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« on: April 21, 2016, 17:51 »
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I only started uploading in February, I have images with Dreamstime, Deposit Photos, Bigstock - I have just a couple of sales with these but no sales as yet with Canstock (only joined recently). Depending on acceptances I have between 150 and 200 so I know it's not many but I do have sales with SS, iStock and Fotolia.

Anyone have insight for these sites. I've read that sales come over time with Dreamstime but I'm not so sure they ever will with the others?


« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2016, 19:09 »
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I would say don't waste time with the lowest earners until you have several thousands of high value images.  Even with over 5 thousand images I hardly ever get a payout on low earners.  I consider Canstock to be low to mid level  so worthwhile.

« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2016, 20:08 »
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no

Chichikov

« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2016, 23:07 »
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I think that when you begin with the microstock business the $100 that you can make every month with 20 low earners can be interesting.
But when your portfolio will have grown and your sales on the top earners will have grown accordingly you can let the low earners go because it becomes a waste of time.

« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2016, 01:16 »
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I think that when you begin with the microstock business the $100 that you can make every month with 20 low earners can be interesting.
But when your portfolio will have grown and your sales on the top earners will have grown accordingly you can let the low earners go because it becomes a waste of time.
$100 a month with low earners would be an excellent return I doubt many could achieve that with 200 images

« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2016, 01:33 »
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It's worth it if you can get your images up quickly. If your images contains the necessary meta data, getting it up on some sites can be fairly easy. If you're working with vectors, the task becomes a lot harder because of different upload requirements for different sites.

I have my portfolio up on 2 sites fully and 3 other sites partially. I put all my focus on the best selling sites and I try to maximize their earnings. When I have down time, I upload to the middle tier sites. So far, it's been going well for me.

Chichikov

« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2016, 02:20 »
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I think that when you begin with the microstock business the $100 that you can make every month with 20 low earners can be interesting.
But when your portfolio will have grown and your sales on the top earners will have grown accordingly you can let the low earners go because it becomes a waste of time.
$100 a month with low earners would be an excellent return I doubt many could achieve that with 200 images
Yes, you are right :)

« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2016, 12:40 »
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submitting to low-earners take time and if you consider the time uploading , editing ,etc..
the same energy would be better spent making new works for ss, is, fotolia..
if that is where you see regular sales.

i don't like to upload even to dreamstime, alamy or fotolia, when i see that after years i still
as i said before in other thread, i make more in one month with ss than i make in years with these
others.  worst still, when i see i have zero views  , which tells me i am really wasting my time
cannibalizing my images which are getting maybe 1 sales a month. even that is optimistic
...
so, to answer you question, i say definitely not. i make payout monthly with ss
and there is no requesting payoff and all that bs...
and i don't mean bigstock, lol

SergeStudio

« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2016, 13:34 »
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Hi, some info from a beginner
[Sorry, automatic translation]
Here is my experience after 120 days.
I downloaded my first images since the beginning of the year:
SS iS, FL, DT, DP, and CS PantherMedia (PM)
Validation of photos:
- According microstocks: 380/280 retained
- DT and FL are the most selective (to absurd ... but ... we do not know the guidelines and the spirit of the inspectors ...)
- The most reactive: SS valid images in 1 or 2 days.
- The slowest: PantherMedia! I still have 68 images waiting for 6 weeks!
- FL: 1 to 2 weeks
- IStock takes his time ...

sales results
- Some pictures with a 'good' commission (1.88 / 0.81 for SS, 4.32 / 1.44 for MI, 6.52 for iS).
Otherwise all other images are on the floor.
Sales amount (to date)
- SS: 24.16
- IS: 15.16
- FL: 10.24
Number of sales:
- SS: 74
- IS: 21
Fla: 11
Needless to mention other ...
I do not know if it's good or not ... (well came review)

It seems to me that this is an activity that lasts over time.
In recent auctions, there were achievements of the first hour ...
It is chaotic: almost no results last week, and 3 sales 'good' raked the weekend.
With my few hundred sold, I was able to establish some guidelines. For example :
- I think FT iS and do not sell the same type of images SS
- Horizontal images are much ... much more sold than vertical images
- The white background of images are sold as the other images (about 2/3)
After this test, I took some decisions:
- Abandonment of DT. No results for a major site (?) Industry.
- CS-surrender.
- Subscription Alamy (almost 100 images already uploaded)
- I will take a decision for PM when they come out of hibernation ...
- For now I wait to see DP
Some problems :
- I really regret that Ligthroom class keywords by alphabetical list. Recently, just before the download, I got used to open the images in Photoshop to place the keywords.
- Sites show quite well the IPTC but not always the same (title, legend, etc ...)
- The different interfaces (DeepMeta, FT, SS, Alamy ... and surprising PantherM!)
- With or without separators, with or without plural, number of words, characters, etc ...

