videohive.net u can set u r own prices, i am selling more animations then shutterstock,adobestock or pond5

Videohive is a joke. $11 (or less) for a 3D render? Yeah right, one week of rendering and you can earn pennies? No way, I'll stay with Adobe.

I'm working in Cinema 4D. Rendering time with Octane render is a bit faster than directly in C4D, but it takes around 10 minutes for one frame in FullHD. 4K takes a lot more time. I have Intel i7-7700, 16 GB RAM, GTX 1070.

Quote from: komikmiha on April 22, 2020, 13:20

Videohive is a joke. $11 (or less) for a 3D render? Yeah right, one week of rendering and you can earn pennies? No way, I'll stay with Adobe.

with Blender Eeevee or Element3D, render time is always under one hour, if we talk about 3d abstract or conceptual renders.
With Cycles (if you nees realism), about a couple of hours or a bit more.
15/30 seconds 4K, on a 16 cores i9 cpu, rtx 4000 quadro laptop.
I think that a week is a bit too much!
What engine are you using? and what are your pc specs?

MotionDesign, as an advice for you never use a laptop for rendering you will burn it soon and with the new laptop models all the components are incorporated in the motherboard... you will throw it to the trash, you can't fix it anymore.
That's what happened to me and the repair costs exceeded the price of a new laptop. ALWAYS use a desktop PC and not a very expensive one, but more 3 or 4 and use them as team render machines, you will see a big difference in rendering times.
Good luck

I'm working in Cinema 4D. Rendering time with Octane render is a bit faster than directly in C4D, but it takes around 10 minutes for one frame in FullHD. 4K takes a lot more time. I have Intel i7-7700, 16 GB RAM, GTX 1070.

Ah ok, maybe your scenes are way more complex than mine.

I'm working in Cinema 4D. Rendering time with Octane render is a bit faster than directly in C4D, but it takes around 10 minutes for one frame in FullHD. 4K takes a lot more time. I have Intel i7-7700, 16 GB RAM, GTX 1070.

I've been using C4D for donkeys years. I moved to it after my 3D Max training in 2001. I've always been a moderate modeller/animator,nothing professional.
I've never used Octane or Redshift ever. Been thinking about it for years. IS Octane the one you can rent monthly? What's it like? Worth the money?

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on April 22, 2020, 19:45

Quote from: komikmiha on April 22, 2020, 13:20

Videohive is a joke. $11 (or less) for a 3D render? Yeah right, one week of rendering and you can earn pennies? No way, I'll stay with Adobe.

Then don't sell them at $11 then, sell them at the same as Adobe... or more. And even if you were to sell them at $11, you'd probably make it up in volume. I make more on VideoHive than any other agency, even with lower prices. While it's nice to get a high royalty per download... I'm much less concerned with how much I earn per download, than I am how much I have in my bank at the end of the month.

As I said, I will NOT sell for pennies and that is called principles. I'm not one of those who help with all this dumping thing. So, if your goal is to sell your clips some day for $1 you can do it, but I wont.

Komikmiha, calm down man as i've already told u.... u can sell animations there setting u r own prices from 0-1000$.
I don't understand your upset 

Quote from: komikmiha on April 22, 2020, 13:20

Videohive is a joke. $11 (or less) for a 3D render? Yeah right, one week of rendering and you can earn pennies? No way, I'll stay with Adobe.

Then don't sell them at $11 then, sell them at the same as Adobe... or more. And even if you were to sell them at $11, you'd probably make it up in volume. I make more on VideoHive than any other agency, even with lower prices. While it's nice to get a high royalty per download... I'm much less concerned with how much I earn per download, than I am how much I have in my bank at the end of the month.

Here,you can easily understand where the race to the bottom begin...

Principles don't pay the bills unfortunately.

Quote from: Cider Apple on April 23, 2020, 02:49

Quote from: komikmiha on April 22, 2020, 16:20

I'm working in Cinema 4D. Rendering time with Octane render is a bit faster than directly in C4D, but it takes around 10 minutes for one frame in FullHD. 4K takes a lot more time. I have Intel i7-7700, 16 GB RAM, GTX 1070.

I've been using C4D for donkeys years. I moved to it after my 3D Max training in 2001. I've always been a moderate modeller/animator,nothing professional.
I've never used Octane or Redshift ever. Been thinking about it for years. IS Octane the one you can rent monthly? What's it like? Worth the money?

Cider Apple, Octane worth all the money, simply... THE BEST rendering engine and easy to use, easy to create materials...etc Redshift also a good one but slower in my opinion.I am using both of them.

Agree, it is worth the money and a lot faster than Redshift.

Quote from: Cider Apple on April 23, 2020, 02:49

Quote from: komikmiha on April 22, 2020, 16:20

I'm working in Cinema 4D. Rendering time with Octane render is a bit faster than directly in C4D, but it takes around 10 minutes for one frame in FullHD. 4K takes a lot more time. I have Intel i7-7700, 16 GB RAM, GTX 1070.

