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Title: How is PressFoto ?
Post by: alexandersr on October 28, 2020, 14:53
Hi, someone has ports in PressFoto, i only know this.

PressFoto is a Russian stock image agency

We sell royalty free images, vector graphics and video footages which you can use in literally any project imaginable. We license content for marketing campaigns, for commercial and non-commercial usage, for goods packaging, interior design and of course for websites illustration. Our library consists of millions of files many of which are unique and available only on our website.
Title: Re: How is PressFoto ?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 28, 2020, 19:17
I can't help you with information about sales there - I'd never heard of them before your post.

I did go and look at the site though, and for me, the biggest no-go is that they don't read metadata from uploaded files - you have to provide it in a separate file or enter it on the site.

https://submit.pressfoto.com/documents.html?doc=meta (https://submit.pressfoto.com/documents.html?doc=meta)

Another big missing piece is what they actually pay. Front page says "up to" 50% and the ranks page has a useless table with how much each rank is paid in USD (40¢ to 70¢) but without knowing prices, who knows what that means

https://submit.pressfoto.com/documents.html?doc=ranks (https://submit.pressfoto.com/documents.html?doc=ranks)

The contributor agreement says 50% of net revenue goes to the contributor for on demand sales (i.e. PressFoto deducts any currency or other fees first before doing the split) and for subscriptions, it's a share of the pool of revenue. Does not mention a minimum (unless that's what the ranks table is trying to say)

https://www.pressfoto.com/pricing (https://www.pressfoto.com/pricing)

I'm guessing if they were selling well we'd have heard something here.

Monkey Business Images, Pressmaster, and Wavebreak Media (though Zoonar) are there, for what that's worth., but they seem to be everywhere :)

On an unrelated note, they have 22,000 free files on Freepik

https://www.freepik.com/pressfoto (https://www.freepik.com/pressfoto)

I think the contributor has the choice about whether to offer free files (but I can't imagine why one site would help another site build traffic via freebies - how does that help PressFoto?)
Title: Re: How is PressFoto ?
Post by: alexandersr on October 28, 2020, 19:30
I can't help you with information about sales there - I'd never heard of them before your post.

I did go and look at the site though, and for me, the biggest no-go is that they don't read metadata from uploaded files - you have to provide it in a separate file or enter it on the site.

https://submit.pressfoto.com/documents.html?doc=meta (https://submit.pressfoto.com/documents.html?doc=meta)

Another big missing piece is what they actually pay. Front page says "up to" 50% and the ranks page has a useless table with how much each rank is paid in USD (40¢ to 70¢) but without knowing prices, who knows what that means

https://submit.pressfoto.com/documents.html?doc=ranks (https://submit.pressfoto.com/documents.html?doc=ranks)

The contributor agreement says 50% of net revenue goes to the contributor for on demand sales (i.e. PressFoto deducts any currency or other fees first before doing the split) and for subscriptions, it's a share of the pool of revenue. Does not mention a minimum (unless that's what the ranks table is trying to say)

https://www.pressfoto.com/pricing (https://www.pressfoto.com/pricing)

I'm guessing if they were selling well we'd have heard something here.

Monkey Business Images, Pressmaster, and Wavebreak Media (though Zoonar) are there, for what that's worth., but they seem to be everywhere :)

On an unrelated note, they have 22,000 free files on Freepik

https://www.freepik.com/pressfoto (https://www.freepik.com/pressfoto)

I think the contributor has the choice about whether to offer free files (but I can't imagine why one site would help another site build traffic via freebies - how does that help PressFoto?)
Thank you very much, you are very kind!  :)
Title: Re: How is PressFoto ?
Post by: tpack on October 28, 2020, 23:03
No one in their right mind would use Russian agency for their portfolio.
Title: Re: How is PressFoto ?
Post by: alexandersr on October 30, 2020, 11:37
No one in their right mind would use Russian agency for their portfolio.
Well Shutterstock is an American company and they are scam company!
If you don't believe me check this out! https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all (https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all)
Title: Re: How is PressFoto ?
Post by: Uncle Pete on October 31, 2020, 09:01
No one in their right mind would use Russian agency for their portfolio.
Well Shutterstock is an American company and they are scam company!
If you don't believe me check this out! https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all (https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all)

Except there's no reason to trust trustpilot who makes money from manipulating the reviews. But you want to join an agency that gives this result? "Sorry, we couldn't find "pressfoto"" LOL

Images by subscription from $0.26 and on-demand from $1.00 And as Jo Ann mentioned, thousands of FREE images on Freepik. You want to support someone that encourages free pictures and free downloads and hides what they will actually pay you, if you should sell something for 26¢ Not for me.

