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« on: January 23, 2013, 12:01 »
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Hi people. I was startint my new new site after trying make it from a blog and i think i can make an investment and do something better so im made the Newlight Agency. I think , if i will do all this work for me , why not do it for everyone and that is the base of this topic. I only got the site online yesterday and is missing many things (is in tests yet ) so im asking if there is someone here that can help me with my project .

  I want to start this inside the community and listening all your opinions and experience. I need to test the functions of site and set prices, think about servers (dedicated servers) , licenses, and all of that. I want to ask you to register as gold member and upload 10 images . Please , dont upload originals, upload files with 2000px maximum with your watermark. Is just for testing. Give me your opinion to get this better and if you want contribute after the betta period i will be very grateful .

  I am starting from 0,00 , server dont have many space (50gb only) , all this have to be moved into a dedicated server after but is a big investment. I will consider this after read your opinion , put the site good in good conditions, and have some bases to start.

Please , can you lost 10min of your time to help me?

If you submit as a bach you can put the iptc to all that bach in a single way. If not you must leave it in blank. The ipct for each image will appear (i hope that) . The is being programing to:

- Contributor can set their own prices
-contributor can choose products and prints to sale ( not yet) , like t-shirts and more
-Contributor can made their own orders and ship directely to customer
-contributor can choose the image files and prices for stock
-Can set your own albuns (public or not), download your files to ( work like a storage service)

see for yourself in www.newlightagency.com .

Thanks in advance.


« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2013, 12:11 »
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what is your marketing plan?

« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2013, 12:33 »
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I only start this yesterday ;D , now i want to get the site functional. Like i said i was made this to sell my stock, but i only have my site and my blog, so i think that i can i make this to more people.

- I will have footage, images, vectors
- RF file sales with credits or money for single images. Subscritions plans to. Not like SS, more cheap (monthly) and more expensive per image. Contributors can set if they want or not subscriptions, can set the price for original extended licensed to. can sale prints, accept orders directely and process them or send to a lab. Products to.

Editiorial files will be promoted directely to newspapers agencies. In Portugal is missing this service. Everyone give for free.

Then promoted in ggogle and FB .

But what i want now is putting this to work. Contributors will have a base system that is compared to sell stock directelly, fair and just commissions.

The standart is: You (contributor) have your port to sale in agency galleries. There will be various commissions system. Is different for prints, special collections, subs or main stock. I am open to opinions to. This topic is just for that.

Please , dont critique me to try do something that even start, i am asking opinions just for that.

« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2013, 13:02 »
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So you are the owner.
-and entrepreneur.

Where are you from?

« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2013, 13:19 »
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So you are the owner.
-and entrepreneur.

Where are you from?

Portugal. Im photographer. entrepreneur to. I have a photography studio like many of you. I am doing this to expand my business, first only for me, but if i can and repeat, if i can do something good to all of us ... i do ! But i new in stock, heave many ideas, motivation and im serious person. If you help i will try this, why not? Im open to suggestions if i can program the site i will do it.

« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2013, 19:31 »
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Build something great and people will show up. Sorry if that is too vague of an answer, but we've all seen agencies come and go. The ones that are dedicated, study the market and create a great product stick around. The rest close up shop pretty quick.

Off the bat, it looks like a KTools store. That's not a deal breaker by any means (I have a KTools store too), but it does give me a little pause about the level of technical skill and dedication going into the site. Just my two cents. Good luck with your endeavor. It can be a lot of work to run your own site, but it can also be rewarding.

« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 09:56 »
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Build something great and people will show up. Sorry if that is too vague of an answer, but we've all seen agencies come and go. The ones that are dedicated, study the market and create a great product stick around. The rest close up shop pretty quick.

Off the bat, it looks like a KTools store. That's not a deal breaker by any means (I have a KTools store too), but it does give me a little pause about the level of technical skill and dedication going into the site. Just my two cents. Good luck with your endeavor. It can be a lot of work to run your own site, but it can also be rewarding.
Like i said now os for my port . Yes is a ktools site . this site is sasy and ready to go , perfect to one port . Contributors area is a low performer And complicated Today i send a mail to them to fix some issues In contributors rea and review system. I have time to do it and This templAte can be changed. Then i will do a chance to a powerful server when i complete This .

« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 11:21 »
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Looks like you are off to a good start for the development. I wish you good luck with your project. One small tip. Don't have as your first tab NEWS. Move it behind Promotion and may call it BLOG.
All General important pages should have a link in the footer (FAQ, Contact, About, ...) create a page just for the PRESS (press kit, press releases, ...) and place that link in the footer. Think about what type of payment you want to accept and how you want to pay the contributor. Different account view for buyers and contributors? How to upload? FTP? What type of model and property release management? Very important that you import system reads the meta data IPTC out of the image files. Most important is Title, Description, and Keywords. No category selection for contributor. Just uplaod and submit, but with the possibility of editing if necessary. A delete function for image. And a function that allows to cancel an account. But I am sure you know all this.

