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Agency Based Discussion => New Sites - General => Topic started by: leaf on October 15, 2010, 09:05
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Ingram Publishing just opened their iSignStock (http://isignstock.com/index.cfm?/sellStock_EN&utm_source=microstockgroup&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=October%2B2010)site to contributers and are offering some cash for uploading.
The site is a subscription site with photographers share ranging from 30%-40%, although I haven't seen how the pay structure is divided up.
If you upload exclusive images they will also be automatically put on the Ingimage (http://www.ingimage.com/index.cfm?/home_EN)site.
So anyhow, here is the link (http://isignstock.com/index.cfm?/sellStock_EN&utm_source=microstockgroup&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=October%2B2010)if you want to check it out.
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What an awful looking site.
Search for 'business'. All Yuri, all the time ;)
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i don't see anything about paying for uploading.
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$330 per year to download 50 images a week - 2,600 images at 12.69 cents apiece.
Not sure what the photographer share in money would be but it doesn't seem this would amount to much per image.
Has a bit a of a bargain bin feel about it, no?
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Not sure about the name but they know how to sell, as I can see through my third party sales with another site. Subs buyers never use their full quota of downloads and 30%-40% commission is probably reasonable for subs sites.
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$330 per year to download 50 images a week - 2,600 images at 12.69 cents apiece.
Not sure what the photographer share in money would be but it doesn't seem this would amount to much per image.
In the UK the price is £295 for an annual subscription however the FULL subscription appears to include Extended Licenses for vehicle transfers too. For images only the subscription price is just £220 which could mean as little as 8.5p per image TO THE CUSTOMER and our 30% would be less than 3p or about 4.5c.
I don't fully understand how it works for contributors either. Are commissions worked out on a 'per week' basis based on how much a customer downloads? For example if a customer downloads only 1/3 of their entitlement does that effectively treble the commission per image for the contributor? What if a customer downloads zero images in one week? Does the money for that week carry over to the next or do Isignstock get to keep the lot for themselves?
Clearly they are aimed very specifically at sign-makers which must be a relatively narrow sector of the greater market. I don't see much in this to interest me so far, the returns for the contributor are likely to be very meagre.
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A lot of my portfolio is already on there, would be nice to have more information. I presume we would make more money supplying the site directly than via another site.
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Has anyone been able to determing what the lock~in time span is for pics, 1mo, 3mo, 6mo?
I cant seam to find any infor on the site about this.
nick
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Oh, wait a sec.
Is that 4.5 cents (US) for the photographer ? ? ?
If yes, then they can kiss my _ _ _ !
25 cents is my lowest.
When microstock gets any lower then that, then its back to taking pictures just for fun.
nick
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I will wait and see what they say but I don't think 4.5 cents is realistic, as subs buyers don't use all their downloads, so I presume we would get much more? Don't know why people only look at the worst case scenario, by the same logic I suppose a buyer could download just one image and we would get $66 for it?
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Are you really uploading images there without knowing how much will you get per download??? (More if it's pressumed cents...)
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I will wait and see what they say but I don't think 4.5 cents is realistic, as subs buyers don't use all their downloads, so I presume we would get much more? Don't know why people only look at the worst case scenario, by the same logic I suppose a buyer could download just one image and we would get $66 for it?
The point is we don't know. They haven't actually detailed how it works. Unlike most other agencies that offer subs and pay a fixed commission to the contributor it appears to me that all the risk is being passed on to us here __ and most likely for little potential gain. Don't forget that they're selling extended licenses that could generate as little as 6c a pop to us.
It's very similar to what Istock/Getty tried on initially with Thinkstock knowing full well that whatever price they chose to sell the subscription for they would be guaranteed 80% (if I remember the figure correctly) of the subscription cost irrespective of how many images were downloaded by the customer. Fortunately the majority of contributors saw through the scheme and rejected it. This is potentially even worse than Thinkstock because it seems improbable that the volume will be there or indeed the marketing nous.
The pathetic 'incentive' scheme itself tells us all we need to know about them __ a bonus maximum of $50 for 1000+ images accepted? Do me a favour. That's all of 5c per image. When Fotolia started they were paying out 50c per image with no limitations and that was when prices and earnings were much lower.
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Funny, just got my new book from the publishers and brought it and my one from earlier in the year home last night.
My kids looked at the front covers and said they're not your photos and I said the publisher uses Ingram and I had to choose one from there and Ingram dont seem to have direct entry, only through partners. kind of ironic
they have paid upload $50 for 1000 images
I dont like this % of subscription payments that seems about 3 or 4 now. Sharpshot, pixmac work on %, someone buys a 'pack' so many images per month / year for a price, they work that down a cost per image for that customer ie 10 cents per image and then they pay on that, whether the customer buys or not is irrelevant for the photographer.
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Are you really uploading images there without knowing how much will you get per download??? (More if it's pressumed cents...)
No, I have sent them an email and will be asking more questions directly to them before I decide if it is worth uploading. Much better than speculating in a forum, people often get it wrong here.
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Much better than speculating in a forum, people often get it wrong here.
I've written to them requesting they provide additional information and answer questions here (where they are paying to advertise). Much better having an open discussion on a forum like this that all trying to do it individually. The old 'divide and conquer' just plays into their hands __ we have a much stronger voice together.
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Oh, wait a sec.
Is that 4.5 cents (US) for the photographer ? ? ?
I made similar calculations and agree. If customer use fully his subscription we will get much less then even on Shutterstock. Only several cents for image.
It's too low price.
But let compare with Ingram traditional subscription site http://www.ingimage.com/ (http://www.ingimage.com/)
There I see f529 for year with 250 images in one week. It's equal 7 cents for one image. It's very low price too but ingimage with it's subscription exists for a long time.
