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dudebun

« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2009, 16:06 »
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In no way was my last comment meant to be malicious. I came here with the intention of answering any questions about Photocase, unintentionally ruffled a few feathers, and in the end came to the conclusion that the style of stock photography offered by photographers who identify as "microstockers," isn't a good fit for Photocase.

I posted this on a Photocase forum within a similar kind of Photocase vs Microstock thread, and maybe it's worth reading for all of you:

 "...acceptance criteria at Photocase are no different from any other stock catalogue, (composition; style; theme; motif; exposure; minimum resolution; saleability; free from excessive noise, editing and/or artifacting; etc ) we just weigh them differently here. [A user] stated earlier that phone photos generally sell well. Some other sites may say "phone photos sell, accept more phone photos," [to their reviewers] and may even make it known to their users that they should upload more phone photos. At Photocase we wouldn't do something like that, but rather would continue to accept phone photos that are, in the eyes of our reviewers, remarkable. This is what users from a microstock background have to understand about Photocase: we're not in a race to have the most, we're only concerned with accepting good-quality, unique, stylish photos. That's our vision."


« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2009, 16:39 »
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Maybe some don't like the style of Photocase - for me it is a good opportunity to shoot and offer something different as the "normal" clean pictures which are normally accepted at the BIG 6. I send my pics to the Big 6 and 123, but Photocase with only 80 Pics online is a steady no. 3 to 4, with similar sales as Fotolia.

After the recent rising of sale prices in December the average sale price is 3 US$ and they are selling each pic 3 times a year - would be nice if the other sites can offer the same rate.

Xalanx

« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2009, 09:56 »
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ulmu, how ironically - you just registered yesterday and your only post in a thread is the one above. Coincidence? I think not.
I am supremely confident that this is not the most interesting thread on MSG. So why don't you take your dudebrother and go tell someone else how much you're making out of the site you're workin' for? (photocase be that). I am very confident again that noone believes your success story with photocase.

« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2009, 10:35 »
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I have no idea if the new posters that have posted in this thread work for photocase or not.  It would be a shame to put them off if they are genuine, even if that seems unlikely.  It would be nice to know if any of the people who have been here longer make any money with photocase though.

« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2009, 12:59 »
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Thanks Danicek - wise words! I'm really surprised about the tone in this forum - it is always nice to talk with open minded persons. The raised issues are so stupid that I prefer to say nothing against - it's definitely not worth it!


WarrenPrice

« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2009, 13:56 »
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Thanks Danicek - wise words! I'm really surprised about the tone in this forum - it is always nice to talk with open minded persons. The raised issues are so stupid that I prefer to say nothing against - it's definitely not worth it!



I don't understand the anger in these posts.  Is there something personal here? 

« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2009, 17:54 »
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Thanks Danicek - wise words! I'm really surprised about the tone in this forum - it is always nice to talk with open minded persons.

I feel that the main feeling is just curiosity and amazement. Going thru the site (I did) we are amazed at the subpar quality of some shots, like on-cam flash hard shadow, shallow DOF and so on. One could argue this kind of shots has a special artistic value and there is a market for it, so no prejudice at all.

Just sheer curiosity. Do this kind of shots actually sell in a niche market, or is it more a fun photoshare/rating site? Not everybody here is a standard stock shooter but many of us have special shots too we don't even bother to upload to traditional stock because we know they won't sell there. But they could try with an alternative site. Of course, most of us are concentrated on sales, even for "fun" shots. It would be helpful if you could give an idea of actual sales since I couldn't find that info on the site.

RT


« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2009, 18:12 »
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dudebun

Personally you haven't ruffled my feathers but I can see why you think you may have upset some.

For what its worth I think you may have come here thinking this is just a forum for some wannabe microstockers who dream of the lights and glamour of the big stock world, many here ( 2 others that I know of who have answered this thread ) have been and are successful on sites like Getty, Corbis, Alamy etc and submit to microstock sites as another revenue source, so the 'ten sets of eyes reviewing team' and 'niche style' just ain't gonna wash because we know the industry and can spot a bit of corporate BS a mile of.

Your comment "Do not come to Photocase.com, you will only waste your time and ours" is I'm sorry to say not what I would expect of a representative from a stock site, and as I mentioned earlier saying that saleability is not priority one is IMO quite possibly the worst thing you could say, what would possess anybody to upload to a stock agency that isn't concerned with selling their work.

I had a look at your site and I don't see anything that would encourage me to upload there, but good luck for the future.

dudebun

« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2009, 06:51 »
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Warren: you may be onto something there.

RT: I didn't come here with any notions of anything. People were asking about Photocase so I answered. We have 10 reviewers at Photocase, i said ideally they all see the photos but in practice that doesn't happen, and averages less. Not a lie. And I don't see why saying we fill a niche qualifies as corporate BS. We sell a particular thing to particular customers where we perceive there to be a lack. Is a lone flower shop amongst fast-food and magazine stands in a train station corporate BS too? 

re: the don't come to Photocase comment, I suppose I could have been more flowery about it, but the fact remains that the majority of the users on this forum have expectations, as far as photo-approvals go, from years of working with other websites. Yes, we accept and sell photos, but not the way the large ones do. As for the saleability comment, I thought I cleared that up with my example about telephone photos, but I guess not, so here's the short version: saleability is not weighted as heavily in our approval process. Of course we love to sell photos, but we want to sell photos that are exciting and different. Sales come as a result of our selection. People go to their favorite restaurant because they like the food. People come to Photocase because of the photos. If you don't like sushi, I'm not going to invite you to my favorite restaurant. What's the point you'll just sit there turning up your nose the whole time.

