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« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2009, 02:46 »
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i too cannot help to think that you are indeed not answering the questions posted by many of us here (Geo, mela, et al), choosing instead to fudge around and doublespeak.

Well, let's summarize some claims & answers posted above, just to be sure that they are answered and nothing was left in the air.

Claim: There is no physical address on their site.
Answer: This is incorrect, just go to our site and check by yourself.

Claim: They came with unfair commission to the contributor.
Answer: We offer $0.40/credit non-exclusive commission, which is currently 40%-53% depending on the credits/package price. It is quite hard to call it unfair.

Claim: Their idea is just to sell for less, undercuting the competition with $0.75 credit price while others charge $1 - $1.5 per credit
Answer: It would be wrong to compare credit prices for small credits packages and big packages. The credit prices for our small packages ($1) are on par with the competition as well as $0.75/credit price for a large credits package.

Claim: Their images sizes are designed to take some advantage.
Answer: We offer exactly the same pixel-to-pixel sizes like iStock do, there is nothing new here.

Claim: They offer a ridiculous $1.5 contributor's commission for a EL sale, while Shutterstock' commission is $28.
Answer: Shutterstock sells 6,000x6,000 or 3,000x3,000 ELs only. If we sell a 6,000x6,000 EL the contributor's cut is $24, quite similar to $28 and definitely on par with many others.

No I do not think I left too many unanswered questions here.

The two last questions were:

Q: Why do you feel that it will be correct to offer unlimited run with the standard license?
A: Because we believe that the market goes in this direction. The current market leaders already did it or will do it soon.

Q: Why do you offer small size EL licenses?
A: Because others do not, and we want to give it a try.
Being a commercial venture, we'll definitely try to maximize our revenues if we'll see a strong demand for this type of size/license, meaning that the prices and your revenues will go up.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 03:10 by davidm »


« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2009, 04:59 »
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Q: Why do you feel that it will be correct to offer unlimited run with the standard license?
A: Because we believe that the market goes in this direction. The current market leaders already did it or will do it soon.

Q: Why do you offer small size EL licenses?
A: Because others do not, and we want to give it a try.

I smell a contradiction here.

« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2009, 05:26 »
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I think it's not bad idea to have different sized ELs,but the minimum for the smallest size should be at least $10 for the contributor and you still can have the cheapest ELs in the market.
I'm registered with Pixamba but actualy the EL issue is the only thing that stopping me to start uploading.

« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2009, 06:57 »
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I think it's not bad idea to have different sized ELs,but the minimum for the smallest size should be at least $10 for the contributor and you still can have the cheapest ELs in the market.
I'm registered with Pixamba but actually the EL issue is the only thing that stopping me to start uploading.
We are here and we are listening carefully.

You are absolutely right - EL pricing is the only question which remains open here after such a long and colorful discussion.
$10 with $0.4/credit contributor's commission makes $25 for a microstock XS EL. This is slightly more than $18 which is the agreed XS EL price for our midstock collection.

Respecting the opinions of people who posted here and their industry experience, I assume that it can be the right thing to make our EL pricing the same for both micro- and midstock collections. Thus, all ELs in both collections will go like this:

EL XS - 18 credits -> $7.2 to the contributor
EL S - 39 credits -> $15.6 to the contributor
EL M - 109 credits -> $43.6 to the contributor
EL L - 169 credits -> $67.6 to the contributor
EL XL - 189 credits -> $75.6 to the contributor
EL XXL - 239 credits -> $95.8 to the contributor
EL XXXL - 289 credits -> $115.6 to the contributor

I think such a pricing can work for all parties involved. Your input are welcome.

« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2009, 07:07 »
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That looks better, I especially like the XXXL EL :)  I sometimes sell EL's for $100 or more on the other sites, so I don't see a problem with higher prices.  As people are using these on products, I presume the license fee isn't going to make a huge difference to their profit margin.

« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2009, 08:44 »
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Why not sell ELs on M and above only?

« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2009, 09:04 »
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Why not sell ELs on M and above only?

+1

as said above, for ELs size does not matter. Different licence matters.

« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2009, 12:28 »
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I think such a pricing can work for all parties involved. Your input are welcome.

We're almost there, just delete the very small sizes for EL. ELs don't happen that often and buyers don't care that much for 10$ if they can market a template e.g. for thousands.

« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2009, 14:33 »
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I think a lot of people are like me. I was put off uploading by the extended licence pricing.
Now, let us know when you have FTP uploading, and we will be looking at your site with interest!

« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2009, 17:32 »
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imo, kudos to David for working through some hard questions and critisicms and for listening and making changes.  Certainly beats the 1 post wonders :)

« Reply #60 on: July 09, 2009, 12:26 »
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Thanks guys, this thread was full of feedback, what turned to be really helpful and pushed us in the right direction.
I guess people had a chance to post their thoughts here in the last 24h. And we used this time talking to the buyers about their ELs-buying habits, trying to understand the EL prices elasticity.

Here are the results:

We have united both ELs, micro- and midstock, and the final ELs table which we already put in work at Pixamba looks this way:

EL XS - 69 credits -> $27.6 to the contributor, i.e. we match Shutterstock payout starting from the XS EL sale
EL S - 89 credits -> $35.6 to the contributor

----- all the rest goes like it was shown above -----

EL M - 109 credits -> $43.6 to the contributor
EL L - 169 credits -> $67.6 to the contributor
EL XL - 189 credits -> $75.6 to the contributor
EL XXL - 239 credits -> $95.8 to the contributor
EL XXXL - 289 credits -> $115.6 to the contributor

Next, following Geo' confusion with Pixamba credits pricing we have added 'Credits packages' price table to 'Prices and Licenses'.

Third, FAQ is modified clearly stating that the contributors commission is $0.40/credit, whatever is the credit' price in the purchased package.

Fourth, we start seeing some tiny sales coming, 5-10 credits packages, downloading SL-micros mostly in XS-S range, here and there, drop by drop.

« Reply #61 on: July 09, 2009, 17:09 »
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Now everything with ELs is OK for me to start uploading !
The next is sales :)

« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2009, 08:39 »
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Good response, David.  Sounds like Pixamba is willing to listen and keep and open mind.

« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2009, 16:29 »
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How about the site's Forum David?
When do you think it will be up and running?

« Reply #64 on: July 11, 2009, 15:44 »
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How about the site's Forum David?

I'd rather prefer flash-multiupload or FTP, and a proper Release management first. Right now, you can only attach one single release. The "isolated" checkbox can be prefilled checked/unchecked by determining the % if pixels #FFF > 15. The "number of people" can easily be derived from the number of attached model releases. Ah yes, and there is a typo in the Categories: "chrisitan" instead of "christian".  ;)

Good thing that the keywords are not re-ranked alphabetically. For those contributors that put their most relevant keywords first in the IPTC, it's easy to determine relevance in the search algorithm.

« Reply #65 on: July 21, 2009, 04:55 »
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David, your forum construction is taking some time.
Is there a hold up with the cement delivery? :D

Would be nice to have it so that people could interact more and get ideas etc going.

« Reply #66 on: August 08, 2009, 08:41 »
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Things have gone very quiet at Pixamba - have you noticed?
And still no forum.

« Reply #67 on: August 11, 2009, 19:32 »
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HMMM sincelast week I can't upload illustrations.
Any one the same problem?????

Photo's no problem at all.


 

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