And for example we can compare it with prices on http://www.ingrampublishing.com/ (http://www.ingrampublishing.com/) image costs f60 and higher.
It's hard to believe that one company can sell equal images for f60 and only 7 cents. It's not good that we can't see detailed statistics about sales on Ingram.
I will be waiting more detailed reply from Ingram support about this question.
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hope whoever got an answer can share it here, it seems no sense to earn that few cents.
and it is quite amusing, $10-50 images, $25-250, $50-1000. I am stupid but i know how to count with fingers.
that's even mention the more u submit the more u earn.
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I have sent them a link to this thread, hopefully someone from there will answer questions.
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Good evening,
My name is Johnnie and I work as a picture editor for Ingram Publishing. I would like to clear up a few of the issues being discussed here about our new site isignstock.
- Firstly we are offering 30% for non-exclusive images and 40% for exclusive. Exclusive images will be distributed to ingimage and more importantly throughout our existing dealer channel (where as singles they will be licensed for up to £200 each).
- We may include some non-exclusive images on ingimage if our editors feel they are good enough. Vectors and properly sized images stand a good chance.
- The photographer gets 30/40% of the full revenue - not just profit.
- It seems that a few of you have been calculating the cents per download based on the available maximum download numbers. With all respect this is an incredibly misleading and short sighted approach. Quite literally nobody downloads every available image. Indeed most use a tiny fraction of their quota. The reality is that the revenues per image – for ingimage – are close to the top of your mid tier section. This is according to our larger suppliers who widely distribute their work.
- We appreciate our bonus scheme doesn’t offer vast riches - we simply see it as a start up fee / small incentive to encourage photographers to begin working with us.
We have no desire to rip photographers off - Ingram has been going for a long time now and we wouldn’t be anywhere if it wasn’t for the good relationships we have with our contributors.
Please don’t hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
With best regards,
Johnnie
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thanks for the reply Johnnie
So how are royalties calculated? If a buyer buys a package for 100 pounds and only uses 50% of his package on only my images and another photographers images, does that mean I'll get 30% of 100 pounds multiplied by .5 since half the sales were my images?
Is this calculated at the end of each month?
thanks.
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I guess we can do this like an Interview.
What sets your site(s) apart from the other Micros such as Shutterstock, Dreamstime, Fotolia and Istock?
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- It seems that a few of you have been calculating the cents per download based on the available maximum download numbers. With all respect this is an incredibly misleading and short sighted approach. Quite literally nobody downloads every available image. Indeed most use a tiny fraction of their quota.
Why such a high maximum then?
If 'quite literally nobody downloads their full quota' you should have no problem whatsoever lowering the available amount to a sensible level whereby contributors wouldn't end up in the possible scenario of getting the lowest commission rate available at any agency.
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- It seems that a few of you have been calculating the cents per download based on the available maximum download numbers. With all respect this is an incredibly misleading and short sighted approach. Quite literally nobody downloads every available image. Indeed most use a tiny fraction of their quota.
Why such a high maximum then?
If 'quite literally nobody downloads their full quota' you should have no problem whatsoever lowering the available amount to a sensible level whereby contributors wouldn't end up in the possible scenario of getting the lowest commission rate available at any agency.
I once presented at a user's group meeting for my then employer, a well known PC software firm. Why, I was asked, did we offer rebates on our products rather than just lowering the price? I told the truth: that on the one hand, customers included the rebate value when they calculated price, making our products look more attractive; but on the other hand, most never filled out and submitted the rebate forms, giving us a higher profit for the vast majority of sales. So for us it was a win-win: we got more sales because we seemed cheaper, but we made more money.
I imagine they see a similar situation. Offer a deal that looks attractive, but that few customers will exploit to its fullest. You get more customers, but they don't cost nearly as much as they might. In spite of your assumption that customers make rational decisions, we/they rarely do.
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I am going to upload some and see what happens. They are a well known company from the UK and I already sell there through another microstock site. By uploading direct, I will hopefully see what I am making per sale and get more of the commission. I don't think it is worth focusing on what happens if buyers download the maximum because that isn't what usually happens.
Tried the online upload and its very good. No categories, just upload and forget about it.
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It says in their User Guide that they want images with 300 dpi. I remember Moodboard had a requirement like that.
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thanks for the reply Johnnie
So how are royalties calculated? If a buyer buys a package for 100 pounds and only uses 50% of his package on only my images and another photographers images, does that mean I'll get 30% of 100 pounds multiplied by .5 since half the sales were my images?
Is this calculated at the end of each month?
thanks.
Hi Leaf,
Yes and yes, please remember most isignstock buyers only download on average 2 images per week!
Thanks
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I guess we can do this like an Interview.
What sets your site(s) apart from the other Micros such as Shutterstock, Dreamstime, Fotolia and Istock?
Hi there!
To answer your question:
- isignstock targets the lucrative ‘sign maker/printer’ industry.
- To this end it uniquely features ‘vehicle templates’, ‘vehicle wraps’, ‘metallic layered files’ and ‘vinyl ready’ as well as normal EPS vector files.
- Ingram is working with major sign machinery manufacturers who are helping bring the site to market through their extensive distribution channels
- isignstock is provided by an established stock agency – Ingram Publishing which has existing sign maker, print and design buyers for its many other products.
Thanks,
Johnnie
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Yes and yes, please remember most isignstock buyers only download on average 2 images per week!
Thanks
That suggests to me that sales for most contributors are going to be few and far between and won't pay much anyway.
According to the UK site an annual 'Complete Subscription' costs £295. If a customer downloads 2 images per week (104 per year) then at 30% commission the contributor will receive just 85p (about $1.36) per sale __ and that's apparently for an 'extended license'.