Here's some info from a beginner.
Thank you for your attention

« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2016, 14:25 »
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i upl to ss, pond and canva

I still upload to some low earners when it's quick & simple (ie, they don't require ANY editing after uploading) - the ones I have left are Solid , 123;  I've stopped upl to DT because of drop in sales and category req'd

I tried 500px & picfair, but dropped them after no sales in 6+ mo

« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2016, 17:25 »
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Thanks so much for your replies, lots of food for thought amongst them.

Through this forum I found Xpiks and it is such a time saver.

Maybe you have a point etudiante_rapide, I don't see ever getting payout from those small sites so perhaps I should drop them now while I will only lose a few dollars. Perhaps my time would be better spent making new images as you suggest...

submitting to low-earners take time and if you consider the time uploading , editing ,etc..
the same energy would be better spent making new works for ss, is, fotolia..
if that is where you see regular sales.

i don't like to upload even to dreamstime, alamy or fotolia, when i see that after years i still
as i said before in other thread, i make more in one month with ss than i make in years with these
others.  worst still, when i see i have zero views  , which tells me i am really wasting my time
cannibalizing my images which are getting maybe 1 sales a month. even that is optimistic
...
so, to answer you question, i say definitely not. i make payout monthly with ss
and there is no requesting payoff and all that bs...
and i don't mean bigstock, lol

« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2016, 17:52 »
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Hi, some info from a beginner
[Sorry, automatic translation]
Here is my experience after 120 days.
I downloaded my first images since the beginning of the year:
SS iS, FL, DT, DP, and CS PantherMedia (PM)
Validation of photos:
- According microstocks: 380/280 retained
- DT and FL are the most selective (to absurd ... but ... we do not know the guidelines and the spirit of the inspectors ...)
- The most reactive: SS valid images in 1 or 2 days.
- The slowest: PantherMedia! I still have 68 images waiting for 6 weeks!
- FL: 1 to 2 weeks
- IStock takes his time ...

sales results
- Some pictures with a 'good' commission (1.88 / 0.81 for SS, 4.32 / 1.44 for MI, 6.52 for iS).
Otherwise all other images are on the floor.
Sales amount (to date)
- SS: 24.16
- IS: 15.16
- FL: 10.24
Number of sales:
- SS: 74
- IS: 21
Fla: 11
Needless to mention other ...
I do not know if it's good or not ... (well came review)

You would think we have the same portfolio! For my 85 days on SS I have 75 sales at $24.66, almost the same as you. IS has similar income to SS but with fewer sales. For me it seems iS might be a better earner but I guess time will tell.

My acceptance on Fotolia is only around 55% but DT accepts 85% for me. SS is probably between the two.

Good luck!

« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2016, 17:55 »
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I think that when you begin with the microstock business the $100 that you can make every month with 20 low earners can be interesting.
But when your portfolio will have grown and your sales on the top earners will have grown accordingly you can let the low earners go because it becomes a waste of time.
$100 a month with low earners would be an excellent return I doubt many could achieve that with 200 images

At this point $100 a month from the high earners would be nice, haha. It's early days for me though...

« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2016, 18:08 »
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I would say don't waste time with the lowest earners until you have several thousands of high value images.  Even with over 5 thousand images I hardly ever get a payout on low earners.  I consider Canstock to be low to mid level  so worthwhile.

Thanks PixelBytes. With your 5000+ images you still upload to CS, DT, DP and BS? How about Alamy and 123? Others are suggesting they're not worth the effort. I'm thinking I won't upload anymore unless they are just a couple of clicks as @cascoly suggests.

I appreciate everyone taking time to answer. For the aussies out there have a great Anzac Day long weekend :)

« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2016, 18:16 »
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I think that when you begin with the microstock business the $100 that you can make every month with 20 low earners can be interesting.
But when your portfolio will have grown and your sales on the top earners will have grown accordingly you can let the low earners go because it becomes a waste of time.

