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Title: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: somethingpretentious on May 03, 2012, 00:44
For 330$ pr year you can download 50 full resolution images pr week on iSignstock. Thats 2600 images for 330$ or 12.69 cent pr image which woukd leave the contributor with 3.8 cent after iSignstock has taken their 70% share...Well, we know that almost no buyers use the entire download quota, but this sure smells like a rotten deal for photographers.

Anyone care to share their RPD on iSignStock?
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: luissantos84 on May 03, 2012, 08:53
For 330$ pr year you can download 50 full resolution images pr week on iSignstock. Thats 2600 images for 330$ or 12.69 cent pr image which woukd leave the contributor with 3.8 cent after iSignstock has taken their 70% share...Well, we know that almost no buyers use the entire download quota, but this sure smells like a rotten deal for photographers.

Anyone care to share their RPD on iSignStock?

they don´t give us that information, only totals
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: m@m on May 03, 2012, 09:11
...and the totals really, really SUCK!!!...I've emailed Johnnie to terminate my account but have not heard back from them yet. I hope this does not turn into an issue. ::)

Talk about a rotten deal!...I've not seen any worst!
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: tab62 on May 03, 2012, 09:54
wow! I will take down my portfolio today...
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: somethingpretentious on May 04, 2012, 05:34
For 330$ pr year you can download 50 full resolution images pr week on iSignstock. Thats 2600 images for 330$ or 12.69 cent pr image which woukd leave the contributor with 3.8 cent after iSignstock has taken their 70% share...Well, we know that almost no buyers use the entire download quota, but this sure smells like a rotten deal for photographers.

Anyone care to share their RPD on iSignStock?

they don´t give us that information, only totals

Just to be clear, this means that they don't give information about how many and which of your photos have downloaded?? Only a dollar amount at the end of the month?
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: THP Creative on May 04, 2012, 06:31
yep.
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: Johnnie on May 04, 2012, 09:40
For 330$ pr year you can download 50 full resolution images pr week on iSignstock. Thats 2600 images for 330$ or 12.69 cent pr image which woukd leave the contributor with 3.8 cent after iSignstock has taken their 70% share...Well, we know that almost no buyers use the entire download quota, but this sure smells like a rotten deal for photographers.

Anyone care to share their RPD on iSignStock?

As you mention calculating the RPD based on the maximum download limits is a very misleading approach as literally none of our customers use their full quota. This service is marketed to sign makers. It is an important market for images but their requirement is less than say graphic designers. The vast majority purchase full subscriptions ($395) but use a fraction of their download limit. Currently the average revenue per download ranges from $0.50-$1.20 and don't forget this figure will include images they download for mock ups and samples which will never be used commercially. We have many contributors making good royalties with us and in last month’s polls we were just below Panther Media and Photodune.
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: mtkang on May 04, 2012, 09:53
if it is around $0.5 and 1.2, why not showing it? how about extended license? to me the extended license is the 'real commercial sale', the subscriptions i will treat it like some guys just use it for limited usage..and they are not willing to pay more. That's why extended license is a balance for whole sale.

because of the no information of everything, i only upload some of my portfolio. I don't see that is helping your site.



For 330$ pr year you can download 50 full resolution images pr week on iSignstock. Thats 2600 images for 330$ or 12.69 cent pr image which woukd leave the contributor with 3.8 cent after iSignstock has taken their 70% share...Well, we know that almost no buyers use the entire download quota, but this sure smells like a rotten deal for photographers.

Anyone care to share their RPD on iSignStock?

As you mention calculating the RPD based on the maximum download limits is a very misleading approach as literally none of our customers use their full quota. This service is marketed to sign makers. It is an important market for images but their requirement is less than say graphic designers. The vast majority purchase full subscriptions ($395) but use a fraction of their download limit. Currently the average revenue per download ranges from $0.50-$1.20 and don't forget this figure will include images they download for mock ups and samples which will never be used commercially. We have many contributors making good royalties with us and in last month’s polls we were just below Panther Media and Photodune.
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: gostwyck on May 04, 2012, 09:56
As you mention calculating the RPD based on the maximum download limits is a very misleading approach as literally none of our customers use their full quota. This service is marketed to sign makers. It is an important market for images but their requirement is less than say graphic designers. The vast majority purchase full subscriptions ($395) but use a fraction of their download limit. Currently the average revenue per download ranges from $0.50-$1.20 and don't forget this figure will include images they download for mock ups and samples which will never be used commercially. We have many contributors making good royalties with us and in last month’s polls we were just below Panther Media and Photodune.

Now that you've got all that data on sales and customer behaviour why don't you offer a set commission per download (like all the other subscription sites do)?

I would never upload my portfolio to an outfit like yours that claims to share out a small percentage of revenue between various contributors. Basically you as the agency are taking none of the risk and contributors are taking it all.
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: m@m on May 04, 2012, 11:06
As you mention calculating the RPD based on the maximum download limits is a very misleading approach as literally none of our customers use their full quota. This service is marketed to sign makers. It is an important market for images but their requirement is less than say graphic designers. The vast majority purchase full subscriptions ($395) but use a fraction of their download limit. Currently the average revenue per download ranges from $0.50-$1.20 and don't forget this figure will include images they download for mock ups and samples which will never be used commercially. We have many contributors making good royalties with us and in last month’s polls we were just below Panther Media and Photodune.

Now that you've got all that data on sales and customer behaviour why don't you offer a set commission per download (like all the other subscription sites do)?

I would never upload my portfolio to an outfit like yours that claims to share out a small percentage of revenue between various contributors. Basically you as the agency are taking none of the risk and contributors are taking it all.

You got that right brother!  ;D
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: Johnnie on May 04, 2012, 11:06
if it is around $0.5 and 1.2, why not showing it? how about extended license? to me the extended license is the 'real commercial sale', the subscriptions i will treat it like some guys just use it for limited usage..and they are not willing to pay more. That's why extended license is a balance for whole sale.

Where extended licenses are sold these are of course reported and paid out. I hope that as the sales from your partial portfolio continue to grow it will encourage you to contribute more.
Title: Re: RPD on iSignStock?
Post by: somethingpretentious on May 04, 2012, 18:26
For 330$ pr year you can download 50 full resolution images pr week on iSignstock. Thats 2600 images for 330$ or 12.69 cent pr image which woukd leave the contributor with 3.8 cent after iSignstock has taken their 70% share...Well, we know that almost no buyers use the entire download quota, but this sure smells like a rotten deal for photographers.

Anyone care to share their RPD on iSignStock?

As you mention calculating the RPD based on the maximum download limits is a very misleading approach as literally none of our customers use their full quota. This service is marketed to sign makers. It is an important market for images but their requirement is less than say graphic designers. The vast majority purchase full subscriptions ($395) but use a fraction of their download limit. Currently the average revenue per download ranges from $0.50-$1.20 and don't forget this figure will include images they download for mock ups and samples which will never be used commercially. We have many contributors making good royalties with us and in last month’s polls we were just below Panther Media and Photodune.


$0.50-$1.20 Is the RPD for the contributor?
Why can´t you report downloads to the contributor just like all other agencies does?

Thanks to everybody for answering!