Please can you explain what the 'extended license' means in this instance. Does it mean that the image can be replicated for an entire fleet of vehicles?
If a customer bought the 'Images only' subscription and downloaded the average of 2 images per week then the contributor would receive just 63p ($1.02) per sale. Of course in either case if the customer downloads more images than the average then there is no benefit to the contributor as they will simply be paid less per sale. As you have all the sales data I think you should be taking the risk and pay a fixed amount per sale.
Sorry Johnnie but I don't see that this is likely to generate any significant income for contributors __ maybe enough to buy an occasional frothy coffee by the sound of it.
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@ Johnnie,
I notice you avoided answering my post in your most recent replies, from which I can only draw one conclusion!
Sorry but for me there's already enough sites that are paying us next to nothing, the advantage being they have the sales quantities to justify uploading there, as gostwyck has stated in his post above even at your quoted "average download of 2 images a week" it means we'd receive very little in return for our work and I'd be supporting a site that in my mind is taking a step backwards in the amount we're being paid in commissions by agencies.
Given the latest outcry over the iStockphoto commission cut I find it hard to believe any contributors that take this business seriously will support a commission structure such as yours.
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Could you describe the requirements for 'vinyl ready' vectors. I'm unfamiliar with this type of format.
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Do you have FTP Johnnie? I was going to try uploading a few images to test things out and I could only find the browser uploader?
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Yes and yes, please remember most isignstock buyers only download on average 2 images per week!
Thanks
That suggests to me that sales for most contributors are going to be few and far between and won't pay much anyway.
According to the UK site an annual 'Complete Subscription' costs £295. If a customer downloads 2 images per week (104 per year) then at 30% commission the contributor will receive just 85p (about $1.36) per sale __ and that's apparently for an 'extended license'.
Please can you explain what the 'extended license' means in this instance. Does it mean that the image can be replicated for an entire fleet of vehicles?
If a customer bought the 'Images only' subscription and downloaded the average of 2 images per week then the contributor would receive just 63p ($1.02) per sale. Of course in either case if the customer downloads more images than the average then there is no benefit to the contributor as they will simply be paid less per sale. As you have all the sales data I think you should be taking the risk and pay a fixed amount per sale.
Sorry Johnnie but I don't see that this is likely to generate any significant income for contributors __ maybe enough to buy an occasional frothy coffee by the sound of it.
We expect to be selling tens of thousands of subscriptions and our average payment per image download is around one dollar. We have a direct sales team covering Europe and we have many existing customers who are in the process of subscribing or already have. May I add that our existing contributors on ingimage are generally very happy with their royalty payments.
The ‘Vehicle Outlines – Extended’ license is a subscription option for customers who just want access to this file type. With this they can download 1000 vehicle outlines over a year instead of the normal 200. They can’t download images with this subscription option.
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@ Johnnie,
I notice you avoided answering my post in your most recent replies, from which I can only draw one conclusion!
Sorry but for me there's already enough sites that are paying us next to nothing, the advantage being they have the sales quantities to justify uploading there, as gostwyck has stated in his post above even at your quoted "average download of 2 images a week" it means we'd receive very little in return for our work and I'd be supporting a site that in my mind is taking a step backwards in the amount we're being paid in commissions by agencies.
Given the latest outcry over the iStockphoto commission cut I find it hard to believe any contributors that take this business seriously will support a commission structure such as yours.
Sorry to miss your post: Like many other libraries we have a high maximum download figure for marketing purposes. Some customers will feel uncomfortable with a smaller limit - even if they are very unlikely to reach it.
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Could you describe the requirements for 'vinyl ready' vectors. I'm unfamiliar with this type of format.
Hello. A vinyl ready file will have no overcuts or overlapping shapes - thus optimised for a vinyl cutting machine.
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Do you have FTP Johnnie? I was going to try uploading a few images to test things out and I could only find the browser uploader?
Our new contributor area is currently using a browser upload and we encourage photographers to use this as it automatically extracts title and keyword information. However for larger submissions we can offer FTP support and will also accept external hard drives / DVDs.
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do u lock the file for certain period? do contributors have control over the files? to remove or disable?
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They are seriously calling themselves "iSignstock"? Wow. I smell an infringement lawsuit coming. ::)
Are you guys aware Dreamstime just closed a stock site calling itself "Dreamstock"?
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do u lock the file for certain period? do contributors have control over the files? to remove or disable?
Hi there. For removal requests we require 2 months for non exclusive and 6 months for exclusive. You can change metadata once images are live however you can’t delete from your portfolio without prior contact.
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Has anybody had some files reviewed by them? A point of concern is that their Alexa ranking is very low, somewhere in the 2 million range. Will they get enough traffic?
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do u lock the file for certain period? do contributors have control over the files? to remove or disable?
Hi there. For removal requests we require 2 months for non exclusive and 6 months for exclusive. You can change metadata once images are live however you can’t delete from your portfolio without prior contact.
Ouch. A good reason not to contribute there.
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anyway to upload eps vector to get IPTC read from preview jpg? filling every IPTC data for eps vector is taking too much time.
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I uploaded some stuff last week to test the waters, but so far no sign of life. Has anybody gotten images reviewed?
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Yea, I think I am going to take a pass on this one. I think I am better off with streamlining my Agencies and aim higher at the same time.
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bring up this question again, so there is no way to read IPTC for an eps vector?
anyway to upload eps vector to get IPTC read from preview jpg? filling every IPTC data for eps vector is taking too much time.
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bring up this question again, so there is no way to read IPTC for an eps vector?
anyway to upload eps vector to get IPTC read from preview jpg? filling every IPTC data for eps vector is taking too much time.
Hi there sorry for the slow reply.
