June 29, 2009, 02:55

How about 4mp for photos? I'm sure a lot of contributors have good selling images from when the pixel count was much lower than it is today, and would be able to upload these to you. It will also mean more images for your database.

Agreed, good suggestion.
4 MP is good enough for web use and small prints.

gbcimages · « **Reply #45 on:** June 29, 2009, 09:02 »

Quote from: davidm on June 29, 2009, 00:00

Quote from: gbcimages on June 27, 2009, 11:25
I would like to see the file sizes smaller. I tried to upload some of my graphics and It said to small.
First, thanks for your submission, these are very nice illustrations.

What min MP size would you consider as reasonable?
Would it be a good idea to separate MIN upload size for illustrations(raster) and photos, making it e.g. 2MP for illustrations and e.g. 4? 5? 6? (now) MP for photos?

Yes ,that will work,it's a good all around size.Thanks

RacePhoto · « **Reply #46 on:** June 29, 2009, 13:42 »

Quote from: qwerty on June 26, 2009, 05:44

Hope your venture goes well, however looking at the list on the right there are already a lot of new sites/low earners. Most of which I think most people don't bother with due to low return for time spent.

some ideas that might help

No categories
No categories
Easy upload essential (FTP)
No long lock in time for submissions
Submission allowance a combination of number of photos online and % acceptance rate. eg someone with 75% acceptance with 2000 photos online gets a higher allocation than 75% with 30 online.
No categories
If subscription based site limited size of download or variable commission dependent on the size downloaded. eg customers can DL 10 small per day, or 3XXL or some combination. (artist get commission based on size)
Plan for attracting customers, preferably new customers not another dilution of the existing pool.
Extended licences are one area contributors are picky about - These should not be too cheap.
No categories
Set reasonable quality levels for acceptance inline with sales and database size. You can't expect to only accept the best with no sales because the best won't submit without some chance of return.
No categories
"best match search" takes no input from reviews from other contributors

And yes, NO CATEGORIES

they are a waste of time, nearly impossible to make any sense of them because you have to buttonhole an image into something that's frozen and inflexible to making a good match for many photos.

kosmikkreeper · « **Reply #47 on:** June 29, 2009, 14:46 »

I can only say what I think but I also think that many top contributors might agree... if you want to attract top contributors, you'll need to invest in them. We need a risk to reward ratio that makes good business sense. We invest our product and uploading time. What will you invest? For me, I would need financial compensation to invest with a new agency. A bit like what Fotolia did when they started.

With many startups falling like flies, our risk to reward ratio is too high to warrant our investment without a financial risk from the new agency.

davidm · « **Reply #48 on:** June 29, 2009, 14:47 »

Quote from: RacePhoto on June 29, 2009, 13:42

And yes, NO CATEGORIES they are a waste of time, nearly impossible to make any sense of them because you have to buttonhole an image into something that's frozen and inflexible to making a good match for many photos.

Well, there are are at least 3 different points of view on categories issue, and I agree with all three

- artists: who needs it? waste of our time
- buyers: let's take a quick look what these guys have to offer us in "health & beauty" cat. Hmmm... they do get something that catch my eye.. (or - no, they do not

- search engines: we'll crawl this stuff one by one, sit back and let us do the job, thank you

These 3 are well-kept stock-photo-web secrets, but you got them all now

How about automating the first category selection, C--stock-style? I guess it can reduce or even remove the 'categorization' pain.

melastmohican · « **Reply #49 on:** June 29, 2009, 23:31 »

Quote from: davidm on June 29, 2009, 14:47

How about automating the first category selection, C--stock-style? I guess it can reduce or even remove the 'categorization' pain.

If you can automate categories it proves they are not needed, you can create them on the fly. It's like folders on a disk, you can create fantastic hierarchies or put everything into one bucket, at the end of the day everybody needs search to find files. What would be percentage of the cases you want to browse hierarchy? I guess very, very low.

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Author Topic: Introducing pixamba.com - by creators of ProStockMaster software (Read 34983 times)

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