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« Reply #100 on: September 11, 2014, 04:33 »
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We would like to thank Tyler and the team for allowing us to advertise on MicroStock Group and hope our advertising does not annoy people too much.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2014, 04:39 by Jack-Stocktal »


ShadySue

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« Reply #101 on: September 11, 2014, 04:57 »
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We would like to thank Tyler and the team for allowing us to advertise on MicroStock Group and hope our advertising does not annoy people too much.
Advertise as much as you like to those who don't mind, but it shouldn't over-ride my choice to use AdBlock. Not fully sure whether that's your fault or Tyler's, given that the only other ad I see on here is the Expo one, and I think that's sort of tied up with msg in some way. (I know there are plenty more, as I haven't got round to putting an ad blocker on my phone.)

« Reply #102 on: September 11, 2014, 05:07 »
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Hi Jack

About categories...

What you saying makes sense but.... there are more options that can make things easier for contributors from your side...like:

1) Auto categories based on keywords, lot of  sites do have that option ...or

2) Batch categorizing images which would also be a huge time saving for most if not all of contributors

Because when you are speaking about cooperative move by contributor and only 1 category click and 10 million potential images you are also taking about 10 million clicks which means thousands clicks plus scrolling for some contributors  image after image.

So my question would be...is there a chance you were planning to add such or some other options in that direction in the future because that would really be cooperative from your side and make your contributors life easier and give them more time for producing wonderful stuff ?

Thanks

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #103 on: September 11, 2014, 05:36 »
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OK, so you are now going to absorb the former unexplained "10% tax" from your 22% profit. Wow! You need to give the other agencies lessons in sustainability.

You haven't explained how you are going to aggresively market the site on such a low margin.

You still haven't answered at which point you tell EU buyers about VAT. I went through your system as though I was going to buy a file, and at no time did it mention VAT. If you add it after someone has committed to paying, that's illegal, you need to tell us before we agree to pay. We are used to having prices quoted inclusive of VAT, so it always jars when companies out of the EU add it after we go into the payment system, but of course, most agencies are outwith the EU and it's normally added at the point a file goes into the shopping basket / equivalent.

If you don't know about VAT, you can read the brief Wikipedia summary of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_value_added_tax#VAT_rates
Every EU country can set its own VAT, which be a flat rate or different across goods and services or can vary according to what's being sold. Also be aware that these rates can and do change at any time, and if you want to sell in the EU you need to collect the VAT and remit it correctly.
Presumably there's some sort of Australian organisation set up to help companies selling to the EU that can help you with this, otherwise you could start by contacting this lot to get pointed in the right direction (they advise UK companies about VAT in the rest of the EU, so they probably can't help directly) http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/index.htm

You said, "Is a lay-persons money for an image any different to a producer working at FOX network for the same license? " but at the same time, you show no inclination to fix the problem that causes Virgin Media, a company which apparently provided "around 4.2 million with broadband internet services" in 2012 to block you.

How can we take anyone seriously who said, "The weight on Stocktal shoulders is 10 million screaming, angry, creative artists with a rage to sell. The remaining 15 can upload to the redundant agencies. " http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/new-site-stocktal/msg392997/#msg392997

And while I'm at it, "there'd be not a squeak in the house mate, gobs open, minds ponderin, you get me?", though colloquial, is actually much clearer than a lot of the wording on your site.


« Last Edit: September 11, 2014, 06:19 by ShadySue »

« Reply #104 on: September 11, 2014, 05:45 »
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Hi Jack

About categories...

What you saying makes sense but.... there are more options that can make things easier for contributors from your side...like:

1) Auto categories based on keywords, lot of  sites do have that option ...or

2) Batch categorizing images which would also be a huge time saving for most if not all of contributors

Because when you are speaking about cooperative move by contributor and only 1 category click and 10 million potential images you are also taking about 10 million clicks which means thousands clicks plus scrolling for some contributors  image after image.

So my question would be...is there a chance you were planning to add such or some other options in that direction in the future because that would really be cooperative from your side and make your contributors life easier and give them more time for producing wonderful stuff ?

Thanks

Hi Lizard, thank you for your question and its a good one.

