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« on: April 03, 2010, 18:54 »
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to be honest, I dont know how it works (photographer payoff) but its my second best selling agency after shutterstock.
It has overtaken (regarding my revenue) fotolia within 2 months, wow!
« Last Edit: January 05, 2011, 08:49 by OxfordSquare »


« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010, 19:41 »
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Their 'about us' area says that they started in 1996.
Sounds like good longevity for this business.

« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 19:42 »
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Yep, sales for .03...almost-free = still alive.

« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 21:36 »
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How do you get to .03? Not a bad looking site. All the key words that interest me yielded mostly really bad images there. Is this site listed in a hidden below-low-earners section on the right?

« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2010, 22:03 »
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I seriously hope people don't start flocking to them and encouraging their new plan .. they are selling unlimited download subscriptions for $329 a year !!!!! Man who took over and turned that company into a huge piece of &*^%*%? I remember they use to be a major player back in the day.

« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2010, 03:32 »
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They offer this for $329:

"UNLIMITED DOWNLOADS PhotoSpin is the only subscription on the market that offers a truly unlimited service. You will have access to download as many images as you like during the term of your subscription. No limits."

That is....no comment....

I wonder how much they pay contributors?

« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2010, 06:41 »
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They offer this for $329:

"UNLIMITED DOWNLOADS PhotoSpin is the only subscription on the market that offers a truly unlimited service. You will have access to download as many images as you like during the term of your subscription. No limits."

That is....no comment....

I wonder how much they pay contributors?

I wonder that too. Can the OP give us some examples of how much he has received for different size sales so we can compare?

Dook

« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2010, 07:19 »
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U saw their full page add in Photo District News magazine about a year ago, so it looks promising. There were Yuri's pictures there, too. I understood they are asking for exclusive pictures, is it true? After that I forgot about them. Thanks for reminding me, anyway!

Dook

« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2010, 07:24 »
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Ok, I just saw it:
What does PhotoSpin pay?
There are 2 ways you can participate: you can either receive a 50% revenue split for exclusive images to PhotoSpin or a 40% revenue split for non-exclusive images. In both cases the copyright and the image remain yours, you're only licensing the image to us to distribute (as royalty free) to our customers on your behalf. Each revenue split is based upon the number of total downloads of your images per customer per month.

« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2010, 09:10 »
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Ok, I just saw it:
What does PhotoSpin pay?
There are 2 ways you can participate: you can either receive a 50% revenue split for exclusive images to PhotoSpin or a 40% revenue split for non-exclusive images. In both cases the copyright and the image remain yours, you're only licensing the image to us to distribute (as royalty free) to our customers on your behalf. Each revenue split is based upon the number of total downloads of your images per customer per month.

Yes, but how much is the revenue per picture?

« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2010, 10:26 »
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Yes, but how much is the revenue per picture?

You never know until after the last day of the month how much you have made.  Here's an example of mine from many months ago:

62992    145    2    $7.21    $0.04

User #62992 downloaded 145 total photos for his $7.21 subscription.  Two of those were mine so for both I made .04  That's .02 per photo download.

Extra, extra, read all about it - the new low had been broken! lol 

« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2010, 10:54 »
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Wow! 2 cents a pop! Let's rename it photoream.

« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2010, 11:07 »
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@Mantonio, so did you pull your images and cancel your account from there?

gbcimages

« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2010, 11:14 »
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I believe you can't close your account for 5 years

« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2010, 14:21 »
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I believe you can't close your account for 5 years

after 2 years

« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2010, 19:30 »
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now for the real surprise .. how many people will read this and go .. I'm gonna upload all my photos anyway and see what happens because last year I made 50 whole bucks off another low-earner and that's $50 I didn't have before ... there's a lot of *ahem* smart thinkers out there.  ???

« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2010, 19:51 »
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now for the real surprise .. how many people will read this and go .. I'm gonna upload all my photos anyway and see what happens because last year I made 50 whole bucks off another low-earner and that's $50 I didn't have before ... there's a lot of *ahem* smart thinkers out there.  ???

LOL

Where are my 2 cents!?  ;)

« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2010, 21:07 »
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Payment is sent when your balance reaches 1 billion dollars.  ;D

« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2010, 06:55 »
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OK so I had to test the waters and am very satisfied so far. First 150 images got 13 downloads and $3.69 for the first day.

vonkara

« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2010, 09:43 »
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What everyone of you are doing there. Is some of you are uploading addicted ?

« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2010, 22:33 »
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Yes, but how much is the revenue per picture?

You never know until after the last day of the month how much you have made.  Here's an example of mine from many months ago:

62992    145    2    $7.21    $0.04

User #62992 downloaded 145 total photos for his $7.21 subscription.  Two of those were mine so for both I made .04  That's .02 per photo download.

