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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2009, 07:02 »
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wow, that's quick feedback!  :o


I love the DOF in this shot:
Tu es! A quelle belle profondeur de champ!  ;D


dudebun

« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2009, 07:22 »
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wow, that's quick feedback!  :o

Yeah, sorry. I'll be better in the future.

« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2009, 07:49 »
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Oh I really like the "different" concept behind this site. It's good to know that there are at least one microstock site that has banned handshakes on white background :)

I just wish these rejection crazy sites would have FTP and that you could keyword afterwards if your images are accepted.

I think I'll give this one a go, I'll upload some of my weirdest microstock images to them plus some weird ones that I have never even dared to consider uploading to the regular microstock sites.

edit: wow they even have a queue number for uploaded photos!
edit2: does their logo have to look THAT crappy?
edit3: As a designer I have use for those free credits, but has anyone got any REAL money from this site?
« Last Edit: January 14, 2009, 09:04 by Perry »

« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2009, 09:08 »
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I just did a search there for "Ireland" and not a single image came up!

Database????

dudebun

« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2009, 10:30 »
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I just did a search there for "Ireland" and not a single image came up!

Database????

Looks like our system hasn't caught up to that section yet, as we're still cataloguing older photos. //edit: looks like you have to search in Irish  ;) . Search for Eire and you find Ireland photos.

Here's a lightbox in meantime.

http://photocase.com/en/collection.asp?l=100429

p.s. Perry: we payout often and the share is 60%. Lots of our photographers make money and just as important: have a good time too.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2009, 10:42 by dudebun »

« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2009, 13:45 »
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I just did a search there for "Ireland" and not a single image came up!

Database????
[. Search for Eire and you find Ireland photos.

I find that really strange. Surely Ireland would and should be first keyword choice.
I doubt very much if buyers in far flung places with be at all familiar with " Eire"
I do sometimes use it but only as a secondary choice.

dudebun

« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2009, 14:28 »
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I just did a search there for "Ireland" and not a single image came up!

Database????
[. Search for Eire and you find Ireland photos.

I find that really strange. Surely Ireland would and should be first keyword choice.
I doubt very much if buyers in far flung places with be at all familiar with " Eire"
I do sometimes use it but only as a secondary choice.

I've since fixed it so Ireland or Eire will return the same results. To be honest, I would never have thought of using Eire as a search term in a million years.  You do have to remember that this was a German only site for 7 years, and even though we've had it professionally translated just recently, even pros aren't perfect. We're in the process of fine tuning everything, so this kind of discovery is helpful.

« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2009, 14:38 »
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I just did a search there for "Ireland" and not a single image came up!

Database????
[. Search for Eire and you find Ireland photos.

I find that really strange. Surely Ireland would and should be first keyword choice.
I doubt very much if buyers in far flung places with be at all familiar with " Eire"
I do sometimes use it but only as a secondary choice.

I've since fixed it so Ireland or Eire will return the same results. To be honest, I would never have thought of using Eire as a search term in a million years.  You do have to remember that this was a German only site for 7 years, and even though we've had it professionally translated just recently, even pros aren't perfect. We're in the process of fine tuning everything, so this kind of discovery is helpful.

I do understand now and thanks for replying.
Wish you the best.

« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2009, 14:51 »
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Dudebun,

Have you any comment on the earlier post about how your reviewers select images? (See reply number 11).

Also, How long has your site been in Beta?

« Last Edit: January 14, 2009, 14:53 by Clivia »

dudebun

« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2009, 16:45 »
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Dudebun,

Have you any comment on the earlier post about how your reviewers select images? (See reply number 11).

Also, How long has your site been in Beta?



I do have a comment about that earlier post. I don't know who that was or is, and I sent a private message asking the poster to reintroduce themselves, but got no response. We receive thousands of photos a day which go into a main queue. Photos are examined by our photo editing staff. Images that are deemed "approvable" are moved into the next and final queue and reviewed a second time by a smaller review team. Ideally every uploaded photo gets 10 pairs of eyes on it before a decision is made, but the average is slightly less. Do note our criteria are different from other stock sites. The style and feel are different. What gets accepted elsewhere may not at Photocase.

We've been in Beta since the beginning, 2001. For us it simply means that certain things are always being upgraded/updated/fine tuned. Today for example we installed a new "100% sample" viewer without any fanfare.

« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2009, 19:11 »
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Searching the database on the German site for "Lebensmittel", then I receive ~ 2247 images. When searching on the English site for "food", then I receive ~ 105 images.

France site "nourriture" = 189 images
Spanish site "alimento" = 1344 images

Do you need to keyword in multiple languages? If the site is correctly translating all keyword, then these search term should have a similar result. At least not that big of a difference.

« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2009, 04:06 »
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Dudebun,
Thanks for your reply. That made things clearer.

dudebun

« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2009, 04:15 »
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Searching the database on the German site for "Lebensmittel", then I receive ~ 2247 images. When searching on the English site for "food", then I receive ~ 105 images.

France site "nourriture" = 189 images
Spanish site "alimento" = 1344 images

Do you need to keyword in multiple languages? If the site is correctly translating all keyword, then these search term should have a similar result. At least not that big of a difference.
No you don't have to keyword in multiple languages, you just have to be thorough in the finalization process. Many aren't. This particular problem is a combination of a too literal translation translation ("food stuffs" returns more than 500 resuts), as well as having user supplied keywords (see below).