Good luck!

« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 12:43 »
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Looks like you are off to a good start for the development. I wish you good luck with your project. One small tip. Don't have as your first tab NEWS. Move it behind Promotion and may call it BLOG.
All General important pages should have a link in the footer (FAQ, Contact, About, ...) create a page just for the PRESS (press kit, press releases, ...) and place that link in the footer. Think about what type of payment you want to accept and how you want to pay the contributor. Different account view for buyers and contributors? How to upload? FTP? What type of model and property release management? Very important that you import system reads the meta data IPTC out of the image files. Most important is Title, Description, and Keywords. No category selection for contributor. Just uplaod and submit, but with the possibility of editing if necessary. A delete function for image. And a function that allows to cancel an account. But I am sure you know all this.

Good luck!

Thanks for reply. The upload is support with unlimited FTP . The site dont have place to upload releases. Contributors will have to create 2 albums in their page (non-public) and upload all the releases inside this album. then click in the uploaded images and set (released) . I check them inside the albums if i needed . System import iptc information but that was the problem i report...dont work yesterday and i ask to someone test the upload system to see if is just my files or all the files.

If people upload 100 images in a bach of news can set one title, one desciption and keywords to the bach...the 100 images will receive the same information. To catalog one by one just skip this in blank and the image appear with iptc information if it have.

Payments are processed by paypal only and always at the end of week or month . Is no need minimal sales, amounts or request payments . You sell you receive, 0,25 , 25 or 250, however simple as that ! you sell 100 in a week , we pay at the end of week, if you sell 0,25 per week you pay at the end of month.

Contributors can edit the images always and deleted them to when they want. The images are yours. You can even set private albums for weddings (per example) and sell prints direct to customer to. Commissions here are different because you get the event, is your work and you have to process the prints outside in one lab of your choice and pay them , so we retain only 10% for space in the site and you can receive in 48h to pay the prints. You can even set the price to the prints and files in private albuns. I have to see how paypal with process their commissions.

I am testing the pages and your right, i am trying to understand the changes and the management area yet. Try to upload one file and give me your feedback...you can put your watermark if you want.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 12:55 by brmonico »

« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2013, 09:23 »
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Hi all. My site is ready to start accepting images . I already established licenses and services. Is not complete yet, but one project like this one is never completed , there are some more to do. Is missing me set products and prints .

I set a service to promote in Facebook now. There are one gallery called Web Social .This is the one i want to promote now. Social image sharing is always out of law and out of licenses so i made this very cheap to allow consumers illustrate their pages and share images at an affordable price. I want to promote a Valentines Day banners . Something that a boy or girl can offer to the Facebook page of the loved one expressing their heart .These must be submit to this gallery at 851x315 px to avoid problems in auto crop made by site. You can, if you wish , submit the original file to main galleries after .

Apart that , everyone who want submit here is very welcome now . I have a small port and all like a portrait/wedding niche .... so..diversity is very desire . I need to decor the site with images to, so at least one buyer is there ;D ;D .

Thanks and feel free to contact me .

« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2013, 09:59 »
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Wow you are lucky normally new sites and sites owners with no marketing/business plans at all don't get such warm and nice comments here.
Well in this regard good luck from me too! ;)

« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2013, 12:02 »
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Wow you are lucky normally new sites and sites owners with no marketing/business plans at all don't get such warm and nice comments here.
Well in this regard good luck from me too! ;)

Well, i dont know exactly how things work here or in this business but i think this is like another current business. If you have a good product it will sell. I saw agencies in middle tier close doors and i think to my self,  Why? If they have clients and sell something ? Maybe there is many people living of that business , maybe they have mounted structures that cant support, maybe they have invested in expensive servers with thousands of GB without images to put there ... what is a marketing plan and good publicity ? I bought my studio 5 years ago, the old owner was tiered of loosing  money every month. I dont one in publicity and the studio still exists . Simple do a good work to customer and they will sell your product for you...this is my marketing plan. If people trust in me to upload files my site i will do everything to sell the images, i will not give it for free or be the most cheapest and pay assorted and magical commissions, reality is not like that. I have to pay taxes and give legal invoices to companies, pay servers space, commissions and manage the site, so there is not 90% commissions here or even 70% . What exists here is a free will to do something for me that fit others too. If contributors have sales here they will bring more contributors, and happy clients will come back . I will not promise you commissions that i cant afford in this moment just to get attention and spend money in addwords just to get contributors and curious clients.

I know that this" marketing plan"will take more time to get attention or something close to a real and middle agency but if this grow must grown with confidence and must grow with facts, not with prospection ...

  All of this is the reason i being here. I have a site and im proposing myself to do a certain job. To do this job i need some brave people to trust me supplying my agency. I cant promote a empty site, i cant make a call to a newspaper promoting my fresh images if editorial section is empty, i cant present a product that not exist and certainly i cant buy 5000 copyrights from RM agencies, so , i need some brave agents....

