jatrax and dirkr,

Im sorry to hear about your intentions. We are trying to help you sell, we are trying to help you be visible. jatracks, your portfiolio is very good with some small duplicate problems that can easily be resolved.

We don't have any business together unless StockTal can perform the function of retailer for you. At 78% we have to sell 100% more to cover our costs than other lower paying agencies. Thats why we are sharp about our research and trying to help members understand whats needed.

This stuff is not for a public forum, but contact me jtrax, lets chat. jack stocktal. com

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Cascoly,

I looked at your account and you have 100 shots of money that do not at all look like they were taken by you. Can you confirm these generic shots of different world currencies are taken by your hand? Contact me as above mate. Without disrespect, we can sort any small problems out.

Ultimately the work submitted so far is amazing. Theres some small problems and Im sorry for any difficulties, but we will go forward together.

Jack

jatrax and dirkr,

Im sorry to hear about your intentions. We are trying to help you sell, we are trying to help you be visible. jatracks, your portfiolio is very good with some small duplicate problems that can easily be resolved.

We don't have any business together unless StockTal can perform the function of retailer for you. At 78% we have to sell 100% more to cover our costs than other lower paying agencies. Thats why we are sharp about our research and trying to help members understand whats needed.

This stuff is not for a public forum, but contact me jtrax, lets chat. jack stocktal. com

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Cascoly,

I looked at your account and you have 100 shots of money that do not at all look like they were taken by you. Can you confirm these generic shots of different world currencies are taken by your hand? Contact me as above mate. Without disrespect, we can sort any small problems out.

Ultimately the work submitted so far is amazing. Theres some small problems and Im sorry for any difficulties, but we will go forward together.

Jack

Look at his ports. He is a world traveler, that's what he does. Sorry Jack, but your post sounds accusatory, and without any evidence. Are you going to get knee-jerked every time someone uploads legit images that you feel "just don't feel right to you?"

besides the comments from the folks above (thanks all!), the BIGGER concern is that those images have been listed as approved since the start, and there was never any indication they were being questioned

and Jack STILL hasn't answered the intial 2 questions

1. support said uploaded images could be rejected by 'reviewers' with NO response to uloader!  confirm or deny!

2. newly uploaded images just disappear! never show up in pending or rejected


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and now we're told categories ARE going to be required after just a week or so jack told us  right here that they were NOT going to use them!

An Australian company does not collect revenue for England. Scotland can vouch for that.

You need to charge TVA/VAT if you are selling to EU clients. Even if you are outside the EU. And EU clients will need invoices detailing that when they come to submit their company tax returns.

It does not imply that you are collecting taxes for a foreign govt. That's not how it works. Your lawyers and accounts should be able to explain this to you better. All companies selling digital goods into the EU are required to charge TVA/VAT. Have a look at how the established sites do it.

Why are we even giving this bunch the benefit of the doubt?

Because they are offering 78% return on each sale. If this site actually starts selling stuff, all this vitriol will quickly be forgotten and photographers will flock in droves to be a part of it. It's what we've been asking for all these years. A fair return on our work.

Quote from: Mantis on September 06, 2014, 19:32

From their website:

"A good size is 2000 x 3000px approximately. 1 to 3 megabytes is perfect. We allow up to 10 mb but actively discourage members constantly uploading 8, 9 or 10 mb images. Its not the business niche we are targeting.

If you intend to partner with stocktal, set your camera size to output images around 2000 to 3000 no bigger than 4 or 5 mb. Existing images can easily be transformed."

That's an awful lot to ask of people.  If I have a 24MP camera, I am expected to create two file. I am certainly not going to set my camera to a lower output like you suggest, rather I am going to shoot at the max size I can, which means I would have to resize in post.  And I have probably 2500 images I'd have to go back and resize.  If you have your heart set on this your system should automatically recognize file dimensions and resize automatically.

Really how hard would it be to do a bulk edit. If you have your images tagged Vertical and Horizontal, you would only need to do 2 bulk edits, one for each. So maybe 5 minutes work to set that up once and then after it runs another 5 minutes. There are plenty of reasons not to join them but not knowing how to resize a batch of photos which is a very basic skill does not seem to be a good one. And yet the post is voted up.

If you have time to do that you are free to proceed. I am not going to waste my time, to be honest.  If there was a real opportunity with these folks I might think about it.  But it would be a complete waste of my time given the questions and responses from this thread.  But to turn the tables, shouldn't it be THEM who should adapt? In this day and age, it should be very easy for them to resize our images. Why should hundreds if not thousands of prospective contributors have to size their images back to the dinosaur days? Just saying.

If you notice, the only 'innovation' and 'thinking out of the box' is a number that is quite 'unsustainable'.  A royalty percentage is not all there is, as Joanne says.

This site...stocktal...is the justice we need to change everything. It forces other dictators into line and if it doesn't...it makes sense. 78%

A high royalty percentage is a fine thing, but by itself it's irrelevant.  A high percentage of nothing is nothing, and unless there's something that compels buyers as well as suppliers, nothing good will happen.  A new agency that brings in few purchases won't force anybody else to do anything.  Besides, I fear that such a high royalty is (and here comes that word) unsustainable; it leaves the agency with insufficient revenue to fund development and marketing, both of which are required to create a viable business.

I've thrown a few images at Stocktal; if any of them sell, I'll add more.  I've seen too many agencies go nowhere to put in a major effort on mere faith.  But go ahead; I was about to say that your mileage may vary, but I don't believe it will.

@Ubermansch

Since you�re so supportive, I�m sure you won�t mind giving us a link to your portfolio at Stocktal, would you?

I was looking for it - out of curiosity - but I couldn�t find it... 

I really don`t like ubermansch fanatic stocktal love.  But i also do not understand many members. I saw a couple of people talking bad / laughing about 50% business concepts. I saw people want to get higher percentage than 50%. This is a over-50-percent-business (stocktal).. guys..?
Now i read agencys with low revenue can`t make marketing concepts ("..to fund development and marketing"). I saw another thread msg members laughing about the agency`s reply "more than 50% isnt possible. It seems that here are several people who dont like both business concepts. That`s really funny to read:)
But sad at the same time. no matter what is published here, it receives no support.

If you read the thread carefully, the concerns over StockTal (or SockTal as Jack called it in his last post) have little, if anything, to do with the percentage rate; though they haven't explained how they are going to market and pay staff on 22%.
There are concerns far more serious than percentage rate.
The kindest 'take' is that they came here at too early a stage in their planning, before they knew anything about the business.
Their less-than-professional replies to some serious questions don't give hope.

Still, as I posted in reply #78, "You can all laugh at me five years down the line when you're millionaires."

So your vote is NO...we dont want 78% We'd like to be ripped off instead. Thats your public stand?

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What do staff cost per day...look this site needs support.

Im serious here, stop crying about the small details and start supporting this thing.

You are being influenced by people that dont even have an account on stocktal. They are just random drop ins and probably the same person with 10 different accounts.
......I WANT 78% not 30 cents in dollar

how can you expect to be taken seriously when you deliberately distort what people have said here? 

how many 78% sales have YOU had on stocktal?  you blast in here anon and then have the chutzpah to accuse other people of being trolls?

When is StockTal's official launch? Someone sees some sale? Anyone saw anything sold so far?

I am also supporting them.
They asked me to resize(diamensions and size MB) my images, which I did using a batch script. It just took few minutes and uploaded them. Next they asked me to take out duplicate images, that also followed. Though my portfolio has shrunk a bit but I would say it is still better there.

Views are rising but waiting to see the real sale.