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« on: November 24, 2010, 16:44 »
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Hi All,
Visco Images, a new stock photography agency, announces instant cash for the submission of new images and some big prizes of thousand dollars.
All the details here:

http://www.mystockphoto.org/visco-images-announces-instant-cash-for-submissions/

Cheers,
     R.


« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 18:01 »
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Where do they get the money to pay us?  I'm not interested in sites like this anymore, I want sales.  I have been paid to upload a few times and my portfolio just sites there for a year with hardly any sales.

I did a quick search and wasn't impressed.  They shouldn't be selling this one as RF, it's a trademark.
http://www.viscoimages.com/photo/17658_underground_sign_against_the_blue_sky_london/

« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 18:13 »
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Where do they get the money to pay us?  I'm not interested in sites like this anymore, I want sales.  I have been paid to upload a few times and my portfolio just sites there for a year with hardly any sales.

I did a quick search and wasn't impressed.  They shouldn't be selling this one as RF, it's a trademark.
http://www.viscoimages.com/photo/17658_underground_sign_against_the_blue_sky_london/


they have also Eiffel tower by night, but they will change that for sure :)

« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2010, 19:08 »
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QUOTe:
"I'm not interested in sites like this anymore, I want sales.  I have been paid to upload a few times and my portfolio just sites there for a year with hardly any sales."
^
^
Im with you bother, im tired of it!
I wont do it anymore...u n l e s s...they lower the payout lvl to say $20.00...maybe?

« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2010, 23:34 »
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I read something like there are 3 levels of photographers that received different commissions.

http://www.viscoimages.com/page/artist_agreement/

it seems that everyone starts as level 1? or the reviewer decides it? can we move up to higher level?

the uploading bonus is the lowest $0.15.. $0.25 for images with model release.

« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2010, 01:07 »
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I read something like there are 3 levels of photographers that received different commissions.

http://www.viscoimages.com/page/artist_agreement/

it seems that everyone starts as level 1? or the reviewer decides it? can we move up to higher level?

the uploading bonus is the lowest $0.15.. $0.25 for images with model release.


Visco Images uses 3 different qualification levels for the contributors that give opportunity for the best photographers/artists to submit more images at a time by using FTP upload process and earn even more money. The qualification process starts immediately right after you have completed your first submission. During this process our expert will analyze your image quality and your skills in needed programs such as Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator or so on depending on the type of images you provide. You will receive e-mail confirmation when your qualification is done.

YES the reviewers decide

« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2010, 02:46 »
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Yuri isn't there yet. It can't be serious therefore.  :P

« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2010, 10:19 »
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Who owns the big sack of cash they are handing out money from?

« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2010, 10:29 »
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^^^That's what I would like to know.  I can't believe any business person would invest in a new microstock site.  If there's someone giving away money, we could start our own site. 

They might think they can make money by people never reaching the payout level but with running costs, I can't see that being very profitable.  I just don't see how a new site that looks like so many others that haven't worked can pay for us to upload, market the site and hope to make any money.  So unless they can come here and tell me what's special about this one, I'm not interested.

« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2010, 11:27 »
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They already have 7273 images online. This could very well become one of the big ones.  ;D

« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2010, 11:49 »
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looks like a bit of an arcane way of telling what your royalties would be and a multi level marketing scheme for the referrals.

That's cool that they can tell how well I know my way around photoshop by looking at an image - or maybe it isn't photoshopped at all and I know my way around a camera?

I would like to see more transparency on how much you would get per sale of various image sizes if you were in the lowest group (because that is where they will probably stick the majority), what are the usages allowed etc. etc.

a one year lock in seems rather long for .15 - especially if they reserve the right to tweak royalties and costs and everything else (like most sites seem to these days).

Maybe this information is in there somewhere, but I didn't see it with a quick look. EG how much does a 4 MP image cost the buyer and how much would I get for that sale?

excuse me for being skeptical, but I am.

« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2010, 14:57 »
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I signed up for a free account yesterday as submitter , but had no confirmation Email with password to connect to my account.
How long does it takes to receive this password ?

« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2010, 15:39 »
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I found mine in my spam folder, try there.

« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2010, 17:34 »
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Nothing there...
how long does it takes for you ?

Carl

  • Carl Stewart, CS Productions
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2010, 19:48 »
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I applied for a contributor (photographer) account this morning; still waiting for that confirmation email this evening.

« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2010, 19:52 »
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They might think they can make money by people never reaching the payout level but with running costs, I can't see that being very profitable.
That's how LO survived. I was stuck halfway payout when they closed doors. You didn't get cash but could convert it to sales credits which was in fact monopoly-money. A more dirty trick was played by FotoMind that credited me 75$ for upload with a payout limit of 100$. When I was nearing the payout limit after a couple of years, the *insult removed* closed doors and didn't even pay a red herring, spilling my email address around.

The right way to install an upload premium is how DP and Veer did it. For at least 500 images accepted, the upload premium was way over the payout limit. An upload premium for a decent number of accepted images (500 or more) should be payed immediately or it's just monopoly money.

« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2010, 07:58 »
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so is there a way we advance to a higher levels?

and i read the instant cash saying something like one can request payment $30-50 depends on your level.. but faq is minimum $100?

$0.15 is the lowest payments ever for uploading if i remember it correctly.

Can't find the upload buttons, and the 'support' page that one can submit message is not working..
« Last Edit: November 27, 2010, 08:22 by mtkang »

« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2010, 10:34 »
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i can't find an email on the website in order to ask some questions..

« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2010, 11:45 »
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They never sent my password on mail. Not good..

donding

  • Think before you speak
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2010, 12:17 »
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Seems to me no response to e-mail....no response to concerns voiced on here....I'd say run the other way. That's all I have to say.

gbcimages

« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2010, 12:40 »
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I've got 19 images approved 20 more waiting for review. At .15  a shot your not going to make much before the time deadline. I don't know if it's going to be worth the effort. I'll hold off for now from uploading until i see some effort from them.

« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2010, 13:00 »
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14 photos accepted on 15 yesterday but always on level 1.

The only photo rejected was an exclusive one with MR ( 5$ / upload , is it a coincidence ?)

So if it's not possible to submit more than 20 photos a day, I wonder if it worth the effort...

« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2010, 10:31 »
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http://www.viscoimages.com/spage/view/Visco-Images-pays-instant-cash-for-your-images

it seems they had updated the contents stating one can get paid $30-$50..

But I would like them to increase the instant cash, $0.15 is what they pay, and they are using levels on photographers, and the image has to be with them for one year.

I browse around and don't really see any downloads on most images, and i happened to see some images like showing woman private parts, and i remember the first time i visited the sites 2 months ago? i saw many images of same naked woman posing on rock or seaside. I didn't even think of joining after seeing those kind of images, i am not against who had posted it, but what kind of buyers they are looking for?

If they happened to close down in 1 year, do we get paid for the remaining even we didn't reach the payout?

« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2010, 11:45 »
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...If they happened to close down in 1 year, do we get paid for the remaining even we didn't reach the payout?
I doubt anyone that doesn't reach the payout level would get paid.  And the chances of them failing must be very high, if they are paying people to upload and I can't see any reason why buyers would want to use them.  That's why I'm not even considering this one, there's alarm bells ringing.  Why are they paying for uploads when new sites that don't have anything special to offer don't make any money?

gbcimages

« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2010, 12:23 »
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...If they happened to close down in 1 year, do we get paid for the remaining even we didn't reach the payout?
I doubt anyone that doesn't reach the payout level would get paid.  And the chances of them failing must be very high, if they are paying people to upload and I can't see any reason why buyers would want to use them.  That's why I'm not even considering this one, there's alarm bells ringing.  Why are they paying for uploads when new sites that don't have anything special to offer don't make any money?

I'm kind of skeptical,that's why I stopped uploading until I see some positive effort on their part.

« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2010, 17:30 »
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I sent them a test batch and they rejected everything. I think this recent campaign is an effort to lure some of the big names in microstock into their fold, but I don't think it will work.

« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2010, 18:55 »
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I sent them a test batch and they rejected everything. I think this recent campaign is an effort to lure some of the big names in microstock into their fold, but I don't think it will work.

what have you sent?.. I have really average portraits, little concept and they are getting in.. don't get why they are acting like that with you..

« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2010, 19:06 »
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I sent them a test batch and they rejected everything. I think this recent campaign is an effort to lure some of the big names in microstock into their fold, but I don't think it will work.

what have you sent?.. I have really average portraits, little concept and they are getting in.. don't get why they are acting like that with you..

