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Title: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 07, 2013, 19:00
I am  grateful for nay suggestions as to how I may overcome the following critique in SS. Thanks.




Focus--Image is not in focus or the focal point is not appropriate for the composition.
Overuse--Image has excessive noise reduction and/or excessive sharpening effects applied.
Poor Lighting--Image has exposure issues and/or incorrect white balance.
Composition--Image is poorly composed and/or poorly cropped.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 07, 2013, 19:08
Focus--Image is not in focus or the focal point is not appropriate for the composition.
Overuse--Image has excessive noise reduction and/or excessive sharpening effects applied.
Composition--Image is poorly composed and/or poorly cropped.
Another panorama with above critique from SS.
How I may improve will be appreciated. PS- picture is as shot apart from panorama stitch.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: fritz on December 07, 2013, 19:16
First and most important ask yourself who and why would  buy your duck. There are 45,857 results on SS and the answer on your question is there. Compare your duck with others!

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&search_source=search_form&search_tracking_id=9lOcXITvG9gaxXUGkxN0qQ&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&searchterm=duck&photos=on&search_group=&orient=&search_cat=&searchtermx=&photographer_name=&people_gender=&people_age=&people_ethnicity=&people_number=&commercial_ok=&color=&show_color_wheel=1 (http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&search_source=search_form&search_tracking_id=9lOcXITvG9gaxXUGkxN0qQ&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&searchterm=duck&photos=on&search_group=&orient=&search_cat=&searchtermx=&photographer_name=&people_gender=&people_age=&people_ethnicity=&people_number=&commercial_ok=&color=&show_color_wheel=1)
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 07, 2013, 19:18
Another pic  with critique from SS.
PS-Image was shot in raw and minimal changes applied.

Poor Lighting--Image has exposure issues and/or incorrect white balance.
Focus--Image is not in focus or the focal point is not appropriate for the composition.
Composition--Image is poorly composed and/or poorly cropped.

How may I fix it? Thanks.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: tickstock on December 07, 2013, 19:19
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Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 07, 2013, 19:31
Shot with Canon EOS 600D lens 55-250mm in RAW. Minimal processing.     I  have sold many images of melaleuca trees.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: jatrax on December 07, 2013, 19:49
Sky is full of noise and the image looks over-sharpened, almost crispy.  Hard to tell much from the small image but the noise easy to see.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: pancaketom on December 07, 2013, 21:44
assuming there is actually something wrong with the images and you haven't been hit by Atilla the reviewer, you might want to investigate camera settings and the automatic settings for bringing them into PS - often there is some default sharpening and possibly color saturation settings that you might want to dial back.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 07, 2013, 21:49
yep Attilla has been saying the same things for virtually everything submitted lately.I will just have to keep on tying and hope I get another reviewer as I am getting pretty fed up last few weeks .
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: JPSDK on December 07, 2013, 23:34
All 3 images are simply of far too low quality.
The duck has so much noise that a lot of details are lost.
The landscape is meaningless. There is no composition.
The tree... composition again. The whole tree, and nothing but the whole tree.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 08, 2013, 03:45
Thanks for the comments everyone.The landscape in Yallingup is devoid of trees owing to westerly wind gales. Yet re duck last week had 3 collages of ducks accepted. Just a bit confused as some days images  accepted other days similar ones fail. Will have to be more creative and adventurous.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: Beppe Grillo on December 08, 2013, 09:30
The fact is that on Shutterstock the reviews are sometime right (most of the time) sometime wrong…
But very often inconsistent…

BTW your photos, even seen in little size, looks very noisy, and I just can imagine what will see the inspector @100%
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 08, 2013, 18:58
I enlarge every image to 100% before submitting and have a new  wide screen monitor. There is not much more I can do but must soldier on if I want to reach my $500 sales target in first year.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: JPSDK on December 08, 2013, 19:42
Have you looked at the duck in 100%
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 09, 2013, 08:55
Of course as I said I enlarge every image to 100% BEFORE submitting.If it is not sharp clear and detailed I do not submit.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: tickstock on December 09, 2013, 09:04
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Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: JPSDK on December 09, 2013, 14:19
Of course as I said I enlarge every image to 100% BEFORE submitting.If it is not sharp clear and detailed I do not submit.


Then you have problems seeing noise. And it is something you will have to learn to see.

The duck image is totally disturbed by HEAVY noise, I can only imagine how it would look in 100%.
See this, which is not a perfect picture, there is noise and DOF is not wide enough:
(http://www.fotostart.dk/usergallery/fullsize/7901-20131209201756.jpg)
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 09, 2013, 23:47
ISO = 100. Is that too high? I thought that was ok?
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: JPSDK on December 10, 2013, 02:37
Iso 100 is fine! When exposure is correct. The above duck is done with iso 400, on a nikon d 200, which is why the photo only holds water in a small size.

Was your duck done with iso 100? And what size of a crop is it?
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 10, 2013, 02:50
My duck was done with 100 ISO and NO CROP at all. Canon EOS 600D with 55-250mm lens.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: ACS on December 10, 2013, 03:24
My duck was done with 100 ISO and NO CROP at all. Canon EOS 600D with 55-250mm lens.

It looks like as if it was taken at iso 3200. Very noisy even at thumbnail size.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: stocked on December 10, 2013, 05:58
Time for a new agency: Shutterduck ! ;)
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: JPSDK on December 10, 2013, 10:46
My duck was done with 100 ISO and NO CROP at all. Canon EOS 600D with 55-250mm lens.

Are you sure? What settings do you have?

Else there must be something elsae wrong, like it was very underexposed and you have lifted it much.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 10, 2013, 19:13
Virtually no post photo processing shot in raw. I am still learning about raw but am very loathe to change settings much. Just a tad where needed like colour or light etc. Isn't the histogram supposed to be a curve upwards??
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: hellonxf on December 10, 2013, 23:35
I think this photo is very common. I think at first you can learn the composition from others and later shooting situation, color...
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: JPSDK on December 11, 2013, 04:48
Virtually no post photo processing shot in raw. I am still learning about raw but am very loathe to change settings much. Just a tad where needed like colour or light etc. Isn't the histogram supposed to be a curve upwards??

There is something wrong here. Either your screen, your camera settings or the raw processing method.
It looks like a high iso shot.
What is shutterspeed and aperture in that photo?
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: aly on December 11, 2013, 23:47
It seems I have mis read the ISO=1000, speed =1/2000, f/5.6, distance 5.5 metres, 250mm focal length.
I am using 55-250 canon lens zoomed up a little to get this duck. The more you zoom the worse the noise, etc. Will have to stick with 18-55mm lens as no problems  like this.
Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: tickstock on December 11, 2013, 23:50
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Title: Re: Queries on many aspects
Post by: JPSDK on December 12, 2013, 02:18
It seems I have mis read the ISO=1000, speed =1/2000, f/5.6, distance 5.5 metres, 250mm focal length.
I am using 55-250 canon lens zoomed up a little to get this duck. The more you zoom the worse the noise, etc. Will have to stick with 18-55mm lens as no problems  like this.

That exactly sounds like you are going on auto iso.

So now you know what was wrong, and why you got the noise. High iso, simply.