With that text i dont want people think i will accept all images i receive....no, i will not ! The review process not much different from others . Here i have a concept to follow.

Facebbok banners
well the stock world dont have to be only for designers or sites owners or press. With growing Facebook pages and users and milions of images watermarked being shared every day i think there is a real market there and free publicity to do.

If you give me 5 banners to valentine day , mothers day, fathers day , more.... banners that people can use to express them selfs with themes like hungry, happiness , love, sadness, esoteric , ..... good and affordable images . Then i promote this in my studio page , in agency page in my personal page , you promote in your page, your friends will see and others too .. if one buy , you attention from thousands .... We cannot complain about illegal sharing if we dont do anything to make it legal. 1 banner is a 1 gift to offer ... why not, if they copy this or still one image in other place ???? And any contributor is a marketing agent in their page too....

I dont have server space in server now so this allow many images , less space, big audience....

« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2013, 12:25 »
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Hi you are obviously a very nice guy and I really wish you luck and success. But I do think you do underestimate some things it's good to have your own selling site but to create a new agency that it's just another ball park IMHO.

« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2013, 15:26 »
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Best of luck to you. Your site look great. Just get rid of black colors around. I am glad to see your passion for doing something good. Keep your interest and efforts focused. There are many people waiting to join your venture. Just show them that you care which I think you did already. So, it is just waiting to roll now.

« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2013, 11:41 »
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Well the site is ready to go. Others changes and contents will be added with time. The site is being promoted in Facebook, Pinterest with watermark, Twitter with some followers and images are getting views. Now is needed more images. Like i said in other topic today this project is simple and humble, is not to face the giants, but is trustful and free to. If someone decide to join is very welcome and appreciated . You only need to upload with iptc and i do the rest. I leave here the social pages :

www.facebook.com/newlightagency
www.pinterest.com/newlightagency
www.twitter.com/newlightagency


Thanks to all , you can close the topic if you want.

« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2013, 04:58 »
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What kind of background except as a photographer do you have? Business Administration? Marketing? Accounting? What kind of support in these areas do you have?

I was just wondering if you are aware what you are doing and what that potentially means.

For example, as you are living in a EU country, you would need to do VAT taxation for EU member countries, depending where the buyer is living. Yeah, not only for your country but for 27 different countries in 27 different ways. Are you prepared to do that? I somehow doubt that because you are not even publishing your own tax or trade registration information as you would be legally required to do.

International tax legislation is a bitch and I would just advise you to be careful because in the end you will be liable financially.

« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2013, 14:11 »
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What kind of background except as a photographer do you have? Business Administration? Marketing? Accounting? What kind of support in these areas do you have?

I was just wondering if you are aware what you are doing and what that potentially means.

For example, as you are living in a EU country, you would need to do VAT taxation for EU member countries, depending where the buyer is living. Yeah, not only for your country but for 27 different countries in 27 different ways. Are you prepared to do that? I somehow doubt that because you are not even publishing your own tax or trade registration information as you would be legally required to do.

International tax legislation is a bitch and I would just advise you to be careful because in the end you will be liable financially.

Yes Michael i understand what you are saying . I run my business for 5 years more 4 years as freelancer, i have studied photography, i have knowledges of marketing and webmarketing and do import/export for 3 years , buy from Italy and Germany, Holland, spain , japan , china , malasya, etc.....i run another web business (nothing to do with image) i export to UK, EU, US, Brazil.....i know exactly the taxes rules and i know i have to do retention to contributors.... Resume, i already have and pay the structure i need . This is an upgrade...bring more cost if bring more work to finace department...I dont put that information yet because i need to know what form is need in PT for international contributors receive the retention. My department is already look for that, soon it will be post and my prices already have taxes included 23% and buyers receive a legal invoice according to EU and international laws.

  My information is on the site. The site name and finance address. Inotice is missing my phone. Only is missing my full name (i can put it ther) and tax number. Under web security rules i will not put my tax number and i am not forced to do it. Anyone with my name , address, and tax number online can make a false invoice to me. My paypal account is business veryfied so this is a trust for anyone. Buyers can always report a fraude and paypal work under EU rules. They already have all my docs....because i made more 10 000/year paypal transactions in all business.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2013, 14:23 by brmonico »

Dan

« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2013, 15:10 »
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     I'm  going  to  give  it  a  try.

« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2013, 18:29 »
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     I'm  going  to  give  it  a  try.

Thanks Dan. If you have the iptc information on your images you just upload them and click finish. You can check it one by one after if you like. Dont set categories and nothing like that, i do the rest.

  I dont promise you sales, i promise i will work to get sales. Thanks for the trust.

« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2013, 13:42 »
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Just to bring a new feedback.

- Now site is supporting ftp upload with dedicated accounts;
- Contributor agreement and tutorial is setup;
- Site i receiving first uploads , photos, vectors and video footage
- Site is very new with only 3 weeks online, including setup time and domain registration. I am registering 150 views a day. Im happy with it.

Opinions, good or bad ones, are welcome. Thanks.


 

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