It's my usual non-people average stuff. I get 60 - 70 % approval on stockfresh so they should have taken some at least. The other thing is they require you to put a category and a dominant color for each image as part of the submission process. That's not worth the effort for me. You can't just upload and forget about it.

« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2010, 19:27 »
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I sent them a test batch and they rejected everything. I think this recent campaign is an effort to lure some of the big names in microstock into their fold, but I don't think it will work.

what have you sent?.. I have really average portraits, little concept and they are getting in.. don't get why they are acting like that with you..

It's my usual non-people average stuff. I get 60 - 70 % approval on stockfresh so they should have taken some at least. The other thing is they require you to put a category and a dominant color for each image as part of the submission process. That's not worth the effort for me. You can't just upload and forget about it.

Yes it hard work.. (how about I am waiting for 6 months at stockfresh :P)

« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2010, 23:31 »
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anyone getting paid yet ?  ???

« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2010, 00:05 »
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anyone getting paid yet ?  ???

yes a few bucks so far but still waiting that they fix IPTC (isn't working at least for me)

« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2010, 00:14 »
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anyone getting paid yet ?  ???

yes a few bucks so far but still waiting that they fix IPTC (isn't working at least for me)

That's because they use Adobe's XMP for metadata, same as Istock.

« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2010, 00:19 »
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anyone getting paid yet ?  ???

yes a few bucks so far but still waiting that they fix IPTC (isn't working at least for me)

That's because they use Adobe's XMP for metadata, same as Istock.

Only keywords get imported..

« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2010, 00:46 »
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anyone getting paid yet ?  ???

yes a few bucks so far but still waiting that they fix IPTC (isn't working at least for me)

That's because they use Adobe's XMP for metadata, same as Istock.

You have to convert IPTC to XMP or copy the IPTC metadata to XMP, I use the free program XnView for that.

Only keywords get imported..

« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2010, 01:18 »
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anyone getting paid yet ?  ???

yes a few bucks so far but still waiting that they fix IPTC (isn't working at least for me)

That's because they use Adobe's XMP for metadata, same as Istock.


You have to convert IPTC to XMP or copy the IPTC metadata to XMP, I use the free program XnView for that.

Only keywords get imported..

thanks for sharing!
« Last Edit: November 30, 2010, 01:26 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2010, 01:38 »
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curious.. still just importing keywords.. on the XMP I have the following:

<?xpacket begin="" id="W5M0MpCehiHzreSzNTczkc9d"?>
<x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="XMP Core 4.1.1">
   <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
      <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
            xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">
         <dc:title>Man listening to music</dc:title>
         <dc:description>attractive young man listening to music on the couch</dc:description>
         <dc:subject>
            <rdf:Bag>
               <rdf:li>music, sofa, music, person, adult, home, man, male, young, smile, house, people, caucasian, room, portrait, couch, leisure, happy, headphones, listening, lifestyle, living, modern, interior, sitting, relax, casual, one, guy, listen, technology, indoors, handsome, human, fun, relaxation, resting, happiness, life, cheerful, looking, fresh, sound, single, enjoyment, twenties, 20-25, shirt, blue, men, people, audio, mp3, activity</rdf:li>
            </rdf:Bag>
         </dc:subject>
      </rdf:Description>
   </rdf:RDF>
</x:xmpmeta>
                                   

Do I have anything wrong?? thanks

RacePhoto

« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2010, 03:41 »
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Where do they get the money to pay us?  I'm not interested in sites like this anymore, I want sales.  I have been paid to upload a few times and my portfolio just sites there for a year with hardly any sales.

I did a quick search and wasn't impressed.  They shouldn't be selling this one as RF, it's a trademark.
http://www.viscoimages.com/photo/17658_underground_sign_against_the_blue_sky_london/


they have also Eiffel tower by night, but they will change that for sure :)


The claim that the lighting is protected has never been challenged in court, so it's just a nice assumed legality until then. Maybe some day?

If that's gibberish, no one has ever defended their right to use the night shots of the Eiffel Tower.

There are many others like this and some agency CYA policies which are not law but chicken S4!^ that they toss out at us.