We are in pre-launch, no apologies there, StockTal is barely beta much less VERSION 1.0

Don't agree with others (not you) that say the upload experience is bad unless you want to upload images the size of the side of a barn - we need some time to coordinate our resources.

StockTal is functional and ready to sell.

Believe it or not, we WANT all the talent in the world. We dont require exclusive images, BUT we do require your  genuine title, description and keyword input. Why? Because a search engine has no clue what your image is. They need text. If you are pasting keywords and titles/descriptions from your other submissions in other agencies to StockTal, you may as well spend that time you spent uploading, instead go fishing or shopping or go party at a bar, because that work ...if not original, the text not genuinely created? is just lost and your file on our site? a waste of bytes.

« Reply #105 on: September 11, 2014, 05:57 »
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Shadysue

Hi,

I went through your system as though I was going to buy a file, and at no time did it mention VAT.


You're from the US? wouldn't show up for you even if we did continue with it.

Its gone plain and simple. Nothing to be concerned about about further.

« Reply #106 on: September 11, 2014, 06:01 »
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Honestly, I'm not sure why you guys are spending so much time on this.  The site obviously has lots of issues (and the design is very 2000-ish) - I don't even know what "Stocktal is traction" is supposed to mean.  It doesn't sound at all like they have it at all together yet.

« Reply #107 on: September 11, 2014, 06:05 »
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Honestly, I'm not sure why you guys are spending so much time on this.  The site obviously has lots of issues (and the design is very 2000-ish) - I don't even know what "Stocktal is traction" is supposed to mean.  It doesn't sound at all like they have it at all together yet.

Hi Sean, love Stocksy mate. Above average ethos and good look. Not sure about the question but if you have one I'd be glad to respond.

Thanks.

Ubermansch

  • Im designed to think
« Reply #108 on: September 11, 2014, 06:11 »
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Hi Jack,

Is that why I got the speeding ticket? No category choice? Non original titles and keywords?

ok but why do others upload stuff that has no category. You deserve all karma dude, its just right. But please tell me why I got a slow down ticket?

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #109 on: September 11, 2014, 06:16 »
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Shadysue

Hi,

I went through your system as though I was going to buy a file, and at no time did it mention VAT.


You're from the US? wouldn't show up for you even if we did continue with it.

Its gone plain and simple. Nothing to be concerned about about further.

No, I'm from the UK, where you must apply VAT to sales, as in the rest of the EU.
I'm not concerned, it's nothing at all to do with me.
But you should be.

« Reply #110 on: September 11, 2014, 06:26 »
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Hi Jack,

Is that why I got the speeding ticket? No category choice? Non original titles and keywords?

ok but why do others upload stuff that has no category. You deserve all karma dude, its just right. But please tell me why I got a slow down ticket?

Hi Darren, your work is amazing, a little dated. Curator's chose to slow you down for various reasons. No biggie mate, keep your submissions down to 1 gig per day.

Shadysue

Not sure what you're referring to and now reassessing your opinions regarding our TOS. Thanks for your efforts.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #111 on: September 11, 2014, 06:33 »
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Shadysue
Not sure what you're referring to and now reassessing your opinions regarding our TOS. Thanks for your efforts.
I'm referring to Value Added Tax, which you must know about if you are intending to sell to the EU. Seems I was right about your 'legal eagle' not being qualified in international law.
I've already provided you with two links, so you can begin to educate yourself there.
Reassess / ignore this at your peril.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2014, 06:38 by ShadySue »

« Reply #112 on: September 11, 2014, 06:37 »
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Jack - Once images are reviewed and approved, do you allow the approved images to be deleted (physical deletion) or can they only be disabled (to prevent them from being sold going forward).
Thanks.

« Reply #113 on: September 11, 2014, 06:42 »
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Shadysue
Not sure what you're referring to and now reassessing your opinions regarding our TOS. Thanks for your efforts.
I'm referring to Value Added Tax, which you must know about if you are intending to sell to the EU. Seems I was right about your 'legal eagle' not being qualified in international law.
I've already provided you with two links, so you can begin to educate yourself there.
Reassess / ignore this at your peril.

Absolute nonsense. We are inventing the world. Imagine all the shackles that you desire.

