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« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2013, 17:57 »
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RAW files?
Selling raw files? What would be the point in that?
Simple Example, I am a designer, and I make a project, Use a photo of a girl, I want to change the color, of her hair. The Photo I downloaded az JPG is with blond hair, but if I have a raw file with same girl and there she is with brown hair (darker hair), I can use this and make Black hair., I need this model exactly, not to look for other models with black hair.
if You onece proccess the photo (blond hair JPG), it is almost imposible to reverse. and make Black hair.
in DNG You may reverse to the very begining.
This i s just an example.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2013, 18:15 by jotovs »


« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2013, 17:59 »
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at this moment 1 credit is 0.8 EURO cent,
Not being very familiar with euro currency, does '0.8 EURO cent' mean 80 cents (european)? or 0.8 of a cent (european)?
May I help?
1 Euro are 100 EuroCents
so 0.8 Eurocents is 0.008 Euro

The price for 1 Raw is 225*0.008 EuroCent=1.8 Euro
 :'(

I was in a hury, and make mistake, then correct the price see it on the site
« Last Edit: February 22, 2013, 18:04 by jotovs »

« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2013, 18:09 »
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"Bulgaria"

see ya!

raw files.....pffsttt

« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2013, 18:25 »
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I think you are 5 years late and the raw file idea is not enough edge to make it interesting for buyers and certainly photographers will be reluctant.

« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2013, 18:26 »
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at this moment 1 credit is 0.8 EURO cent,
Not being very familiar with euro currency, does '0.8 EURO cent' mean 80 cents (european)? or 0.8 of a cent (european)?
May I help?
1 Euro are 100 EuroCents
so 0.8 Eurocents is 0.008 Euro

The price for 1 Raw is 225*0.008 EuroCent=1.8 Euro
 :'(

I was in a hury, and make mistake, then correct the price see it on the site

DING*DING*DING*   Red flags a flailin'....

dbvirago

« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2013, 18:30 »
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So, is it 1.8 Euro or 180 Euro?

« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2013, 18:35 »
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So, is it 1.8 Euro or 180 Euro?
180, I think noodle is joking with me, beacuse I can not edit, in "Quated" area, and there remains a record

ShadySue

« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2013, 18:36 »
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RAW files?
Selling raw files? What would be the point in that?
Simple Example, I am a designer, and I make a project, Use a photo of a girl, I want to change the color, of her hair. The Photo I downloaded az JPG is with blond hair, but if I have a raw file with same girl and there she is with brown hair (darker hair), I can use this and make Black hair., I need this model exactly, not to look for other models with black hair.
if You onece proccess the photo (blond hair JPG), it is almost imposible to reverse. and make Black hair.
in DNG You may reverse to the very begining.
This i s just an example.
Why wouldn't you make a copy tif of the jpg and colour the hair black, and you still have the original blonde jpg as a separate file? I sent my sister several jpgs from one photo showing what her hair would look like in several different colours, and still had the original jpg untouched.

« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2013, 18:44 »
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RAW files?
Selling raw files? What would be the point in that?
Simple Example, I am a designer, and I make a project, Use a photo of a girl, I want to change the color, of her hair. The Photo I downloaded az JPG is with blond hair, but if I have a raw file with same girl and there she is with brown hair (darker hair), I can use this and make Black hair., I need this model exactly, not to look for other models with black hair.
if You onece proccess the photo (blond hair JPG), it is almost imposible to reverse. and make Black hair.
in DNG You may reverse to the very begining.
This i s just an example.
Why wouldn't you make a copy tif of the jpg and colour the hair black, and you still have the original blonde jpg as a separate file? I sent my sister several jpgs from one photo showing what her hair would look like in several different colours, and still had the original jpg untouched.
Probably I can not explain it well in English because I'm from Bulgaria, but what I mean is that for light or very light blonde hair can not do black. I have more than 10 years experience working with such images and believe me the already processed image you can not go back and do something else with it. You can use JPG az it is, or just make some samall color corrections.

« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2013, 18:45 »
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jotovs
as a designer....
would you rather buy a raw for 180 e
or a jpg for ,80 cents... or cheaper elsewhere
When photoshop can really work wonders with jpgs?
I have not changed hair colour, but I have changed the colour of the clothes of my pesky elves.

I think there are 3 problems in the whole concept.
1..Photographers are reluctant to share their raws, if they have any.
2..Customers dont need them.
3.. The whole stock business evolves towards faster, more, cheaper, collections, and easy to use, and in that way RAW is counterproductive.

« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2013, 19:00 »
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At least selling raw files is a different idea.  There's an obvious flaw though.  You don't have buyers, people might try it if they were going to make some money but there's no incentive to upload.