If you make a total of $100/mo with 20 low earners how is that worthwhile or interesting?  Payout limits mean you won't actually be able to collect those piddly pennies or few $ per site for months, if ever.  So you get the hassle of uploading and submitting to 20 sites for a pittance you can't even collect?  That's not my definition of interesting.

« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2016, 18:24 »
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I would say don't waste time with the lowest earners until you have several thousands of high value images.  Even with over 5 thousand images I hardly ever get a payout on low earners.  I consider Canstock to be low to mid level  so worthwhile.

Thanks PixelBytes. With your 5000+ images you still upload to CS, DT, DP and BS? How about Alamy and 123? Others are suggesting they're not worth the effort. I'm thinking I won't upload anymore unless they are just a couple of clicks as @cascoly suggests.

I appreciate everyone taking time to answer. For the aussies out there have a great Anzac Day long weekend :)

Due to falling sales across the board, I haven't uploaded to any micro sites in the past year.  But if I were uploading, I would still upload to the sites you mention.  I dont consider them low earners as they each get me a payout or better per month.  To me the real wastes of time are Stockfresh, GL Images, Crestock, Pond 5 (for photos ), and any others that rank near or below them on the poll.

« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2016, 22:26 »
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Due to falling sales across the board, I haven't uploaded to any micro sites in the past year.  But if I were uploading, I would still upload to the sites you mention.  I dont consider them low earners as they each get me a payout or better per month.  To me the real wastes of time are Stockfresh, GL Images, Crestock, Pond 5 (for photos ), and any others that rank near or below them on the poll.

Thanks again, I would consider a payout each month definitely worth the effort... you give me hope  ;D

... back to the computer for more uploading, I have a long way to go to 5,000!!


« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2016, 04:26 »
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Due to falling sales across the board, I haven't uploaded to any micro sites in the past year.  But if I were uploading, I would still upload to the sites you mention.  I dont consider them low earners as they each get me a payout or better per month.  To me the real wastes of time are Stockfresh, GL Images, Crestock, Pond 5 (for photos ), and any others that rank near or below them on the poll.
Exactly the same experience as you.  Monthly pay outs from the ones you mentioned and very little from the others.
I still upload to some of the others though.  GL because it's so easy as no need to link MRs, Pond 5 as I can set my own prices but if they reject a perfectly good batch again then I will stop uploading, and Stockfresh because I think Peter is a good guy.

SergeStudio

« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2016, 05:36 »
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[Sorry, automatic translation]

The minimum payment & Speeds

When we do starts and a first assessment, it seems to me that we must consider the number of first sales and minimum payment.

When DT requires a payment for $ 100 and there are two sales in one quarter (0.70) to 250 frames I tell myself that my images are not suitable for DT. So exit DT. (Plus it is difficult for validation ...)

PantherMedia merely 30 but for now 0 sales and 75 images waiting for a few weeks. Have faith ?

I also deleted CS. Sale almost 0.

Time
I downloaded the test a few photos from iS about December 15
I did not have an answer 4 weeks later
I started to download but validation is not very fast

But it starts to give as iS passed by FL (amount and number of sales). Only at subcontractors for now (Think ...).

The ideal would be to compare with 1 month to month and FL-2 delay for iS.

Salvation and prosperity

Serge

« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2016, 21:33 »
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Do whatever you think is best for you, and ignore what the polls say. My #2 earner isn't even on the list. You need to figure out what works for you and the type of work that you do. One person's "low earner" is another person's "top tier".

« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2016, 03:12 »
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Does MostPhotos belong to the low earners? What are they all about? Are they similar to 500px ? Is 500px selling anything at all?

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« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2016, 03:24 »
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Does MostPhotos belong to the low earners? What are they all about? Are they similar to 500px ? Is 500px selling anything at all?

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Most Photos are unusual in that they don't inspect so if you have stuff you think will sell that the agencies don't like might be worth a shot.

« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2016, 06:15 »
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Is anybody earning money from selling on 500px?

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« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2016, 06:38 »
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Is anybody earning money from selling on 500px?

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A lot of people left after they lower the commission from 70% to 30%. Sales for me were rare

« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2016, 15:54 »
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Does MostPhotos belong to the low earners? What are they all about? Are they similar to 500px ? Is 500px selling anything at all?

 

I dropped Most recently -- 1-3 sales per month, totaling < $1 with 10K images

sent about 5K to 500px but sales after > 6 mo

these images are on other sites and produce sales


 

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