Title: Re: How is PressFoto ?
Post by: alexandersr on October 31, 2020, 17:28
No one in their right mind would use Russian agency for their portfolio.
Well Shutterstock is an American company and they are scam company!
If you don't believe me check this out! https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all (https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all)

Except there's no reason to trust trustpilot who makes money from manipulating the reviews. But you want to join an agency that gives this result? "Sorry, we couldn't find "pressfoto"" LOL

Images by subscription from $0.26 and on-demand from $1.00 And as Jo Ann mentioned, thousands of FREE images on Freepik. You want to support someone that encourages free pictures and free downloads and hides what they will actually pay you, if you should sell something for 26¢ Not for me.

With Jo Ann warning to me, and i have some doubts about Pressphoto, for that reason i asked to someone here. I will not enroll in Pressfoto. I told to tpack that a company for being Russian it is not necessary a scam company. But Pressfoto looks like a scam company. Peace! 8)
Title: Re: How is PressFoto ?
Post by: Uncle Pete on November 01, 2020, 10:49
No one in their right mind would use Russian agency for their portfolio.
Well Shutterstock is an American company and they are scam company!
If you don't believe me check this out! https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all (https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all)

Except there's no reason to trust trustpilot who makes money from manipulating the reviews. But you want to join an agency that gives this result? "Sorry, we couldn't find "pressfoto"" LOL

Images by subscription from $0.26 and on-demand from $1.00 And as Jo Ann mentioned, thousands of FREE images on Freepik. You want to support someone that encourages free pictures and free downloads and hides what they will actually pay you, if you should sell something for 26¢ Not for me.

With Jo Ann warning to me, and i have some doubts about Pressphoto, for that reason i asked to someone here. I will not enroll in Pressfoto. I told to tpack that a company for being Russian it is not necessary a scam company. But Pressfoto looks like a scam company. Peace! 8)

Yeah, good points. Let me say, just to make things easy, I don't think any new company is worth the time or effort, until they have proven they are. I went through the early years of this and that agency, we're new, we promise you... and not one ever turned out anything close to the hype. Some people may have done better, but after being a member of at least 20 agencies, I decided to high point market and only work for the proven value places.

At this point, personally, even Bigstock, 123, Canstock, DP, DT and many more, just aren't worth the time. Maybe if I was high volume and cared about small places making a small return? Even worse choices that I belonged to and left, Panther, FOAP ,Mostphoto, Lucky Oliver, and some others that have come and gone? Total waste of time.

I don't want to be that hard on FeaturePics, there's someone who tries and is fair. Just not enough earnings to be interesting to continue.

Then after all that, there's a nice longer list of places that I said, I'll wait and see, and they turned out to be nothing but "just another cheap agency" Graphic Leftovers, Yay, 500px, crestock, anyone look at Mostphoto lately?

Short and simple, don't look for something new. Work on what's working now. The industry is contracting, not expanding. We'll see more and more of these startups, going under.
Title: Re: How is PressFoto ?
Post by: alexandersr on November 01, 2020, 17:22
No one in their right mind would use Russian agency for their portfolio.
Well Shutterstock is an American company and they are scam company!
If you don't believe me check this out! https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all (https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all)

Except there's no reason to trust trustpilot who makes money from manipulating the reviews. But you want to join an agency that gives this result? "Sorry, we couldn't find "pressfoto"" LOL

Images by subscription from $0.26 and on-demand from $1.00 And as Jo Ann mentioned, thousands of FREE images on Freepik. You want to support someone that encourages free pictures and free downloads and hides what they will actually pay you, if you should sell something for 26¢ Not for me.