As for your final comment, thank you for checking us out, absolutely no hard feelings and I wish you luck too.

FlemishDreams:
This is a very interesting point and illustrates the expectations comment I made above: you say that "on-cam flash hard shadow, shallow DOF and so on," is "sub par." I want to strongly state here that by no means do we think any of these qualities are sub-par. A great photo is a great photo, even if it's noisy or has razor-thin dof, or lens flare (real lens flare not the photoshop abomination) or vignetting or a hard-shadow or what have you. I'm trying really hard not to use the "forest for the trees" idiom. But there it is. We would never reject a stunning photo simply because of some vignetting or mild noise.

We instituted a new pricing model in December so we're tracking the effects of the price increase. Sales are exceeding projections. I will say our top earners have made more than 200 this month already.

« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2009, 09:52 »
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Too many of the microstock sites have the same images on sale, don't lots of people here complain about that?, so I think it is good to see a site doing something different.  Perhaps if I can get hold of a decent medium format film scanner, I will try them with my pinhole photos.

« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2009, 12:56 »
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Ok, we are 1 member less now and a few posts shorter.

One member was banned for excessively rude and unnecessary comments and private messages.

Sorry I didn't see this thread earlier.

« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2009, 11:47 »
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Photocase seems to be out of their beta phase, that happened today or yesterday.

It's a very interesting site, with a decent RPI (somewhere between stockxpert and dreamstime RPIs for me)

The "problem" is that they reject almost everything and give images also against free credits (that means the photographer gets zero). Still a good RPI and no categories or stuff is needed before an image is accepted (I wish other sites had that too...)

I just wish they had FTP so I could dump my whole portfolio there, now I have just picked some of my most photocase-looking pics that I have sent. That is propably their strategy: they don't want their review department to be flooded with typical micro stuff.

They really want the stuff that looks interesting and would be rejected on other sites for noise, composition, subject matter or over-filtering :)

As a bonus for those that do both photography and graphic design is that you get free credits for every accepted image, those credits can be used for purchasing images for projects.

« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2009, 13:43 »
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Love the place.
With only a few images accepted got more income than DT,StockXpert,Istock etc

WarrenPrice

« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2009, 15:16 »
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Love the place.
With only a few images accepted got more income than DT,StockXpert,Istock etc

That got my attention.  I am browsing the site in a separate window.  Haven't registered yet so may not be seeing everything.  I'm curious about their place in the Micro world/Macro world.  Do they accept images that are already online at microsites?

ed:  also noticed that they publish info on buyers of your photographs.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2009, 15:21 by WarrenPrice »

« Reply #64 on: October 29, 2009, 16:28 »
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I tried uploading a few and I have a 100% rejection rate so far.  I might try again one day when I am really bored but there is too much to do with all the sites that accept most of my images.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2009, 16:39 »
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I can't find a link to FTP or any other way to upload more than one image at the time.  Where am I missing this?

« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2009, 16:46 »
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As far as I know there is no FTP sorry....
Send in some unusual non stock like images, strange landscapes, strange poses, colors etc...
Yes you get many rejection but once accepted almost every image gonna get at least a sale and many many views.
It's allowed to send in images your already selling trough other stock sites.

Good luck

 

« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2009, 19:33 »
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My first time reading this thread and quite an interesting progresion of thought. Im not sure if my port would be anything they'd be interested in, but at least its nice to see that some are having some level of success there from a site that is in many respects unique in its approach.

« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2009, 01:34 »
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Very unique, indeed. Look at this one. When I type English keywords (try "business"), I get strange and irrelevant results. I can't imagine anything selling there, so the posters that had sales, could you please put up a link to the sold image? Just curious...
« Last Edit: October 30, 2009, 01:40 by FD-amateur »

WarrenPrice

« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2009, 12:55 »
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Is there an "acceptance procedure" here?  I don't know how many images to upload or if I should start just dumping my portfolio there???

I don't know how well it will/would sell but there is some really wierd (unusual) stuff here ... almost as weird as me.   :P

« Reply #70 on: October 31, 2009, 13:37 »
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Is there an "acceptance procedure" here?  I don't know how many images to upload or if I should start just dumping my portfolio there???

I don't know how well it will/would sell but there is some really wierd (unusual) stuff here ... almost as weird as me.   :P

Just in small batches would in my experience work best.
Not to much of the same subject.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #71 on: November 02, 2009, 11:34 »
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Thanks,
Just went thru the finalization of my first upload.  It is a bit cumbersom.  But, I see a lot a highly saturated landscapes.  I may have found a home. :P

« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2009, 11:59 »
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I like the website and the photos, very artistic.  :) Don't know how well I would do on a German site but do have some bizarre nature photos I could try to upload. Who knows.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #73 on: November 04, 2009, 17:56 »
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Ooooops... spoke too soon.  They are rejecting 3 outta 4.   :'(

« Reply #74 on: November 04, 2009, 19:10 »
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it's very normal rejection 29 out of 30 or even more....


 

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