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iSignstock - new stock offering from Ingram Publishing
loop:
Are you really uploading images there without knowing how much will you get per download??? (More if it's pressumed cents...)
gostwyck:
--- Quote from: sharpshot on October 15, 2010, 16:57 ---I will wait and see what they say but I don't think 4.5 cents is realistic, as subs buyers don't use all their downloads, so I presume we would get much more? Don't know why people only look at the worst case scenario, by the same logic I suppose a buyer could download just one image and we would get $66 for it?
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The point is we don't know. They haven't actually detailed how it works. Unlike most other agencies that offer subs and pay a fixed commission to the contributor it appears to me that all the risk is being passed on to us here __ and most likely for little potential gain. Don't forget that they're selling extended licenses that could generate as little as 6c a pop to us.
It's very similar to what Istock/Getty tried on initially with Thinkstock knowing full well that whatever price they chose to sell the subscription for they would be guaranteed 80% (if I remember the figure correctly) of the subscription cost irrespective of how many images were downloaded by the customer. Fortunately the majority of contributors saw through the scheme and rejected it. This is potentially even worse than Thinkstock because it seems improbable that the volume will be there or indeed the marketing nous.
The pathetic 'incentive' scheme itself tells us all we need to know about them __ a bonus maximum of $50 for 1000+ images accepted? Do me a favour. That's all of 5c per image. When Fotolia started they were paying out 50c per image with no limitations and that was when prices and earnings were much lower.
Phil:
Funny, just got my new book from the publishers and brought it and my one from earlier in the year home last night.
My kids looked at the front covers and said they're not your photos and I said the publisher uses Ingram and I had to choose one from there and Ingram dont seem to have direct entry, only through partners. kind of ironic
they have paid upload $50 for 1000 images
I dont like this % of subscription payments that seems about 3 or 4 now. Sharpshot, pixmac work on %, someone buys a 'pack' so many images per month / year for a price, they work that down a cost per image for that customer ie 10 cents per image and then they pay on that, whether the customer buys or not is irrelevant for the photographer.
sharpshot:
--- Quote from: loop on October 15, 2010, 17:12 ---Are you really uploading images there without knowing how much will you get per download??? (More if it's pressumed cents...)
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No, I have sent them an email and will be asking more questions directly to them before I decide if it is worth uploading. Much better than speculating in a forum, people often get it wrong here.
gostwyck:
--- Quote from: sharpshot on October 15, 2010, 17:37 ---Much better than speculating in a forum, people often get it wrong here.
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I've written to them requesting they provide additional information and answer questions here (where they are paying to advertise). Much better having an open discussion on a forum like this that all trying to do it individually. The old 'divide and conquer' just plays into their hands __ we have a much stronger voice together.
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