I've been using C4D for donkeys years. I moved to it after my 3D Max training in 2001. I've always been a moderate modeller/animator,nothing professional.
I've never used Octane or Redshift ever. Been thinking about it for years. IS Octane the one you can rent monthly? What's it like? Worth the money?

Cider Apple, Octane worth all the money, simply... THE BEST rendering engine and easy to use, easy to create materials...etc Redshift also a good one but slower in my opinion.I am using both of them.

Thanks, I'm going to try the demo today. The monthly subscription I was thinking about was Arnold. Might try that too?

Quote from: PinHead on April 20, 2020, 01:40

videohive.net u can set u r own prices, i am selling more animations then shutterstock,adobestock or pond5

Do you keep your prices relatively similar to Shutterstock and Adobe's pricing? Or do you sell them for a lot lower? It seems like most stock footage on Videohive is being sold for a lot less.

Dang you were right about videohive. I've been on there less than a week and already made 6 sales with only around 70 videos. Way better than any stock agency, at least for 3d renders.

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Quote from: JohnTravolski on April 21, 2020, 02:27

Quote from: PinHead on April 20, 2020, 01:40

videohive.net u can set u r own prices, i am selling more animations then shutterstock,adobestock or pond5

Do you keep your prices relatively similar to Shutterstock and Adobe's pricing? Or do you sell them for a lot lower? It seems like most stock footage on Videohive is being sold for a lot less.

Dang you were right about videohive. I've been on there less than a week and already made 6 sales with only around 70 videos. Way better than any stock agency, at least for 3d renders.

I am happy for u  ...(as an ex) finished one 2 days ago and today bang 83 $, nice.

What prices do you usually target on Videohive (1080p and/or 4K)?

I have a question, i'm new user in Cinema 4D, Could i use free textures for my models and sell the renders of models on microstock? Sorry for my bad english. I speak spanish.

Quote from: alexandersr on September 28, 2020, 10:32

I have a question, i'm new user in Cinema 4D, Could i use free textures for my models and sell the renders of models on microstock? Sorry for my bad english. I speak spanish.

Hi Alexander,
i think that you must own the copyright of all elements you use in your renders (3d models and textures).
Maybe there are websites that allow you to use the textures for microstock, but i'm not sure about this.
Personally i use only textures created by me (procedurally or from my shots).
If you use C4D i think that's fine to use the texture library that come with the software.

Thanks!
I create my own models, and use textures from C4D.

Quote from: MotionDesign on September 28, 2020, 12:26

i think that you must own the copyright of all elements you use in your renders (3d models and textures).
Maybe there are websites that allow you to use the textures for microstock, but i'm not sure about this.
Personally i use only textures created by me (procedurally or from my shots).
If you use C4D i think that's fine to use the texture library that come with the software.

Can you provide the law where that is written? i am kind of curious. The way you put it, it seems that people cannot even take a shoot of an ikea chair (which have design)  or any other object in the world. I don't see people in movies own the copyright of all objects like sofas tv and so on that they buy for the film clip shoot. And i see a LOT of this objects being used in microstock clips.
Furthermore I can advance that there is no such thing in EU law that i am aware of it.

It's usually less about 'the law' and more about the terms of the sites in question... plus copyright law. i.e there's not really any law that says you can't do 'x' when it comes to your use of a texture/model, but there are license terms, and doing something with the item that isn't allowed means you've breached the terms of the license, so you don't have the right to use it. If you don't have the right to use something, it's then an issue of copyright law.

For example, the terms of TurboSquid:

You may NOT publish or distribute Creations of Imagery through another stock media clearinghouse, for example as part of an online marketplace for photography, clip art, or design templates.

So unless you've created your models and textures from scratch, you need to check the terms of service to see what is and what isn't allowed.

That's for models and textures... when it comes to household objects, products, logos etc, they're usually all covered by some form of copyright protection, and what's allowed will vary considerably on the item in question, how prominently it features in the shot, end usage etc etc... plus how stringently the stock site wants to apply those rules when accepting content.   

 

Can you provide the law where that is written? i am kind of curious. The way you put it, it seems that people cannot even take a shoot of an ikea chair (which have design)  or any other object in the world. I don't see people in movies own the copyright of all objects like sofas tv and so on that they buy for the film clip shoot. And i see a LOT of this objects being used in microstock clips.
Furthermore I can advance that there is no such thing in EU law that i am aware of it.

Hi
SpacestockFootage has explained well what i meant.
I'haven't the law but if i remember correctly i've read it in the terms of Shutterstock

hi, thks spacestockf, motion and sean for explaining it.
About tbsquid and selling 3d models does it wort it? 
Selling stock footage it is already a headache to me so I never tried to sell my models.
i always though it was a little bit of wasting time. probably i'm wrong. 

Imagery from NASA is public domain, although they do request that you add a disclaimer along the lines of 'contains imagery furnished by NASA' when using their content. Also, anything that contains logos or recognizable people can't be used commercially.

I remember listening to a podcast back in the day, and the head of media (or some similar title) at NASA was being interviewed... and he was specifically asked if people could sell NASA content as stock footage and stock images, and he said that it's absolutely fine.

It's still up to the agencies whether they accept it or not but most do as far as I'm aware.