As for uploading for money, It's About Time that people stopped wasting their time and sending off everything they own to some relatively anonymous place, for some crummy payment, only to have the images languish or worse yet, get sold to another partner or some distribution site, or stolen by one of the free sites so they can make CDs with your images and pay you nothing. About time that people woke up and discovered there isn't some pot of gold at the end of the rainbow if they can catch the Microstock Magic Leprechaun hiding behind the latest "me too" new site, with all the same images from all the same people, trying to sell to all the same customers. Usually by subscription or price cutting. The first place where the price is cut is from the artists commissions.

No more dilution and price war. YEA!

« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2010, 08:23 »
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That's because they use Adobe's XMP for metadata, same as Istock.
And like Veer. The Adobe superset of the core IPTC scheme is proprietary, yet all these sites adhere to it. Their loss.

« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2010, 12:27 »
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7 photos rejected and 120 online but I'm still on Level One...

So I'm unable to submit more than 20 photos/ day.

A ticket was sent to support but no answer !!!

 

« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2010, 12:49 »
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Where do they get the money to pay us?  I'm not interested in sites like this anymore, I want sales.  I have been paid to upload a few times and my portfolio just sites there for a year with hardly any sales.

I did a quick search and wasn't impressed.  They shouldn't be selling this one as RF, it's a trademark.
http://www.viscoimages.com/photo/17658_underground_sign_against_the_blue_sky_london/


they have also Eiffel tower by night, but they will change that for sure :)


The claim that the lighting is protected has never been challenged in court, so it's just a nice assumed legality until then.


No. It has been challenged in court.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_Tower#Image_copyright_claims

« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2010, 15:43 »
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7 photos rejected and 120 online but I'm still on Level One...

So I'm unable to submit more than 20 photos/ day.

A ticket was sent to support but no answer !!!

 

send another :)

« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2010, 15:56 »
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It's OK, it 's fixed !

RacePhoto

« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2010, 00:14 »
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Where do they get the money to pay us?  I'm not interested in sites like this anymore, I want sales.  I have been paid to upload a few times and my portfolio just sites there for a year with hardly any sales.

I did a quick search and wasn't impressed.  They shouldn't be selling this one as RF, it's a trademark.
http://www.viscoimages.com/photo/17658_underground_sign_against_the_blue_sky_london/


they have also Eiffel tower by night, but they will change that for sure :)


The claim that the lighting is protected has never been challenged in court, so it's just a nice assumed legality until then.


No. It has been challenged in court.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_Tower#Image_copyright_claims


Never taken to court. No one has been charged. Just  an opinion of the court without a trial. At least that's the take I've seen. One Wiki quoting another website, quoting another site that interviewed the people behind the light show, isn't a trial, it's a legal opinion that was issued.

And as usual, I reserve the right to be wrong, but with case law, you need a case.

Problem is, if they take it to court and lose, then everyone can take all the pictures we want and they lose their protection. Interesting situation. So cease and desist letters and posturing, threatening, usually stops the use. In this case it stops the agencies, before they think about selling a picture, so it has been effective.

This is the same issue with "property releases" which the agencies have created and may create a precedent for future challenges, where there was nothing to challenge before. If it's not illegal to use a picture of an old building, and agencies require it, it could become law. That would screw up everything that was fine, before the microstock sites created the need for an unnecessary release.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2010, 00:19 by RacePhoto »

« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2010, 04:04 »
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Hi all,
I started uploading on Visco on November 30th, they quite fast reviewed my first batch of 18 and only 19 of the 20 in the batch of December 1st, approving 25 out of 37. Then they stopped reviewing, leaving the last image of the 2nd batch and 160 more pending ???. I asked my referrer and she is in the same situation, stuck with one image in a batch unreviewed, and all following batches.

In the while one of my referred is uploading exclusive model released images at 5 $ each, was at tier 2 a couple of days ago and has already collected more payouts, and has no troubles in getting reviewed  :)

Is anyone else stuck like me an my referrer? Are they keeping in the queue the images of the lowest tier until December 22nd so they will not have to pay for those images?

Roberto

« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2010, 07:04 »
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I stopped uploading after a few initial files and deleted most of my approved files. The site does not seem to be run professionally to me. Even Depositphotos had their act together way better than this outfit.

« Reply #45 on: December 11, 2010, 09:53 »
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They just reviewed over 100 images all together, rejecting over 60 with different reasons. I'd prefferd to know the reasons before, so I could choose save the time of uploading and giving titles to many later.

Yes, DB was much more serious


 

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