Our current upload system does not support IPTC data extraction from JPG previews for EPS files. However there are a couple of ways around this. Firstly you could use our excel processor to upload a sheet of metadata. If you do not have the means to extract IPTC data into an excel sheet then we are happy to do this ourselves - all we require is that you send us your JPG previews via FTP or DVD.
We are currently developing full FTP support for the contributor area which will include JPG IPTC extraction for EPS files. I will keep you updated on this.
Thanks,
Johnnie
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I just tried to upload some images with releases and couldn't find a way to batch attach releases to images, and didn't see a way to attach several releases to a single image. Am I missing something?
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I just tried to upload some images with releases and couldn't find a way to batch attach releases to images, and didn't see a way to attach several releases to a single image. Am I missing something?
Hello. The best way to attach releases in batch is through the excel processor.
Firstly upload the relevant images and releases to your account. Then using our excel template list all filenames with the corresponding releases you wish to attach. Once processed, the releases will be linked to the images in your account. Please note a batch release application is also currently being worked on.
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Who do you partner with, because I found some of my images at your site?
http://www.isignstock.com/imagedetails/27152265_extInt0/02A164GN-Ingimage-Corner-of-a-tall-building.html (http://www.isignstock.com/imagedetails/27152265_extInt0/02A164GN-Ingimage-Corner-of-a-tall-building.html)
Also when looking at the "zoomed view - View image at 1000px", then there is not much of a watermark!
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Who do you partner with, because I found some of my images at your site?
[url]http://www.isignstock.com/imagedetails/27152265_extInt0/02A164GN-Ingimage-Corner-of-a-tall-building.html[/url] ([url]http://www.isignstock.com/imagedetails/27152265_extInt0/02A164GN-Ingimage-Corner-of-a-tall-building.html[/url])
Also when looking at the "zoomed view - View image at 1000px", then there is not much of a watermark!
likewise, would be interesting to know who the partner is . . . . and that 1000px view is a complete giveaway without a larger watermark.
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I just tried to upload some images with releases and couldn't find a way to batch attach releases to images, and didn't see a way to attach several releases to a single image. Am I missing something?
Hello. The best way to attach releases in batch is through the excel processor.
Firstly upload the relevant images and releases to your account. Then using our excel template list all filenames with the corresponding releases you wish to attach. Once processed, the releases will be linked to the images in your account. Please note a batch release application is also currently being worked on.
It is great that you have options like the excel processor but I am not sure any microstock photographer uses this method to organize their photos, keywords and releases as no other site offers this type of solution and for everything except the release, IPTC info is much more efficient.
Creating a spreadsheet to link images to model releases for 3000-4000 images is simply too time consuming to undertake for a single site. I think I'll have to wait for a speedy online solution.
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I uploaded some over 10 days ago but they are all stuck in "Images without metadata". I can see the titles and keywords, they're OK with all the other sites, so what's gone wrong?
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I uploaded some over 10 days ago but they are all stuck in "Images without metadata". I can see the titles and keywords, they're OK with all the other sites, so what's gone wrong?
Same for me,any feedback is appreciated!
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I spoke to them last week and as far as I understand, they have some problems with metadata.
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Johnnie emailed me after I made the post here, they are working on it.
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Has anybody who uploaded had their images reviewed and/or received the promised bonus?
It seems rather quiet there?!
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My first batch was reviewed, 100% acceptance. I'm not bothered about the upload bonus but I don't think they will pay out before that closes on the 15th.
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My first batch was reviewed, 100% acceptance. I'm not bothered about the upload bonus but I don't think they will pay out before that closes on the 15th.
That's good to hear. I had some stuff reviewed more than a week ago, but nothing since then. Maybe they have a big backlog.
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I checked my royalties report at Isignstock a couple of hours ago, and it showed 22downloads and 0£ in November. I checked again now, and the column with #downloads were gone ???
Anyone else experienced that?
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I have 150+ files online there, all uploaded before december 15th: no bonus, no royalties even no image views. Site looks dead to me
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They might only report sales and bonuses quarterly, so perhaps we will see something soon?
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I got a mail 13.Dec saying the latest royalties and the bonus payments were being calculated, and would be entered into the royalties sections before Christmas, but nothing yet. Guess it's just around the corner :)
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I uploaded a few files two or three months ago only to discover that the site was disfunctional. It wouldn't retain my edits, release attachments, etc. So I decided to forget about it. I recently received an email message from them, telling me that they had fixed some problems with the site, but doing so necessitated the removal of my photos, and that I would have to resubmit. I uploaded 14 photos on Dec 21 to "test the waters." The site seems to be functioning, and my photos are in the que awaiting review.
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I have about 300 images, half of them before nov 15th, and no royalties of any kind, neither from the number of files uploaded
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110 Images online for two months now, no view-no sales. Big zero. I guess the 0 zero customers dont buy these days...
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Still waiting... :-*
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Finally some earnings reported from November and December - and it actually looks good ;D
They beat the middle tier sites for me ;)
(excluding the upload bonus)
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I also had a few sales reported in december but i didn't get any upload bonus. i uploaded about 1200 images during the promo period.
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I have sales from november to january, each month more than the precedent one... What I don't know is if the total in the last month is the addition of all the months or only the volume of that one. Beacuse I can't find otherwise the total. I don't know either when we get paid...
In December it appears a quantity for my uploaded images in the promo period.
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Dear all,
Please accept my apologies for the lack of correspondence over the last month. I’m afraid we have had a few technical issues with royalty reporting and image views however everything has now been corrected. Royalties, bonus payments and image views are now all live and accurate in the contributor area. All the zero figures showing were almost certainly incorrect – I’m very sorry for any confusion or concern this has caused.
Moving forward we are currently working on a number of improvements for the contributor area which will hopefully make it a more user friendly experience. This includes batch release attaching and a scrolling feature between pages in the portfolio.