With Jo Ann warning to me, and i have some doubts about Pressphoto, for that reason i asked to someone here. I will not enroll in Pressfoto. I told to tpack that a company for being Russian it is not necessary a scam company. But Pressfoto looks like a scam company. Peace! 8)

Yeah, good points. Let me say, just to make things easy, I don't think any new company is worth the time or effort, until they have proven they are. I went through the early years of this and that agency, we're new, we promise you... and not one ever turned out anything close to the hype. Some people may have done better, but after being a member of at least 20 agencies, I decided to high point market and only work for the proven value places.

At this point, personally, even Bigstock, 123, Canstock, DP, DT and many more, just aren't worth the time. Maybe if I was high volume and cared about small places making a small return? Even worse choices that I belonged to and left, Panther, FOAP ,Mostphoto, Lucky Oliver, and some others that have come and gone? Total waste of time.

I don't want to be that hard on FeaturePics, there's someone who tries and is fair. Just not enough earnings to be interesting to continue.

Then after all that, there's a nice longer list of places that I said, I'll wait and see, and they turned out to be nothing but "just another cheap agency" Graphic Leftovers, Yay, 500px, crestock, anyone look at Mostphoto lately?

Short and simple, don't look for something new. Work on what's working now. The industry is contracting, not expanding. We'll see more and more of these startups, going under.
Thanks!
Title: Re: How is PressFoto ?
Post by: Uncle Pete on November 03, 2020, 08:12
No one in their right mind would use Russian agency for their portfolio.
Well Shutterstock is an American company and they are scam company!
If you don't believe me check this out! https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all (https://es.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com?languages=all)

Except there's no reason to trust trustpilot who makes money from manipulating the reviews. But you want to join an agency that gives this result? "Sorry, we couldn't find "pressfoto"" LOL

Images by subscription from $0.26 and on-demand from $1.00 And as Jo Ann mentioned, thousands of FREE images on Freepik. You want to support someone that encourages free pictures and free downloads and hides what they will actually pay you, if you should sell something for 26¢ Not for me.

With Jo Ann warning to me, and i have some doubts about Pressphoto, for that reason i asked to someone here. I will not enroll in Pressfoto. I told to tpack that a company for being Russian it is not necessary a scam company. But Pressfoto looks like a scam company. Peace! 8)

Yeah, good points. Let me say, just to make things easy, I don't think any new company is worth the time or effort, until they have proven they are. I went through the early years of this and that agency, we're new, we promise you... and not one ever turned out anything close to the hype. Some people may have done better, but after being a member of at least 20 agencies, I decided to high point market and only work for the proven value places.

At this point, personally, even Bigstock, 123, Canstock, DP, DT and many more, just aren't worth the time. Maybe if I was high volume and cared about small places making a small return? Even worse choices that I belonged to and left, Panther, FOAP ,Mostphoto, Lucky Oliver, and some others that have come and gone? Total waste of time.

I don't want to be that hard on FeaturePics, there's someone who tries and is fair. Just not enough earnings to be interesting to continue.

Then after all that, there's a nice longer list of places that I said, I'll wait and see, and they turned out to be nothing but "just another cheap agency" Graphic Leftovers, Yay, 500px, crestock, anyone look at Mostphoto lately?

Short and simple, don't look for something new. Work on what's working now. The industry is contracting, not expanding. We'll see more and more of these startups, going under.
Thanks!

You're Welcome, reminder the usual warning label applies. OPINION   :)

Based on my personal observations. Not law or absolute fact. There are some people who still work the smaller agencies and still make some reasonable returns. But they have really good, high quality and high quantity, top level images and video. I think the average person, new people, those searching for alternatives, don't have the same collections. Or maybe I'm just looking at what I do?

Short version of what I do is this. I work where the money is, the easy marketing, and ignore the places that take a lot of effort for little return. If I had more "good" images and higher quality, maybe Stock Submitter would work. In which case, instead of basically two agencies, I'd have 25.

Example of my latest upload, one image for the day. This is why I'm not high quality or volume and just earning from Microstock as a hobby.

(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/mineral-pyrite-iron-known-fools-600w-1846031872.jpg)

One and done, that won't make me rich. Iron Pyrite that was sitting on the hutch shelf.