Leaf hasn't posted since January. The site is slower every day. There aren't poll results because 39 people is not enough. I will post this and see if it goes live or if the forum times out before it's created. Enjoy the group while you can.

Let em stay on social media as far as I'm concerned, I can't stomach those platform :barf:

While I was filling the topic about politics and the war in Ukraine, the forum was visited by 8,000 people a week. But the enemies of truth, democracy and Biden's trolls deleted the topic in which they themselves wrote. Now the forum is read by very few people.
Autocratic and undemocratic methods of moderation lead to such results. That is why people create topics like this.

 

I had a political forum before. Never took off unfortunately.

While I was filling the topic about politics and the war in Ukraine, the forum was visited by 8,000 people a week. But the enemies of truth, democracy and Biden's trolls deleted the topic in which they themselves wrote. Now the forum is read by very few people.
Autocratic and undemocratic methods of moderation lead to such results. That is why people create topics like this.

 

haha, it's funny how you worded that stoker... while I don't believe I ever read whatever thread it is you are referring to that you started... what you've said right there, is that anything that is contrary to your OPINION... is an "enemy of truth, democracy, and a biden troll"... (obviously I guess you are a biden lover as opposed to a trump lover, 100% believe what is on television about ukraine and are 'anti-russian', etc, etc)... lol, do you not see the irony in that statement you made - that - you basically are a communist/socialist? (not sure if you know what those terms actually mean, because you don't really seem to know what 'democracy' is either or 'free speech' is either)... but... by your statement - you are basically yelling/screaming that whatever your OPINION is - you think is 100% correct, and don't want to be challenged on it... lol - maybe if that thread had 8000 people (unlikely, you were probably reading the stats incorrectly, it may very well still just been '39' people re-reading the post + replies - that is probably what the '8000' # was)... but maybe they were just trying to get through to you that your OPINION is not fact...

BTW, if you really understood what was going on, which it sounds like you don't... but if you did - you'd realize the 'two-party' system (present in most countries) is a distraction to try and get individuals to fight each other (i.e., MY prez is the good prez!) - instead of realizing it's a small group of psychopaths manipulating the system while they steal people's money via inflation+taxation, making it difficult for you & others to 'get by' - meanwhile they fly on gas guzzling private jets, one for themselves, and one for their gas guzzling limos, to go to "climate change" conferences to discuss how/why you need to give up your car and ride a bicycle, so they can continue to jet around while eating caviar and having all the s3x they want, because they are trying to make you & others are too broke to get laid... that's kind of what's really going on...

Anyways... have a good day!

anyhoo... ah. quite funny maybe now you'll get another '8000' people responding here

Tyler has moved on to a new business that pays the bills and has a future. Be honest folks this business had dried up for the masses. Sure a few are making some money but can they live on their earnings? In most places in the US you need to make $72,000 (USD) a year. Few make that kind of money in this business. Besides this site tends to be very negative in nature. You really don't get much help here ---I understand the high rollers don't want to give away their secrets just like good fishermen. So when this site is sun-setted really nothing has been lost...

When the forum is no longer profitable to operate, Leaf will take it down.



Most of the "Secrets of Microstock" are BS and personal opinion, they are unreliable much of the time, and imaginary. The truth is, all that's necessary is, make a good product, better than others, that buyers want and need. Follow style trends, designers, colors, and current fashion. Oh there I go again, telling the Top Secrets. LOL

Yes, you're right, the site has gone negative, off topic, there's very little discussion of the actual business or markets. People should be competing but also recognize they are associates and competition, but share a common interest and can benefit from sharing factual information. Why should someone come to a forum to say, I know the secrets, but I'm not here to tell anyone or share. Why come to the forum at all?

Microstock is mostly dead. Yeah, some people still work and make a living, most people don't, didn't and won't ever. Stop viewing this as a legitimate business opportunity with any growth potential or future. The prime time and boom is over. We're just watching the rotting carcass of what once was.

But in agreement, when Leaf finds it's costing him money to run this forum, he will understandable pull the plug. This forum is not a free charity, it's a business. If anyone has been coming here, feels like they have some entitlement to free use of a public forum, they haven't realized that referrals and ads, pay for our being able to enjoy the site.

lol, "microstock" is "not dead". very much alive & kicking.

a la 'google' (focusing on a couple 'stock specific' websites):
shutterstock revenue 2023: $870 million
getty revenue 2023: $900 million

So... 1.8 BILLLLLLLLLLLLLLION dollars. That's a "decent" income. (According to IBIS, it "estimates" (very loosely)) a minimum of $13 BILLLLLLLLLLLLION dollars...

The RALE question is... how do you get a significantly larger share of that $1.8 BILLLLLLLLLLLLION dollars in your pocket? (or 13 billion?)

And that is just TWO companies. Not including other major companies, foreign companies, etc, etc...

The microstock business is doing quite well.

Neither company makes the majority of their profits from Microstock. Open your eyes, open your mind, see the world beyond Microstock, which is just a tiny part of the market place. The business of Microstock is doing quite poorly and dying. I don't mean just for us. The agencies are also struggling and failing.

Yes, Adobe, Shutterstock and Getty are all doing well as a larger business.

In 2020-2021 40% of SS business was in subscriptions. The revenue was up 16%. Did your income go up 16%? Looking now, how many of your sales are listed as "Subscriptions"? That part of the business has dried up, and so has our income.

Shutterstock may be doing well, but Microstock is not. Adobe boosts their creative cloud by offering images. They are holding fine and paying us the most, for most people. Getty images is not only in trouble, they went on the market again, and the stock is down. iStock is not their most important division.

All three are increasing their revenue using AI tools as a product, not Microstock.

Denial does not change reality.

Quote from: Big Money on August 20, 2024, 08:28

Tyler has moved on to a new business that pays the bills and has a future. Be honest folks this business had dried up for the masses. Sure a few are making some money but can they live on their earnings? In most places in the US you need to make $72,000 (USD) a year. Few make that kind of money in this business. Besides this site tends to be very negative in nature. You really don't get much help here ---I understand the high rollers don't want to give away their secrets just like good fishermen. So when this site is sun-setted really nothing has been lost...

When the forum is no longer profitable to operate, Leaf will take it down.



Most of the "Secrets of Microstock" are BS and personal opinion, they are unreliable much of the time, and imaginary. The truth is, all that's necessary is, make a good product, better than others, that buyers want and need. Follow style trends, designers, colors, and current fashion. Oh there I go again, telling the Top Secrets. LOL

Yes, you're right, the site has gone negative, off topic, there's very little discussion of the actual business or markets. People should be competing but also recognize they are associates and competition, but share a common interest and can benefit from sharing factual information. Why should someone come to a forum to say, I know the secrets, but I'm not here to tell anyone or share. Why come to the forum at all?

Microstock is mostly dead. Yeah, some people still work and make a living, most people don't, didn't and won't ever. Stop viewing this as a legitimate business opportunity with any growth potential or future. The prime time and boom is over. We're just watching the rotting carcass of what once was.

But in agreement, when Leaf finds it's costing him money to run this forum, he will understandable pull the plug. This forum is not a free charity, it's a business. If anyone has been coming here, feels like they have some entitlement to free use of a public forum, they haven't realized that referrals and ads, pay for our being able to enjoy the site.

Running a forum isn�t expensive, especially nowadays. It�s expensive to keep it active . This forum is chat based only, so I can�t see the hosting to be really expensive. Even the soft that is used for this forum is FREE.

As a webmaster, I can say there are a lot of factors why a website can be slow.