@ Clivia: I guess Beta could apply to our new keyword catalogue too, ;)
The problem we face is: users enter free text as keywords, if the system doesn't know the words it asks for clarification. if the user chooses not to clarify then the word has to be translated by the bureau and then manually added later. So, the system works if you work it. We're working on a fix for this. The keyword catalogue is getting better and better, and finding problems like this helps. Thanks,

« Last Edit: January 15, 2009, 05:32 by dudebun »

« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2009, 16:28 »
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I thought give it a try so I send them 15 pictures  only 2 got accepted.
Don't know why the rest got rejected .......
My findings on the site I like the style and kind of pictures they have you now artistic way but some are worse very worse.
blown highlights,under expo,over expo,very tight crob,purple fringing .
Normaly I through them in my recycle bin.
See what happens in the future...........................

« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2009, 19:03 »
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site seems a bit "template" styled and uninspiring (and I really dont like the font), but then many sites including some very popular ones do to me.

I dont have a need to buy images but if I was a customer having 'beta' on any webpage I come across, says to me new and may not be around long. I wouldn't be greatly to keen to hand over credit card details or at least leave many credits there.  I think I'd only really be looking for freebies. 

you can 'browse all' - brings up 6463 pages of 21 images each so 135723 total images.  so long way to go.

a site this small, with very cheap prices and giving away so many images has each image reviewed by what 7-10 people? maybe I'm wrong but I'm sorry I dont believe it and to come here and make that comment is making alarm bells ring to me (like I said maybe I'm wrong).  I cant see how any site could work financially having that many people review unless they all do it for free.

by the time that I consider that very few small sites are worth the effort, this one has very cheap pricing with way too many freebies, and some dubious claims.  I'll pass...

Xalanx

« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2009, 19:35 »
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every uploaded photo gets 10 pairs of eyes on it before a decision is made, but the average is slightly less.


Puhleeezzz, cut the bulls**t will you!!!

More like you've got some spaced out teenager with double vision hitting the delete button every few seconds because you can't afford to pay for any more storage space.

http://www.photocase.com/en/collection.asp?m=detail&i=133787 is a prime example of the crap floating around the place.



LMAO....... that is SO true! Iriz you just made my day :D:D:D

dudebun

« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2009, 08:09 »
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wow, it's getting exciting in here.

I guess I'll start on Iriz: I'm a little weirded out here, I  can't quite get why you're getting so worked up about this. The fact is, we publish a particular style of photos that we think is lacking in the stock world. If you don't like our style or don't get it, then that's totally fine with me. But what's totally offside is personally insulting me and the staff and the photographers at Photocase. Show some respect.

@ clearview: i should have been more clear. Every photo isn't checked by every reviewer. We have 10 reviewers, and "ideally" they all see every photo, but in practice that doesn't happen due to any number of circumstances.  And i take your comment "a long way to go" means that we are small-fry because we don't have a catalogue of millions. We reject more than 90% of the photos that are uploaded because we aren't willing to compromise our catalogue simply to be able to say we've got more photos than the other guy.

@Xalanx: I'm a little weirded out by you too, and why you're getting such a kick out of such caustic remarks.

in general: We're a niche site with a specific style and vision that we're proud of. Saleability isn't priority one, so breaking us down that way doesn't make sense. And getting all fired up over the style of the catalogue is also silly. If you don't like it or don't get it, that's ok. People have different taste.

« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2009, 08:33 »
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http://www.photocase.com/en/collection.asp?m=detail&i=133787 is a prime example of the crap floating around the place.


I like them. They have their own style. Well, I'm not the one to judge whether they are sell-able or not. Also I likely don't have the knowledge to fully judge them from professional perspective. From purely personal perspective I like them and I certainly do not consider them 'prime crap'.

RT


« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2009, 13:29 »
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Saleability isn't priority one

Well that's an interesting strategy!


dudebun

« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2009, 13:54 »
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@ Iriz: you're already worked up.
@RT: correct.

@ everyone:

Do not come to Photocase.com, you will only waste your time and ours.


« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2009, 14:20 »
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@ everyone:

Do not come to Photocase.com, you will only waste your time and ours.



I think we already worked that out!

Iriz

    This user is banned.
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2009, 14:20 »
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Do not come to Photocase.com, you will only waste your time and ours.

Absolutely correct, that's about the most honest thing you've come out with yet!

Took you long enough  ::)

« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2009, 11:11 »
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Been there done .........
They clame to be different than other stock Yes they are.       NOT
In my case the most  stocky picture  I have TREE IN A MEADOW  and SUMMER GLOW they accepted and the most artistic pictures got rejected ..........HMMM makes you wonder .....................
Never the less I like the site (some pictures are realy great)       Still not every picture I like or understand................. still don't understand them yet...................maybe in the future I think I'm getting old...........................And have a different look at ART and artistic photography

RT


« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2009, 12:32 »
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@ Iriz: you're already worked up.
@RT: correct.

@ everyone:

Do not come to Photocase.com, you will only waste your time and ours.



So that's Priority One - Don't come here.

Thanks for clearing that up, it appears the buyers already got the message but it was good of you to come here and explain it also applies to contributors.

« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2009, 13:48 »
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Do not come to Photocase.com, you will only waste your time and ours.

Thanks for being clear.


 

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