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dirkr

Nice portfolio. You know where to get your inspiration from.

luissantos84

sorry dirkr but if you want to go that way I can tell you like 10 contributors doing that also so why not one more?.. if I read well that´s just stock, there isn´t no limit regarding inspiration!

keep up the good work Air

BaldricksTrousers

Yeah, all the top contributors are soooo original, with rows of female-led suited teenagers doing business handshakes over a jumping goldfish ..... ;=)

Sean Locke Photography

Quote from: dirkr on January 24, 2011, 16:04
Nice portfolio. You know where to get your inspiration from.

Yeah, you may want to expand your inspiration repetiire with some other artists too...

massman


R1

I'm a bit confused... Am I in a court?

luissantos84

Quote from: Air0ne on January 24, 2011, 17:06
I'm a bit confused... Am I in a court?

no you aren´t.. this is microstockgroup :)

gostwyck

Quote from: Air0ne on January 24, 2011, 17:06
I'm a bit confused... Am I in a court?

You probably should be. Or detained in a home for the criminally unoriginal.

luissantos84

Quote from: gostwyck on January 24, 2011, 17:16
Quote from: Air0ne on January 24, 2011, 17:06
I'm a bit confused... Am I in a court?

You probably should be. Or detained in a home for the criminally unoriginal.

and maybe another 10k contributors right?

R1

I will be curious to see with what kind of pictures you all started...

I'm just a bit disappointed to see how it works here  :(

luissantos84

Quote from: Air0ne on January 24, 2011, 17:22
I will be curious to see with what kind of pictures you all started...

I'm just a bit disappointed to see how it works here  :(

don´t be.. you are on right track, just like "laflor" you have seen what have sales etc and you are doing it pretty well, stock isn´t art like ALL TOP guys say!

SNP

Quote from: Air0ne on January 24, 2011, 17:06
I'm a bit confused... Am I in a court?

sorry, but you invited a microscope and your work is strikingly identical to another prolific contributor's images. there's a line between inspiration and copying. sure, we all want to make money and there is a finite number of salable concepts....but you've basically just ripped off a best selling artist's work. you're not going to get much sympathy or help in a forum populated by microstock peers. maybe post your images in a traditional stock forum..they'd be happy to see a microstock contributor being cannibalized.

gostwyck

Quote from: Air0ne on January 24, 2011, 17:22
I will be curious to see with what kind of pictures you all started...

I'm just a bit disappointed to see how it works here  :(

You asked the question "Is it good?". Well most of us here, being original artists, clearly don't think that blatant plagiarism is "good". Personally I think it is pretty pathetic. The main reason I don't have a link to my port from here is to stop people like you copying the work that I earn my living from.

luissantos84

Quote from: SNP on January 24, 2011, 17:38
Quote from: Air0ne on January 24, 2011, 17:06
I'm a bit confused... Am I in a court?

sorry, but you invited a microscope and your work is strikingly identical to another prolific contributor's images. there's a line between inspiration and copying. sure, we all want to make money and there is a finite number of salable concepts....but you've basically just ripped off a best selling artist's work. you're not going to get much sympathy or help in a forum populated by microstock peers. maybe post your images in a traditional stock forum..they'd be happy to see a microstock contributor being cannibalized.

Where is the limit of "copying"? (I am talking legally not pride or other..)

I can add that if this will ever stop it will be from agencies not from contributors we don´t own nothing and never will

SNP

Luis, with all due respect, if you have to ask....that's a problem. you know if you do it, and others know if you do it. in this example it's blatant IMO.

luissantos84

Quote from: SNP on January 24, 2011, 17:54
Luis, with all due respect, if you have to ask....that's a problem. you know if you do it, and others know if you do it. in this example it's blatant IMO.

that´s the exact answer I would want to hear, finally!

I agree 100%.. why agencies keep approving?

loop

I agree... that looks... a bit too much. A pity.

gostwyck

The legality might be questionable (or unenforceable) but the ethics are not. It's bad enough to be so blatant ... but then to also request 'congratulations' is simply breathtaking.

If I ran an agency and someone did what the OP has done, if the original artist brought it to my attention, then I would simply close the account of the copier. I believe the agencies do have a responsibility to protect their original artists. I think Ioannis should be informed.

Magnum

Why not make a "golden" serie as well...

luissantos84

Quote from: gostwyck on January 24, 2011, 18:06
The legality might be questionable (or unenforceable) but the ethics are not. It's bad enough to be so blatant ... but then to also request 'congratulations' is simply breathtaking.

If I ran an agency and someone did what the OP has done, if the original artist brought it to my attention, then I would simply close the account of the copier. I believe the agencies do have a responsibility to protect their original artists. I think Ioannis should be informed.

nothing against.. but come on.. look at Andres latest work.. :)

R1

Woowww... so fast to judge...

I tried different things before doing what I'm doing... For sure, I have been inspired by the guy you mentioned, but he is not alone doing white 3d characters... Even if each time, I tried to be better than others... it seems to be a crime for you guys.

You are all well established at the top... but we don't have to right to shake the tree a little?

I will not insult anyone here as most of you did...

SNP

Quote from: luissantos84 on January 24, 2011, 18:00
Quote from: SNP on January 24, 2011, 17:54
Luis, with all due respect, if you have to ask....that's a problem. you know if you do it, and others know if you do it. in this example it's blatant IMO.

that´s the exact answer I would want to hear, finally!

I agree 100%.. why agencies keep approving?

they keep approving A: because inspectors can't be expected to know every image in the databases....B: because even if the images are copied and do squeak through, the agency makes money anyways because it'll sell if it's good enough.

C: there are always going to be unscrupulous people who want to fastest route to making money

luissantos84

Quote from: SNP on January 24, 2011, 18:19
Quote from: luissantos84 on January 24, 2011, 18:00
Quote from: SNP on January 24, 2011, 17:54
Luis, with all due respect, if you have to ask....that's a problem. you know if you do it, and others know if you do it. in this example it's blatant IMO.

that´s the exact answer I would want to hear, finally!

I agree 100%.. why agencies keep approving?

they keep approving A: because inspectors can't be expected to know every image in the databases....B: because even if the images are copied and do squeak through, the agency makes money anyways because it'll sell if it's good enough.

C: there are always going to be unscrupulous people who want to fastest route to making money

As we know AGENCIES do what they want, remove, cut, etc.. why don´t a reviewer know this kind of work? they are SO FAMOUS!

Agencies are the ones who are screwing stock, not contributors.. it will never end until they do their work properly, they are just looking into their pockets, not even protecting contributors.. money money money

ShadySue

Quote from: luissantos84 on January 24, 2011, 18:25
why don´t a reviewer know this kind of work? they are SO FAMOUS!
To be honest, I wondered this myself. Even though I don't do 3D and don't really look at it, I could see that these were unoriginal. But I also know that many people do similar work.