Extra, extra, read all about it - the new low had been broken! lol 

Yes, good maths but what counts is cash in my hands  ;D
I get around 80,00 - 120,00 Dollar a month with 400 pictures.

bittersweet

« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2010, 22:43 »
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One of my clients has a subscription there. It was super cheap and there are pretty much no limits to how many files I can download. I don't see how any contributors can possibly make more than a few cents per download but maybe I'm missing something.

« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2011, 22:04 »
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One of my clients has a subscription there. It was super cheap and there are pretty much no limits to how many files I can download. I don't see how any contributors can possibly make more than a few cents per download but maybe I'm missing something.

I am not a contributor there but I have looked minutes ago and it isnt unlimited anymore, now its 50 daily.. Yuri is there

« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2011, 22:47 »
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Yes it's 1500 max monthly. Which is still an awful lot for this price. One year subscription on Shutterstock is about $2500, and you can download 25 images a day. One year at Photospin is $329-549 and you can download 50 a day. Seriously, they gotta be kidding. I don't know what Yuri is doing there:)

« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2011, 03:04 »
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Despite all the negative comments here, I might give Photospin a try IF they have an easy upload.

-In the bottom line I'm only interested in how much the client pays for an image they REALLY USE. For example they might upload 10 images for $0.03 a pop, but if they use only one of them it's the same as a $0.30 subscription download. And if they use it only in a small size, it's no worse than a $0.30 small size download. I'm still guessing the big players that use images a lot are using IS, SS etc. because they have more images to choose from.

-Yes I'm a bit concerned for piracy, but then again:

-I will only upload selected "crap", images that are collecting dust on other sites, perhaps 5% or 10% of my portfolio.

« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2011, 08:57 »
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Despite all the negative comments here, I might give Photospin a try IF they have an easy upload.

-In the bottom line I'm only interested in how much the client pays for an image they REALLY USE. For example they might upload 10 images for $0.03 a pop, but if they use only one of them it's the same as a $0.30 subscription download. And if they use it only in a small size, it's no worse than a $0.30 small size download. I'm still guessing the big players that use images a lot are using IS, SS etc. because they have more images to choose from.

-Yes I'm a bit concerned for piracy, but then again:

-I will only upload selected "crap", images that are collecting dust on other sites, perhaps 5% or 10% of my portfolio.

I am not at Spin but honestly the piracy issue is all around.. in a few months a client can have all our portfolio could be at Spin, but why not at SS ??

« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2011, 10:47 »
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So, how hard is the uploading process? Do they have FTP, IPTC etc.? Categories?

« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2011, 11:46 »
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So, how hard is the uploading process? Do they have FTP, IPTC etc.? Categories?

I have sent my application minutes ago just to see how it will go, from what I have searched we need to place just a category, and "MR" on the model release file name..

« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2011, 12:28 »
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Categories... why can't they get rid of those for good? :(

ginasanders

« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2011, 12:41 »
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Average 0,13 US Cent per download. No FTP! Any Question? I don't upload new images since 10 month.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2011, 12:44 by ginasanders »

Microbius

« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2011, 13:19 »
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wow, how low would the pay have to get before some people stop uploading to these sites?

« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2011, 13:20 »
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Average 0,13 US Cent per download. No FTP! Any Question? I don't upload new images since 10 month.

This is practically giving out images for free. I don't think any other microstock site is even approaching this. There are 25 cents per photo subscription downloads that people complain about, but taking into account their pay-per-download sales the average is still way higher than that. How low are we willing to go? Many people were outraged by commissions cuts on Istockphoto, and some pulled their stock portfolios or stopped uploading, and yet the lowest commission per image I got on Istock ever was still above 20 cents. Now someone's offering you 13 cents per download or lower and it's worth trying? Doesn't make sense to me.

ginasanders

« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2011, 13:34 »
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double post - sorry!
« Last Edit: January 05, 2011, 11:02 by gina »

ginasanders

« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2011, 13:45 »
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Makes no sense for me too! I stopped uploading as I saw how the billing works.
I've seen that Yuri was on board. Therefore I have upload my images.
But one thing I've learned in the microstock-business: Never delete an existing portfolio. It was too much work to build it. And sorry for my bad english...
« Last Edit: January 04, 2011, 13:53 by gina »

« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2011, 14:08 »
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wow, how low would the pay have to get before some people stop uploading to these sites?

that's a good question.. but why is Yuri there? money no? high or low don't know

Microbius

« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2011, 14:15 »
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Makes no sense for me too! I stopped uploading as I saw how the billing works.
I've seen that Yuri was on board. Therefore I have upload my images.
But one thing I've learned in the microstock-business: Never delete an existing portfolio. It was too much work to build it. And sorry for my bad english...
Sorry gina, I understood, my comment wasn't meant for you, your English is fine.

gbcimages

« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2011, 14:33 »
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depends on how bad  u want to make money. I get a regular payout every month,have been for over a year. Tired of waiting for the other Agencies. just drop your pride and do it.

« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2011, 08:48 »
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nowadays, I also would not recommand photopin. I got sales report about 0,02 US-Dollar for one picture.
No, thanks.

RT


« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2011, 09:05 »
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Many people were outraged by commissions cuts on Istockphoto, and some pulled their stock portfolios or stopped uploading, and yet the lowest commission per image I got on Istock ever was still above 20 cents. Now someone's offering you 13 cents per download or lower and it's worth trying? Doesn't make sense to me.

Exactly the reason sites like iStock do and will continue to lower our commissions, as long as people support sites like this we will never have an argument against other sites lowering commissions, Ingrampublishing is another fine example, I just can't understand seeing people uploading there and then complaining that iStock have lowered commissions!!

« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2011, 09:17 »
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Many people were outraged by commissions cuts on Istockphoto, and some pulled their stock portfolios or stopped uploading, and yet the lowest commission per image I got on Istock ever was still above 20 cents. Now someone's offering you 13 cents per download or lower and it's worth trying? Doesn't make sense to me.

Exactly the reason sites like iStock do and will continue to lower our commissions, as long as people support sites like this we will never have an argument against other sites lowering commissions, Ingrampublishing is another fine example, I just can't understand seeing people uploading there and then complaining that iStock have lowered commissions!!

SS (almost 14 million pictures)
- 1 month 199 EUR (25 downs) (client can buy 750 pictures for 0.34$ each)
- 1 year 2049 EUR (25 downs) (client can buy 9125 pictures for 0.26$ each)

SPIN (for premium collection = 300k pictures)
- 1 year 329$ (3600px) (50 downs) (client can buy 18250 pictures for 0.018$ each)
- 1 year 549$ (5100px) (50 downs) (client can buy 18250 pictures for 0.03$ each)

SPIN (for expanded collection = 1.9m (dont understand from where they come))
- 1 month 488$ (5100px) (25 downs) (client can buy 750 pictures for 0.65$ each)
- 1 year 3488$ (5100px) (25 downs) (client can buy 9125 pictures for 0.38$ each)

if client doesn't spend all his subscription SPIN gives higher royalties, SS doesn't

what does this mean?.. contributors are just getting lower royalties if the clients go to PREMIUM collection which is 300k pictures..

are photospin sales from this premium collection?? please tell us more regarding your sales..

SPIN should just erase the premium :P
« Last Edit: January 05, 2011, 10:17 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2011, 23:48 »
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We have only seen real numbers from one person,  that is someone who says they make 80-120 per month off 400 photos. That is .20 rpi a month on the low end this is near the same RPI as I earn on SS. I hate to give someone my photos for such a terrible rate 13 cents or whatever, but at the end of the month if I can add $80 to my income it sounds more tempting. Anyone else willing to share how much you earn per image per month (RPI) I don't want to make any bad decisions based on the data of only one contributer.

« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2011, 01:02 »
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nowadays, I also would not recommand photopin. I got sales report about 0,02 US-Dollar for one picture.
No, thanks.

curious, less than a month ago you were making 80 to 120.. cant see why that have changed..

« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2012, 08:02 »
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   Hello. I uploaded some of my files here to test the waters. How can I see if I had sales? Cause i cannot find anything on my account about this. Thanks.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2012, 16:46 by tavi »

microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2012, 09:13 »
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   Hello. I uploaded some of my files here to test the waters. How can I see if I had sales? Cause i cannot find anithing on my account about this. Thanks.

after logging in as a contributor, look at the REPORT section on the left;
you can see "Images downloaded" and "Monthly sales" from there

Direct links (must be logged in as a contributor):
https://www.photospin.com/contributor_downloads.asp
https://www.photospin.com/contributor_sales.asp

Poncke

« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2012, 09:29 »
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Average 0,13 US Cent per download. No FTP! Any Question? I don't upload new images since 10 month.

This is practically giving out images for free. I don't think any other microstock site is even approaching this. There are 25 cents per photo subscription downloads that people complain about, but taking into account their pay-per-download sales the average is still way higher than that. How low are we willing to go? Many people were outraged by commissions cuts on Istockphoto, and some pulled their stock portfolios or stopped uploading, and yet the lowest commission per image I got on Istock ever was still above 20 cents. Now someone's offering you 13 cents per download or lower and it's worth trying? Doesn't make sense to me.
Dont get that either, people still testing waters  for 2 cents, but complain about getting 7 cents at IS.


 

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