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ShadySue

« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2013, 12:27 »
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RAW files?
Selling raw files? What would be the point in that?
Simple Example, I am a designer, and I make a project, Use a photo of a girl, I want to change the color, of her hair. The Photo I downloaded az JPG is with blond hair, but if I have a raw file with same girl and there she is with brown hair (darker hair), I can use this and make Black hair., I need this model exactly, not to look for other models with black hair.
if You onece proccess the photo (blond hair JPG), it is almost imposible to reverse. and make Black hair.
in DNG You may reverse to the very begining.
This i s just an example.
Why wouldn't you make a copy tif of the jpg and colour the hair black, and you still have the original blonde jpg as a separate file? I sent my sister several jpgs from one photo showing what her hair would look like in several different colours, and still had the original jpg untouched.
Probably I can not explain it well in English because I'm from Bulgaria, but what I mean is that for light or very light blonde hair can not do black. I have more than 10 years experience working with such images and believe me the already processed image you can not go back and do something else with it. You can use JPG az it is, or just make some samall color corrections.
I have no idea what software you are using that can change hair colour only in RAW. In fact, in my camera's RAW program and ACR, changing hair colour can't be done in the actual RAW software, (unless I'm missing something, I can only lighten or darken locally) but it can be done with a jpg, tif, psd, whatever in Photoshop.


SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2013, 13:41 »
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I wouldn't sell my RAW files. I'm sure others have said the same. not to mention a bazillion red flags on this one.

« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2013, 15:07 »
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"Bulgaria"

see ya!

raw files.....pffsttt

Whats wrong with Bulgaria? Where are you from? Don`t you guys notice that 90% of the stuff you use (cloth, phones, computers,cars,...)  comes from some "lousy third world countries with low english" like this?  :o

I know that and probably everyone here knowes that also.

but the reason i said what i said is because he wants raw files and since he is in Bulgaria what recorse do i have against him when he dissapears with my files and or money? thats why.

and for the record i love Bulgaria, its on tmy bucket list of places to visit. but that dosent mean i trust a stranger opening a new site wanting my "RAW" files no less!!!!

Tror

« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2013, 15:13 »
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"Bulgaria"

see ya!

raw files.....pffsttt

Whats wrong with Bulgaria? Where are you from? Don`t you guys notice that 90% of the stuff you use (cloth, phones, computers,cars,...)  comes from some "lousy third world countries with low english" like this?  :o

I know that and probably everyone here knowes that also.

but the reason i said what i said is because he wants raw files and since he is in Bulgaria what recorse do i have against him when he dissapears with my files and or money? thats why.


So, everyone who is from Bulgaria and wants to start is business is automatically a fraud? To be honest, I have worse experiences with US companies (e.g. Getty or Paypal).

« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2013, 15:22 »
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"Bulgaria"

see ya!

raw files.....pffsttt

Whats wrong with Bulgaria? Where are you from? Don`t you guys notice that 90% of the stuff you use (cloth, phones, computers,cars,...)  comes from some "lousy third world countries with low english" like this?  :o

I know that and probably everyone here knowes that also.

but the reason i said what i said is because he wants raw files and since he is in Bulgaria what recorse do i have against him when he dissapears with my files and or money? thats why.


So, everyone who is from Bulgaria and wants to start is business is automatically a fraud? To be honest, I have worse experiences with US companies (e.g. Getty or Paypal).

So, everyone who is from Bulgaria and wants to start is business is automatically "NOT" fraud?

Could be just me but i will pass on this.

and you like me have the option to do the same with getty and or paypal!

P.S. if the co. is where i am, then ican come after them using the laws of the condry we are in. and if that dont work i can pay them a visit:)
« Last Edit: February 23, 2013, 15:25 by ouchie »

« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2013, 17:56 »
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Everyone has the right to their own choices, we offer you to upload Raw files, but you have the right Not to upload this is your choice. There are alternative, and the risk of repeate myself again I will say that the RAW format can be saved as DNG. Without Embading, the Original Raw Data.
This Format Allows more flexibility in post processing.
Raw is for you DNG is for us.

Exit the shell look from another angle. We know that photographers are not willing to upload their RAWs, but we try to make the site which would have such content.

see more about DNG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Negative

About Bulgaria, what to say  I wish you to have the opportunity to visit our country.
We have "High blue mountains, sky like silk" as ever sang one of our songs

EmberMike

« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2013, 18:09 »
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Subscriptions are just cheaper images nothing else.  They look the same as regular sales, they have the same license, they are just cheaper...

Totally not the same thing, at all. Subscriptions are built around the premise of making additional sales that often don't get used. It's volume plus overflow. If you have a subscription, you'll download images for comps, just to test them out, to have some similars on hand to try, etc. People don't pay for comp images in a credit system.

...Maybe if RawStockPhoto sold full sized images at .80 you would be ok with it since the volume would be very high?

What makes you think the volume would be very high? The company with the lowest price doesn't always win. It's about a lot more than that.

« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2013, 19:25 »
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RAW files?
Selling raw files? What would be the point in that?
if You onece proccess the photo (blond hair JPG), it is almost imposible to reverse. and make Black hair.

You clearly have no idea about how to use photoshop.

« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2013, 05:48 »
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...Exit the shell look from another angle. We know that photographers are not willing to upload their RAWs, but we try to make the site which would have such content.
You know it wont work but you're doing it anyway?  Most people don't want to upload RAW files, so the only way to make it work would be if there was a huge demand from buyers and they were willing to pay a lot more than they do for jpegs.  I don't see the huge demand, as all the other sites would offer raw files if their buyers were demanding it.  I get very few requests from DT and I've never responded to one, as they aren't willing to pay extra.

You need to exit the shell and look from another angle, as you're not seeing reality at the moment.  The facts are quite clear, this wont work.  It's nice to have an idea that's a bit different but this isn't practical.  New sites need to come up with ideas that haven't already been put on the scrap heap.  That isn't easy, so they think up solutions to problems that don't exist or wont work in the real world.

At least this is a much better idea than the site that only wanted to sell black and white images :)

« Reply #59 on: February 26, 2013, 13:09 »
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RAW files in the digital world are the equivalent to negatives in the old film world. I'm sure you know this as the "DNG" you refer to actually stands for "digital negative". Most experienced photographers will only part with good "negatives" for an ultra-premium price. I'm afraid you are facing a very steep uphill battle with this idea, unfortunately. Your ambition is honorable, however, at this early stage in the game, you may want to redirect that ambition to a modified idea based on the input you've received here. It's not to late to step back and rethink your business plan.  ;)


 

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