I would love to hear your thoughts on the contributor area - any suggestions for improvement or general feedback would be greatly welcomed.
We are also working on a variety of initiatives in order to further extend the reach of isignstock including our imminent alignment with a leading global supplier within the sign industry. Full implementation will take a few months but the beginning stages of this co-operation are already in motion. The consequent promotion through this partner's international dealer network will put your content in front of a whole new market.
With best regards,
Johnnie
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I have sales from november to january, each month more than the precedent one... What I don't know is if the total in the last month is the addition of all the months or only the volume of that one. Beacuse I can't find otherwise the total. I don't know either when we get paid...
In December it appears a quantity for my uploaded images in the promo period.
Hi there,
The amounts are not accumulative so this is what you made in each month. Our minimum payout with Paypal or Moneybookers is USD60/GBP40. You will need to request a payout - to do this please send us an invoice which includes PayPal or Moneybookers details. Our accounts department will process contributor payments in the second week of each month.
I hope this is helpful,
Johnnie
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Hi Johnny,
I just checked the website, has the promotion with bonus for uploading had delayed till this month 15?
I can't find the information which of my images had been downloaded..even i had seen some royalties in my account.
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Royalties, bonus payments and image views are now all live and accurate in the contributor area.
I can't see the bonus payment? At least the amount under royalties doesn't add up to be both picture sales and bonus.. especially considering I for a very short moment saw the number of pictures that were downloaded in November. Or is the bonus spread out on November, December and January?
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is there a ftp upload method?
I kept having failure using the uploading page that the downloading will have an error after partial uploading.
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If you can install a facility within your website where contributors can request for payout rather than sending you an invoice, would be a good feature to have.
I have sales from november to january, each month more than the precedent one... What I don't know is if the total in the last month is the addition of all the months or only the volume of that one. Beacuse I can't find otherwise the total. I don't know either when we get paid...
In December it appears a quantity for my uploaded images in the promo period.
Hi there,
The amounts are not accumulative so this is what you made in each month. Our minimum payout with Paypal or Moneybookers is USD60/GBP40. You will need to request a payout - to do this please send us an invoice which includes PayPal or Moneybookers details. Our accounts department will process contributor payments in the second week of each month.
I hope this is helpful,
Johnnie
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I would love to hear your thoughts on the contributor area - any suggestions for improvement or general feedback would be greatly welcomed.
FTP, please
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Honestly, without FTP, the upload process is so slow; it will take weeks to get the 250 images online needed for the bonus.
Even with my creepy slow internet in Far East Russia, I can Filezilla FTP 40 images in an hour. I have been on your site for an hour and have not completed five images.
Furthermore, with FTP, I can upload to multiple sites through lightburner; with your upload system, it is you and only you.
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If you can install a facility within your website where contributors can request for payout rather than sending you an invoice, would be a good feature to have.
+1
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i got some royalties in my account, i can't tell is it the sales of my images or the bonus for uploading?
has the bonus had been calculated and paid?
and why there is no FTP? I am not sure is it my internet connection slow since i kept having failure during uploading with no way to resume uploading.
the uploading tool is not reliable at all.
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hi all, is there a way to know which images had been downloaded in isignstock?
thank you.
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Hello everyone,
Thanks very much for all the replies. I'm thinking it may be best to discuss individual royalty payments by email so I don't clog up the thread.
[mtkang if you go to your royalties and then back to 2010 you should see your upload bonus. I have already spoken directly to kjorgen.]
We now have an FTP set up for contributors. If you wish to use this then please drop us an email and we will set you up with an account. The automated payout feature is a great idea and we will definitely look to implement this. I'm afraid we don't have download reporting in the contributor area due to the way our system is set up however this is something we hope to have in place in the future.
Please feel free to email me directly (johnnie[at]ingrampublishing.com) if you have any questions or concerns.
Once again thank you for all your feedback it’s much appreciated. I will do my best to keep you all updated on progress.
Have a great weekend,
Johnnie
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Thank you for taking the time to reply here, Johnnie. Looking forward to seeing growth at Isignstock!
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.We now have an FTP set up for contributors. If you wish to use this then please drop us an email and we will set you up with an account. .Johnnie
The bonus program ends Monday, wonder if they will get back to us prior to Monday with the FTP info; there is no way I can upload the bonus images individually to this website without ftp, just to time consuming.
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if you check the advertisement poster now, the date is 23 Feb??? it was previously 14 Feb?? so it seems the date is ever changing for 'new contributor'?
I submitted my first 50 images last year end when i saw this thread, and when i checked back the site i saw the poster mentioned 14 Feb, so i thought it is extended period, so i submitted more recently but i was told that the recent uploaded images aren't considered as bonus scheme.
If the date is updated every week for new contributors, i hope it is stated clearly as we are all aware. The poster info is misleading that i thought i am still 'new contributor' under the bonus scheme. I struggled the last few days with the uploading without ftp and realized i get nothing.
.We now have an FTP set up for contributors. If you wish to use this then please drop us an email and we will set you up with an account. .Johnnie
The bonus program ends Monday, wonder if they will get back to us prior to Monday with the FTP info; there is no way I can upload the bonus images individually to this website without ftp, just to time consuming.
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I submitted a bunch of photos on the 2nd as a new user, and they still have not been reviewed. Won't get a bonus if they don't review them.
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I submitted a bunch of photos on the 2nd as a new user, and they still have not been reviewed. Won't get a bonus if they don't review them.
If I understood the offering, the images must be uploaded by the 14th; but could be accepted after that date and still receive the bonus. I missed the bonus as my ftp info did not come till the 15th.
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I submitted a bunch of photos on the 2nd as a new user, and they still have not been reviewed. Won't get a bonus if they don't review them.