I know its impossible to get buyers with no content and that's what's hindered many sites in recent years.  The solution is to find out if there is really a big demand for raw files.  Find some investors, get a load of cash and pay us to upload.  I can't see any other way this would work as people are wary of new sites and really don't like uploading their raw files.

EmberMike

« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2013, 20:32 »
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Good luck to you, jotovs. You're fighting an uphill battle here trying to find any interested contributors.

Just to give you some idea of what you're up against, one of the most well-known people in the business (Bruce Livingstone) is launching a new company and even he is getting some resistance here. StockFresh was started a few years ago by some guys who also had previous experience in the business, and despite having a large library, buyers, and they are earning a bit for contributors, they still face constant criticism and resistance. That's what you can expect if people even already know who you are.

In your position, being an unknown person with seemingly little or no experience in the business, a site that frankly looks a bit amateurish (you'd do well to invest in a new logo), and nothing interesting to being in contributors, I think you're already done unless you drastically change things.

Your pricing needs work. To compare to StockFresh, they sell vectors for $10 and I keep half. Why would I come to you and have my work sell for $5?

Edit: Forgot to mention, you should just rename the whole thing right now. You already don't sell just photos, why call the site RawStockPhoto? Existing stock companies used "photo" in the name because that's how they started out, selling photos. I get that it's a tie in to the RAW offering, but it's not a good name for a media company that deals in much more than photos, and certainly more than RAW photos.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2013, 20:37 by EmberMike »

« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2013, 01:46 »
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« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2013, 01:50 »
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Poncke

« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2013, 03:54 »
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RawStockBank

« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2013, 04:20 »
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Sites like Alamy  prefer photos to be untouched for the same reason you are advocating selling RAW. There is little difference to a designer between an unedited photo as a jpeg or a RAW file. but as a seller I would be more willing to sell an unedited  photo as a jpeg file. I would never sell a RAW file.

« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2013, 09:43 »
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Terms and conditions:
The site can change the agreement in any time without announcement and new terms are implicitly accept by a single access to the site. It's a joke. This means that if everyone access the site simply to view the earning and the terms are changed only for this access you accept the changes. I think that what this mean is easily understandable... Do you really want that everyday of my life I go to check your terms and conditions?

Part 17 of terms and conditions.
After the termination:
(b) all Products uploaded by Seller shall be removed from the Website; provided, however, that RawStockPhoto may continue to use the Product for internal archival and reference purposes;
Ypes! shall be removed from website = does mean nothing -- All products shall be removed within 10 days or 15 days i.e. And second part is the worst, the use for your internal archive? So you want keep the full resolution of the files for these pourposes. You really think that someone gift to the website a raw file under these conditions?
I'm sorry but I would never accept such conditions.

EmberMike

« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2013, 09:46 »
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Your pricing needs work. To compare to StockFresh, they sell vectors for $10 and I keep half. Why would I come to you and have my work sell for $5?
You sell vectors at Shutterstock for 38 cents don't you?

Under subscriptions. This isn't a subscription site.

« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2013, 11:25 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 15:29 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2013, 11:34 »
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Your pricing needs work. To compare to StockFresh, they sell vectors for $10 and I keep half. Why would I come to you and have my work sell for $5?
You sell vectors at Shutterstock for 38 cents don't you?

Under subscriptions. This isn't a subscription site.
Subscriptions are just cheaper images nothing else.  They look the same as regular sales, they have the same license, they are just cheaper.  My guess is that if you lowered all the regular sale sites to the same prices as the subscription sites you would get the same volume of sales.  Maybe if RawStockPhoto sold full sized images at .80 you would be ok with it since the volume would be very high?

I don't think that this would be the case. People buy a lot more when they have a subscription, since they want to download the max amount of images possible. For instance my Girlfriend had a subscription for a few months and really tried to download images each day.

« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2013, 11:36 »
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PLOOONK

Tror

« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2013, 12:07 »
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"Bulgaria"

see ya!

raw files.....pffsttt

Whats wrong with Bulgaria? Where are you from? Don`t you guys notice that 90% of the stuff you use (cloth, phones, computers,cars,...)  comes from some "lousy third world countries with low english" like this?  :o

« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2013, 12:07 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 15:29 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2013, 12:10 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 15:28 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2013, 12:23 »
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everytime a new site is here... it seems always got insulted..if i am the owner i will feel so hurted ha.

anyway, just an advise to new site owner who want to start a new site.. go and talk to those top contributor... there is no point if a site can't get them to join, if they join..u don't have to do much..and all guys will try to follow..



 

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