« Reply #114 on: September 11, 2014, 06:44 »
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Jack - Once images are reviewed and approved, do you allow the approved images to be deleted (physical deletion) or can they only be disabled (to prevent them from being sold going forward).
Thanks.

pixol,

you can do anything you wish, they are your works. Deleting images requires no review.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #115 on: September 11, 2014, 06:49 »
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Shadysue
Not sure what you're referring to and now reassessing your opinions regarding our TOS. Thanks for your efforts.
I'm referring to Value Added Tax, which you must know about if you are intending to sell to the EU. Seems I was right about your 'legal eagle' not being qualified in international law.
I've already provided you with two links, so you can begin to educate yourself there.
Reassess / ignore this at your peril.

Absolute nonsense. We are inventing the world. Imagine all the shackles that you desire.

Yaaaay - Anarchy at work.
Whoopee!

« Reply #116 on: September 11, 2014, 06:58 »
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Yaaaay - Anarchy at work.
Whoopee!
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An Australian company does not collect revenue for England. Scotland can vouch for that.

« Reply #117 on: September 11, 2014, 06:59 »
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Honestly, I'm not sure why you guys are spending so much time on this.  The site obviously has lots of issues (and the design is very 2000-ish) - I don't even know what "Stocktal is traction" is supposed to mean.  It doesn't sound at all like they have it at all together yet.

Hi Sean, love Stocksy mate. Above average ethos and good look. Not sure about the question but if you have one I'd be glad to respond.

Thanks.

It was directed to the members who seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time tutoring :)

Ubermansch

  • Im designed to think
« Reply #118 on: September 11, 2014, 07:04 »
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An Australian company does not collect revenue for England. Scotland can vouch for that.

Also Scotland is having a referendum this month to become independent of the UK, so weird. Jack thanks, no problems have no issue with that.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #119 on: September 11, 2014, 07:04 »
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Yaaaay - Anarchy at work.
Whoopee!
An Australian company does not collect revenue for England. Scotland can vouch for that.
I'm Scottish, and you clearly know nothing.
Do you think that all the other agencies would tie up administrative resources on this if it wasn't a legal requirement?

Ubermansch

  • Im designed to think
« Reply #120 on: September 11, 2014, 07:09 »
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Honestly, I'm not sure why you guys are spending so much time on this.  The site obviously has lots of issues (and the design is very 2000-ish) - I don't even know what "Stocktal is traction" is supposed to mean.  It doesn't sound at all like they have it at all together yet.



Thanks.

It was directed to the members who seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time tutoring :)

Hi Sean, such a strange approach. Stocksy is awesome and worthy of full recognition. Why you guys would come here to quibble about nothing is weirder still? Without an actual question? Whats the question?
« Last Edit: September 11, 2014, 07:14 by Ubermansch »

ShadySue

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« Reply #121 on: September 11, 2014, 07:13 »
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Honestly, I'm not sure why you guys are spending so much time on this.  The site obviously has lots of issues (and the design is very 2000-ish) - I don't even know what "Stocktal is traction" is supposed to mean.  It doesn't sound at all like they have it at all together yet.

Hi Sean, love Stocksy mate. Above average ethos and good look. Not sure about the question but if you have one I'd be glad to respond.

Thanks.

It was directed to the members who seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time tutoring :)
They over-rode my choice with their advert, and I was hacked off. Plus it's more fun than Candy Crush on a gardening break.
But the garden calls again, so I'll see if I can put a whole thread on 'ignore'.  8)

Ubermansch

  • Im designed to think
« Reply #122 on: September 11, 2014, 07:17 »
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omfg...gardening...I dont even know a thing about gardening.

looking for updates on that :)

« Reply #123 on: September 11, 2014, 07:24 »
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My time was allocated for this today, the questions are great. The comments are great. Thank you all.

Jack Reynolds
Co founder
StockTal

« Reply #124 on: September 11, 2014, 07:29 »
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I can see some more problems.. i think there will be no revenue.
For example the bad search engine..
@stocktal
Will it be possible to search with keywords in other languages than english?
I do not think customers always search in international language ;)

And this 2000s look  ::) I do not talk about responsive design.
But i like the stocktal idea. Go better stocktal !


 

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