If I understood the offering, the images must be uploaded by the 14th; but could be accepted after that date and still receive the bonus. I missed the bonus as my ftp info did not come till the 15th.
Hello,
You are indeed correct, if the images are uploaded before the closing date but accepted afterwards they will still count. Please note we have extended the bonus scheme to the 23rd February to give everyone a chance to use the FTP. Just to be clear this is our second bonus scheme and it is only available to new contributors who have not uploaded images before.
Best regards,
Johnnie
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Anyone having any action at isignstock. Submitted 410 images, no review, unable to submit more as will not accept incoming FTP from lightburner.
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Anyone having any action at isignstock. Submitted 410 images, no review, unable to submit more as will not accept incoming FTP from lightburner.
I submitted a thousand pictures two weeks ago which are all still in the pending queue, not a good sign.
FTP from lightburner worked for me at the time (I didn't retry recently). Have you set the upload folder?
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Anyone having any action at isignstock. Submitted 410 images, no review, unable to submit more as will not accept incoming FTP from lightburner.
I submitted a thousand pictures two weeks ago which are all still in the pending queue, not a good sign.
FTP from lightburner worked for me at the time (I didn't retry recently). Have you set the upload folder?
yes, it was working during the promotion period but quit allowing uploads once the promotion ended. No worries, since the review is so slow I will put my efforts in other areas.
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any update about when revenues from the promotion period will be published? thanks
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there is still no info of which images had been downloaded and how much had been paid?
all i got is a sum number of royalties every month. I want to know what had been sold and how much it had been sold.
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My files were eventually reviewed. Near 100% acceptance.
there is still no info of which images had been downloaded and how much had been paid?
all i got is a sum number of royalties every month. I want to know what had been sold and how much it had been sold.
All I see is: "March 2011 £ 32,89 + $ 50 bonus"
It's a bit suspicious that the amount in pounds and dollars is roughly the same, so I don't even know if it's $50 bonus plus £32,89 sales or just the 50 dollars bonus expressed in pounds. If £32.89 is sales, it's pretty good since I've been there for one month only.
And I can't find the payment request button. Johnnie said in a previous post: "You will need to request a payout - to do this please send us an invoice which includes PayPal or Moneybookers details", but I'm not sure how it works: should I send an from PayPal or Moneybookers? To which email account?
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Isn't is easier for them to add a payment request on the site than for all of us to have to request payment via email? It's going to be more admin for them as well, I really think they should sort that out or just pay us automatically when we reach their payout level..
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I checked mine just now and I have 1.12 pounds plus $25 bonus. I just managed to upload on the very last day of the promotion, but I'm jealous that you got twice the bonus! I think this shows that the pounds bit must be sales though.
Steve
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My files were eventually reviewed. Near 100% acceptance.
there is still no info of which images had been downloaded and how much had been paid?
all i got is a sum number of royalties every month. I want to know what had been sold and how much it had been sold.
All I see is: "March 2011 £ 32,89 + $ 50 bonus"
It's a bit suspicious that the amount in pounds and dollars is roughly the same, so I don't even know if it's $50 bonus plus £32,89 sales or just the 50 dollars bonus expressed in pounds. If £32.89 is sales, it's pretty good since I've been there for one month only.
And I can't find the payment request button. Johnnie said in a previous post: "You will need to request a payout - to do this please send us an invoice which includes PayPal or Moneybookers details", but I'm not sure how it works: should I send an from PayPal or Moneybookers? To which email account?
Hi there,
These are separate figures. The £32.89 is your royalty for March and the $50 is your upload bonus. A payout request button is at the top of our improvement list and the technical team are currently work on this. In the meantime please drop me an e-mail (johnnieatingrampublishing.com) with your PayPal or Moneybookers address and I will forward this on to our finance department.
Thanks,
Johnnie
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Isn't is easier for them to add a payment request on the site than for all of us to have to request payment via email? It's going to be more admin for them as well, I really think they should sort that out or just pay us automatically when we reach their payout level..
Completely agree and as stated above a ‘request payment’ button is high on our agenda along with a number of other improvements to the contributor area. As always please feel free to drop me an e-mail if you have any questions, suggestions or concerns.
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Hi Johnnie,
Possible to give feedback to your management about getting the downloads details information available?
There is no other website just give me a lump sum number of cash, without letting me know which images had been downloaded, and at what price, and how many times it had downloaded. It is not a fair way to us, the contributors.
I would like to know this feature is coming within a date.
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Hi there,
These are separate figures. The £32.89 is your royalty for March and the $50 is your upload bonus. A payout request button is at the top of our improvement list and the technical team are currently work on this. In the meantime please drop me an e-mail (johnnieatingrampublishing.com) with your PayPal or Moneybookers address and I will forward this on to our finance department.
Thanks,
Johnnie
Thanks. Then I will wait for the payout request button, or ask for a unique payment every few months.
Having a report of downloaded pictures - not just total earnings - would be nice indeed.
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So any new news?
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I would love to hear your thoughts on the contributor area - any suggestions for improvement or general feedback would be greatly welcomed.
1922 IMAGES WAITING REVIEW FOR MORE THAN 60 DAYS!!! CAN I SUGGEST A REVIEW? IS THAT TOO MUCH? OH, ALSO, CAN YOU ANSWER EMAILS TOO? THAT WOULD BE SO NICE, THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL SUBMITTERS....
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I would love to hear your thoughts on the contributor area - any suggestions for improvement or general feedback would be greatly welcomed.
1922 IMAGES WAITING REVIEW FOR MORE THAN 60 DAYS!!! CAN I SUGGEST A REVIEW? IS THAT TOO MUCH? OH, ALSO, CAN YOU ANSWER EMAILS TOO? THAT WOULD BE SO NICE, THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL SUBMITTERS....
Oh yeah, it would be very nice to see the our files reviewed, this year if possible. My problem is that my files are not any more in pending, they are not refuzed or approved. I would like to know why.
On the other hand, I am happy that Isignstock has sales, maybe if the review could be better and somebody would answer e-mails, everithing would be great.
Thank you, Johnnie, in advance, if you'll answer .
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I would love to hear your thoughts on the contributor area - any suggestions for improvement or general feedback would be greatly welcomed.
1922 IMAGES WAITING REVIEW FOR MORE THAN 60 DAYS!!! CAN I SUGGEST A REVIEW? IS THAT TOO MUCH? OH, ALSO, CAN YOU ANSWER EMAILS TOO? THAT WOULD BE SO NICE, THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL SUBMITTERS....
Something went wrong with tags probably: the text in red quoted as mine is not mine. Not that I disagree anyway.
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Anybody has some reviews images at iSignstock this year? ???
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3387 images awaiting approval since two months :'(
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they approved all my pending queue in first week of june; since then, nothing - they seem to approve in batches
PS: I received a recent newsletter about new features in the contributor area, including a "quick payout button".
But I cannot find that button, anyone knows where is it?
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they approved all my pending queue in first week of june; since then, nothing - they seem to approve in batches
PS: I received a recent newsletter about new features in the contributor area, including a "quick payout button".
But I cannot find that button, anyone knows where is it?
I wrote them last week and they answered me that Johnny is on vacation and he will come back July 18...
I think he'll have some work to do, when he comes back ;)
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they approved all my pending queue in first week of june; since then, nothing - they seem to approve in batches
PS: I received a recent newsletter about new features in the contributor area, including a "quick payout button".
But I cannot find that button, anyone knows where is it?
I wrote them last week and they answered me that Johnny is on vacation and he will come back July 18...
I think he'll have some work to do, when he comes back ;)
I didn't know that employees in UK have three months of vacation a year. ;)
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I wrote them last week and they answered me that Johnny is on vacation and he will come back July 18...
I think he'll have some work to do, when he comes back ;)
Nice, so they were so impatient that they told us all the (actually good) news before doing the work
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Images reviewed. Miracles do happen.
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Images online, thank you isignstock. :)
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I asked for my first payment using their new payout request button. Payment came quickly, and in sound Pounds, not Dollars.
Sales are reported in time on first day of next month (although a full sales report would be appreciated)
Also, their answers are very professional.
With all the bad things going on in microstock, it's a refreshing experience to deal with a proper company. So far my experience with them is very positive - I had to say it.
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Dear All,
Please accept my apologies for the recent lack of correspondence. We have been super busy at isignstock over the last few months developing technical and commercial aspects of the site. Hopefully those of you already working with us will have had a chance to use the new features. I’m particularly pleased with the release manager which should make organising images and assigning releases a much easier experience. The request payment button also seems to be proving popular!
Another development is that we have started handpicking certain images to distribute on our premium royalty free subscription site www.ingimage.com (http://www.ingimage.com). Contributors involved in this premium isignstock collection can expect to see substantial royalty improvements.
The time spent on these developments has resulted in slow review times for certain contributors and I’m very sorry if you have been affected by this. We are endeavouring to have all images reviewed within a week of upload.
Thanks again for all your feedback. I appreciate that download reporting and sales specifics are high on some people’s list and we are still looking at ways to incorporate this. Naturally we will continue to look at other areas for potential improvement As always any suggestions or questions are more than welcomed.
With best regards,
Johnnie
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Hello Johnnie,
I would like to ask if there is any way how to get IPTC data from vector files. You don't want JPG previews and IPTC data from EPS files are ignored by your system. I don't want to copy keywords for the rest of my life. :)
Thanks.
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it is the only agency who doesn't give a sales report... are contributors kind of labour that doesn't need attentions? shouldn't we know which files had been downloaded and how much we had been paid?
it is really strange..and it is strange that most of the contributors have to accept this kind of conditions. I had stopped uploaded till i see the sales report.
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it is the only agency who doesn't give a sales report... are contributors kind of labour that doesn't need attentions? shouldn't we know which files had been downloaded and how much we had been paid?
it is really strange..and it is strange that most of the contributors have to accept this kind of conditions. I had stopped uploaded till i see the sales report.
Agreed that it is absolutely necessary to get such a report, but I think you are cutting your nose to spite your face. These guys are super friendly and the site has brought in much more for me than most of the so called "middle tier" ripoffs. Will keep on supporting a site with good sales, friendly staff, a sound history and the will to improve.
Best of luck to Johnnie and the team - make us proud! ;)
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Hello Johnnie,
I would like to ask if there is any way how to get IPTC data from vector files. You don't want JPG previews and IPTC data from EPS files are ignored by your system. I don't want to copy keywords for the rest of my life. :)
Thanks.
Hi there,
Yes you can get IPTC data from JPG for EPS through our FTP upload. I will send you an e-mail with the server details shortly!
Thanks,
Johnnie
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it is the only agency who doesn't give a sales report... are contributors kind of labour that doesn't need attentions? shouldn't we know which files had been downloaded and how much we had been paid?
it is really strange..and it is strange that most of the contributors have to accept this kind of conditions. I had stopped uploaded till i see the sales report.
Agreed that it is absolutely necessary to get such a report, but I think you are cutting your nose to spite your face. These guys are super friendly and the site has brought in much more for me than most of the so called "middle tier" ripoffs. Will keep on supporting a site with good sales, friendly staff, a sound history and the will to improve.
Best of luck to Johnnie and the team - make us proud! ;)
Thanks for the kind words CD123.
I completely understand the desire for detailed sales reports and our techincal guys have been looking at this for a while now. I will do my best to keep you all updated on progress with this.
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Isignstock has actually beaten istock, dreamstime and fotolia two months in a row, now! Still very far behind shutterstock, but this looks good :) Nice to see another company with good sales!!
I'm just wondering what I'm selling ;D
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Thanks for the positive feedback Kjorgen!
We are really keen to get more of you guys on board with us and are confident that we will compare favourably to the so called middle (if not higher) tier agencies.
We are more than happy to support large submissions via hard drive or FTP and assist with all the releases and data management.
As always please feel free to drop me an e-mail (johnnieatingrampublishing.com) if you have any questions.
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Thanks for the positive feedback Kjorgen!
We are really keen to get more of you guys on board with us and are confident that we will compare favourably to the so called middle (if not higher) tier agencies.
We are more than happy to support large submissions via hard drive or FTP and assist with all the releases and data management.
As always please feel free to drop me an e-mail (johnnieatingrampublishing.com) if you have any questions.
i had my first batch reviewed after a week or so, but the next batch has been sitting for more than a month - i asked support, but no reply
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Another development is that we have started handpicking certain images to distribute on our premium royalty free subscription site [url=http://www.ingimage.com]www.ingimage.com[/url] ([url]http://www.ingimage.com[/url]). Contributors involved in this premium isignstock collection can expect to see substantial royalty improvements.
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My attention was drawn to ingImage today, and I was taken aback to read the following on the front page:
"Outstanding quality
Unlike other subscriptions our content is NOT ‘crowd sourced’ - which means you’re always assured technically usable images created by skilled and experienced artists."
Really?
This remark is dripping with condescension towards microstock contributors, and seems to reflect a somewhat outdated view of what it takes to get images approved at the major microstock sites today.
I note that you describe the collection as "tightly edited" but you have work from the big micro stock factories - Yuri Arcurs, Monkey Business Images - just less of it. About one tenth the selection you'd find at Shutterstock, but not noticeably different when looking at a few sample searches.
When you look at popular images at your site and Shutterstock and see many of the same images, it rather gives the lie to this "we're better than microstock" advertising pitch.
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Another development is that we have started handpicking certain images to distribute on our premium royalty free subscription site [url=http://www.ingimage.com]www.ingimage.com[/url] ([url]http://www.ingimage.com[/url]). Contributors involved in this premium isignstock collection can expect to see substantial royalty improvements.
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My attention was drawn to ingImage today, and I was taken aback to read the following on the front page:
"Outstanding quality
Unlike other subscriptions our content is NOT ‘crowd sourced’ - which means you’re always assured technically usable images created by skilled and experienced artists."
Really?
This remark is dripping with condescension towards microstock contributors, and seems to reflect a somewhat outdated view of what it takes to get images approved at the major microstock sites today.
I note that you describe the collection as "tightly edited" but you have work from the big micro stock factories - Yuri Arcurs, Monkey Business Images - just less of it. About one tenth the selection you'd find at Shutterstock, but not noticeably different when looking at a few sample searches.
When you look at popular images at your site and Shutterstock and see many of the same images, it rather gives the lie to this "we're better than microstock" advertising pitch.
I’m sorry that you find this sentence condescending towards microstock contributors this was by no means our intention.
Unlike most microstock sites ingimage does not have a direct upload system for contributors – I suppose you could say we are invite only. Also, we have a minimum size requirement which is significantly larger than (as far as I know) all other microstock sites. Finally all images are carefully edited, catalogued and ranked on an individual basis before upload.
Please also understand that this is part of our marketing approach towards customers in a very competitive market. It is not directed at contributors - we have no desire to insult you or anyone else.
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I don't find it condescending. Go to any of the sites and they highlight something that makes them different to the other sites.
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I don't find it condescending. Go to any of the sites and they highlight something that makes them different to the other sites.
I agree, it is just promotional talk directed towards potential buyers of images.
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@ Johnnie
How long it take for images to be approved?
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@ Johnnie
How long it take for images to be approved?
Hi Suljo. We aim to keep review times to under a week however sometimes it can take a bit longer. As I mentioned in another thread please always feel to drop me (johnnie[at]ingrampublishing.com) or my colleague Lotti (lotti[at]ingrampublishing.com) an email and we will prioritise your files for review.
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I just wish to report a nice fact. I forgot to attach model releases to a few pictures and - instead of just rejecting files as most other agencies do - Lotti from iSignstock emailed me asking to add releases!
Now this is probably nothing special in itself, but - being accustomed to unpolite (at best) behaviour by many agencies towards their contributors - it's an impressive difference which further increases my trust in this agency. It gives the impression that there are real people caring about their business instead of just some underpaid home workers random rejecting to clear a batch. Thanks!
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I just wish to report a nice fact. I forgot to attach model releases to a few pictures and - instead of just rejecting files as most other agencies do - Lotti from iSignstock emailed me asking to add releases!
Now this is probably nothing special in itself, but - being accustomed to unpolite (at best) behaviour by many agencies towards their contributors - it's an impressive difference which further increases my trust in this agency. It gives the impression that there are real people caring about their business instead of just some underpaid home workers random rejecting to clear a batch. Thanks!
Always said they are different. What they short on site functionality, they make up with super friendly, reliable, professional and fast service.
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I also admit that they have good and friendly contributor support and it is great.
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I also admit that they have good and friendly contributor support and it is great.
I know that tis thread is "old".
But I must say that today, close to 2020, they have a very bad contributor support…
I sent them 3 mails and I never got any answer.
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I thought they were dead.
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Does anyone know all (or some) partners of Ingram stock?
I have a strange situation with Ingram and want to search for all partners, to know where are my images distributed.